Rumor out on FL staff offering recruit money
I was just over at the Buckeye site Eleven Warriors. There is something out from an SEC blog about major shenanigans happening at Florida.
LINK: Rumor out that a recruit has a video of the Florida staff offering him money
You can go to the link yourself. It goes against almost everything I've read about bagmen in the SEC. But if true and proveable, these could be death penalty type violations. I'll believe the NCAA actually does something when I see it happen for the first time. Whatever.
My point in posting here is that this could really have an affect on several recruits. The big one, imhe, is Tedarrell Slaton. We have really not had a shot at him. However, if Florida turns toxic, is it possible he could be flipped at this late date? Would we want Herbert back? I don't know, but I've felt all along that OL recruiting was the most important thing for this class.
It has nothing to do with Florida, but I'd dearly love for dirt to come out this weekend on Georgia, bringing Collins (and possibly Wilson . . . pipe dream, but one can hope) up to Michigan instead.
January 27th, 2017 at 5:53 PM ^
Death Penalty
SEC
Pick one
January 27th, 2017 at 5:55 PM ^
Yeah, that's a joke. SMH. I don't think the NCAA will ever bring the death penalty violation against an SEC school. Just don't see it happening. The only reason I'm intrigued is if it opened the door to poach some of their recruits.
January 27th, 2017 at 6:35 PM ^
SEC sacrifice if the NCAA ever decides to get "serious."
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January 27th, 2017 at 7:12 PM ^
It's a serious violation, but not even in the same ballpark as something that would involve a possible death penalty.
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January 28th, 2017 at 4:28 PM ^
the death penalty will ever be imposed again. Penn State happens to be one of the schools immune for consideration of that penalty.
January 27th, 2017 at 5:54 PM ^
well Herbert went to Miami (YTM) so no on that.
January 27th, 2017 at 5:54 PM ^
Herbert is committed to Miami
January 27th, 2017 at 5:56 PM ^
Thank you. Missed that commitment on Herbert.
January 27th, 2017 at 5:56 PM ^
Deeper pockets
January 27th, 2017 at 5:58 PM ^
And other things
January 27th, 2017 at 7:59 PM ^
With all the two stars flipping there, they aren't giving the MAC a chance.
January 27th, 2017 at 5:55 PM ^
Isn't this going to be UF's worst class in a good while?
Mac must be getting a bit desperate down there...
January 27th, 2017 at 6:01 PM ^
...grow some balls and stop this shit.
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OSU turned off by a kid asking for impermissible benefits? I find that incredibly hard to believe.
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I recall an article a few years ago, presented in the same fashion as most articles of this type, with the intention of determining the best unis, helmet, stadium, et. al. This particular article was going to determine the dirtiest programs in the BIG. The findings were OSU was the leader in terms of the most serious violations. However, they were forced, and this is using their words as best I can recall, to determine MSU the dubious winner, simply due to the sheer number of vioolations. So, it is not like is hasn't occurred there prior to Urb's arrival.
Tressel, utilizing tricks he had perfected at the far more obscure location afforded him at YSU, may have been the best at his time while at OSU, and actually might be the responsible party for the now understood and accepted illegal practices of its football program. However, the termination of Tressel, based on NCAA violations, should have resulted in greater scrutiny over its football program, the firing and subsequent hiring of Urban, lead to a more wide spread approach to NCAA violations. Like the premier programs in the SEC, the hiring actually caused greater separation on the part of OSU in terms of accepted practices and experiencing a level of recruiting never before seen at OSU. As is almost always the case at universities who may be somewhat leery in initial implementation of these policies, the degree of success rising to a leval never before experienced, even among some of the most successful programs in the history of the sport, make it easy to accept the practices as an integral part of the program and a genuine reluctance to terminate such activities. Once introduced, these actions will continue to remain a part of the program despite any change in coaching that migth occur.
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January 27th, 2017 at 7:19 PM ^
and whether Florida is going to blame them. A real recruiting war would be coaches of one school using recruits to catch other schools cheating.
January 27th, 2017 at 6:03 PM ^
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January 27th, 2017 at 6:11 PM ^
Yep, there was the strong implication that something shady went down with Isaiah Wilson and Georgia. I thought bigten11 said it was going to come out publicly, and that this wasn't going to go away. That was, in fact, one of the things I was thinking of when I put this up. It would be totally awesome to flip Wilson to Michigan, because dirt came out publicly.
January 27th, 2017 at 7:05 PM ^
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January 27th, 2017 at 6:15 PM ^
It seems there's the always popular "my grandmother bought this car for me" answer for their new $40k ride.
Grandma must be handin' out the dimes like a bitch.
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January 27th, 2017 at 6:05 PM ^
I can't start a thread on my phone, but this article is insane.
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January 27th, 2017 at 6:21 PM ^
Don't consider this a thread jack . . . just more of the nonsense that is going on out there.
Internally, I am wondering about what Michigan does, and how much they participate. Brian has written about how we are hopelessly naive if we think stuff isn't happening here. We all know about what went down with the Fab 5. Really, the same thing, in many ways. Even if there are bagmen at Michigan, though, I'm sure they stay very, very quiet, and avoid anything that is traceable.
If the Florida coaches actually gave money, that's just dumb. And the Baylor allegations are horrible.
The other thing I wonder about is the matter of degree. Again, Brian, iirc, suggests that a stipend is in order. I would agree. The question is how much. Having looked at the rides in the Bama thread, things are just over the top. Years ago, I lived in the same apt building as several guys on the basketball team. I remember a huge black mercedes with tinted windows. But this was in their senior year. I assumed it was paid for with advance money from an agent (after the their final season was done.) Still, it was obvious to me that those wheels were far beyond what a college student could afford . . . or almost all parents of college students.
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January 27th, 2017 at 7:39 PM ^
This will never stop and people ought to just move on.
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January 27th, 2017 at 6:15 PM ^
If there actually is video evidence and the coaches are identifiable, this is exactly what the NCAA needs for them to be able to punish someone. They can really only do something when someone hands them unassailable evidence since they don't have the means to go get the evidence themselves.
January 27th, 2017 at 6:54 PM ^
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January 27th, 2017 at 6:07 PM ^
They had a couple high profile decommits and are on track to finish with a terrible class by their standards. Either the extra cash isn't working, or recruits think shit is about to go down. Or maybe the program just looks bad in general.
January 27th, 2017 at 6:11 PM ^
Or maybe the extra cash/more obvious attempt was them getting desperate after said decommits/terrible class.
January 27th, 2017 at 6:20 PM ^
This is the stuff that gives me the willies. Because, in those rare situations where a program gets nailed for seriously bad stuff, it's never the really great programs that get it. If Florida is flat offering cash to recruits and they're still losing out on top guys... what does that say about the guys who are landing those recruits?
Same deal with the Clemson issue. Someone suggested in a thread in the past week that Clemson is the most corrupt program in football, no doubt because they believe Clemson offered cash to Rashan Gary.
Clemson's highest ranked recruiting class in the past 5 years? Ninth. Several of the classes that were building blocks to the current championship team were ranked in the mid-to-low teens.
If they're dirty... what does that say about all these teams finishing ahead of them?
Michigan was ranked #4 last I checked and finished #5 last year.
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