A Top MSU Commit in Trouble; Reopens Recruitment
http://247sports.com/Bolt/Robertson-not-signing-with-MSU-facing-misdeme…
Auston Robertson (#3 player out of IN, #9 WDE, #101 in the nation) was arrested in January for battery and faces misdeamenor charges. He apparently inappropriately touched a girl at school in October. He was already on thin ice after getting arrested in September for property damage.
Looks like Dantonio was willing to give him a 2nd chance, but the kid seems to have just screwed up again. Don't know about whether the offer is still there or not.
February 4th, 2016 at 2:36 AM ^
Kind of sounds like his MSU offer is gone...
February 4th, 2016 at 2:50 AM ^
Does this kid realize just how much of a fuckup and a criminal you have to be to get an MSU offer pulled?
February 4th, 2016 at 7:43 AM ^
Frank Clark wants to know just what you have to do at Michigan...
February 4th, 2016 at 8:36 AM ^
Troll alert
You do know Clark was dismissed from the team as soon as he got in trouble?
EDIT: This was in response to the troll who posted about Frank Clark, not in response to Tater. The trolling post was subsequently removed, which makes me look like an ass.
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February 4th, 2016 at 10:15 AM ^
Looks like you still got trolled. Luckily you were able to edit response. Rule of thumb, never feed them
February 4th, 2016 at 10:40 AM ^
February 4th, 2016 at 11:44 AM ^
This is one reason I wish the mods would just delete the content of the offending post. Another is so we would no who made the post. I suppose that would also allow people to neg if that is appealing.
February 4th, 2016 at 8:55 AM ^
Where second chances get a second chance.
February 4th, 2016 at 9:48 AM ^
February 4th, 2016 at 10:02 AM ^
Good to be back.
February 4th, 2016 at 10:56 AM ^
Where three strikes and you're out are simply a suggestion.
February 4th, 2016 at 9:16 AM ^
over the last several years finds many more Michigan guys on it than MSU guys.
Nice to see you back on your high horse, Tater. You came running to mgoblog when your mlive predictions five years ago of Izzo's demise and how MSU football would shortly fall off the map were not realized. It must feel real comfortable over here, away from the real world.
Dantonio does the right thing by withholding the offer to see what comes of Robertson. Not surprisingly, on this board that's turned into a negative. But then, Dantonio is seriously in your heads. You really need a win over MSU next year.
February 4th, 2016 at 10:27 AM ^
Dat is some Bull
February 4th, 2016 at 11:44 AM ^
For LIFE, Dawg!!
February 4th, 2016 at 10:38 AM ^
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February 4th, 2016 at 2:37 AM ^
February 4th, 2016 at 2:43 AM ^
RCMB seems to suggest MSU is waiting to hear on whether the charges will stick or be dismissed like the first go around in September.
He had/has quite the offer sheet including Bama, Michigan, OSU, The U, Tenn and ND.
February 4th, 2016 at 7:51 AM ^
February 4th, 2016 at 10:02 AM ^
it will not be IF he is reinstated but WHEN he is reinstated....
February 4th, 2016 at 8:11 AM ^
February 4th, 2016 at 10:32 AM ^
won't let thugs come to Miami and should change the preception of that football program.
February 4th, 2016 at 12:00 PM ^
Has any coach - EVER - taken that job and said "We're just gonna stay the course here and do what worked for Jimmy J and Ol' Larry Coke"?!
That's a pretty ingrained culture there now after over 30 years. I'll believe it changed when the smoke clears and there's no fire!
On the plus side, "The U" showed schools they can just say "F You" to the NCAA and there's not a Damn thing they can do about it... how hard did the penalties from the Navin Shapiro revelations hit that program? OH, right, there were NONE!
February 4th, 2016 at 10:20 AM ^
The Orangeshirt, just invented by MSU: defer his scholarship for 2 years while he serves his sentence, then he starts in 2018
---stole this from someone on the 247 board
February 4th, 2016 at 11:53 AM ^
It's Mannish of you to admit that you lifted it - but you still get the upvotes on Mgoblog!
If that person wants Mgopoints they'll have to come on over and drop their pearls here instead of 247
February 4th, 2016 at 6:24 AM ^
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February 4th, 2016 at 9:35 AM ^
February 4th, 2016 at 7:13 AM ^
February 4th, 2016 at 7:52 AM ^
I find your blase dismissal of "innocent until proven guilty" disturbing. On the one hand, multiple separate accusations do create a natural doubt as to the accused's innocence. On the other hand, there is a reason people fought and died for "innocent until proven guilty," and there is a reason people regret the way the Duke lacrosse players, and very possibly LTT, were treated.
