Penalties and Turnovers (Lack of on D)
November 28th, 2015 at 5:31 PM ^
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November 28th, 2015 at 7:00 PM ^
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who dove into the leg of the punter easy call. As to the guy here who said he was watching the review, I have no comment that could help.
November 28th, 2015 at 7:25 PM ^
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November 28th, 2015 at 5:33 PM ^
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November 28th, 2015 at 8:37 PM ^
Turnovers are semi-random but years of failing at making them happen are not. There's a combination of not recruiting athletes with the instincts to go for the pick or strip or forced fumble and coaches not emphasizing that. I'd expect as the years go on and we recruit better athletes with better instincts and coach them up you'll see an uptick in TOs.
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November 28th, 2015 at 5:38 PM ^
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November 28th, 2015 at 5:39 PM ^
I've been saying the same thing for several weeks now. Too many penalties (mental error type) and not forcing turnovers. Very few fumbles forced and very few picks. Those two things kept teams in games all year against us. I don't know if our record would be any different though.
November 28th, 2015 at 10:16 PM ^
2 fumble recoveries.2 as in one plus one. This anamoly has to change.
November 28th, 2015 at 5:48 PM ^
We have been minus our top two nose tackles. Teams were able to exploit this. It will be ok, the future of Michigan football looks bright.
November 28th, 2015 at 7:41 PM ^
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Coach H will have to go shopping for LB transfers or next year could be even