I think these cases need to be judged on an individual basis. They're tricky, no doubt. But I think fans should be more patient and wait to see how accusations turn out before demanding that heads and scholarships roll.
February 4th, 2016 at 8:21 AM ^
February 4th, 2016 at 8:39 AM ^
Innocent until proven guilty has nothing to do with this. The standard for a university and a scholarship should be above whether or not someone is convicted of a crime. Even the Title IX guidelines are above that (see Brendan Gibbons or Logan Tuley-Tillman). I have seen many students expelled from schools for things they were never able to establish in a court of law.
February 4th, 2016 at 8:46 AM ^
I'm not sure anyone really fought or died for the presumption of innocence. But even assuming someone did, that presumption only applies in a criminal prosecution. This message board will not be convicting him and sending him to jail.
February 4th, 2016 at 10:41 AM ^
but judges will say: "better to have 10 guilty people free than on innocent person behind bars."
February 4th, 2016 at 8:54 AM ^
February 4th, 2016 at 9:15 AM ^
Innocent until proven guilty is a product of criminal law intended to prevent innocent people from going to jail. Society determined that it was a reasonable sacrifice to have some guilty escape justice by setting a high bar for conviction that would prevent having innocent people convicted. It has nothing to do with whether higher standards of conduct should be imposed upon people seeking great favor. A free college education is not an entitlement, and it is reasonable - many would argue essential - for colleges to set high standards of personal conduct for its scholarship athletes.
February 4th, 2016 at 9:16 AM ^
Being innocent until proven guilty in a court of law =/= holding a scholarship to play football. The former is a constitutional right to all citizens; the latter is a privilege enjoyed by approximately 0.2% of Michigan students, and the standards expected of those who hold it can be more stringent.
February 4th, 2016 at 9:31 AM ^
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February 4th, 2016 at 10:11 AM ^
I thought they had to be in jail to not to play. "Can you please tape up my ankle bracelet"
February 4th, 2016 at 7:14 AM ^
Go for it. Lead the charge in effusive praise of our rivals. It is SOP for some.
February 4th, 2016 at 9:38 AM ^
February 4th, 2016 at 9:32 AM ^
the Bible on my desk.
February 4th, 2016 at 2:38 AM ^
and so damn glad that Harbaugh would never waste his time with any recruit that lacks charachter.
Those kinda guys can go somewhere else and fuck their lives up doing stupid shit when they have a wonderful opportunity waiting for them.
February 4th, 2016 at 4:30 AM ^
February 4th, 2016 at 8:55 AM ^
According to the police report, Robertson was accused of inappropriately grabbing a female student at Wayne High School on Oct. 22.
Court records also show that Robertson was arrested on Sept. 10 with charges of criminal mischief, damaging or defacing property of another without consent) and resisting law enforcement. A hearing was held the same day and charges were dismissed.
Honestly, this sounds like fairly typical high school boy behavior. I'm not saying it's right, or that he shouldn't face some consequences, but he's not exactly Hitler.
February 4th, 2016 at 11:20 AM ^
Definitely not Hitler, as you put it, but this shit should never be excused as "typical high school boy behavior." That's an antiquated and frankly stupid line of thought that needs to be extinguished as people get smarter as a whole.
February 4th, 2016 at 11:48 AM ^
Exactly.
The boys will be boys narrative is incredibly sexist and damaging to society.
February 4th, 2016 at 2:40 AM ^
February 4th, 2016 at 3:18 AM ^
The end of your post reminds me of the research paper that academic all-Big Ten member Terrelle Pryor wrote on research.
All jokes aside, I am completely with you. Regardless of where he was headed, the saddest thing in the world to see is wasted potential, and potential is one thing that this kid most certainly had. The silver lining in all of this is that his screwup will likely be to the benefit of another athlete who otherwise wouldn't have gotten a scholarship, maybe to a fringe player who they didn't have space for or, more likely, a walk-on who's been working endlessly and has stayed out of trouble for many years doing things the right way, then to another deserving player next year. It's a special thing to be the caliber of athlete that gets to play football at any Big Ten school, and it's a shame that he threw it away with his poor decisions.
Hopefully Robertson can get his act together before his behavior leaves him in prison or worse, and stops harming other people, which is by far the worst part of all of this. Very sad story.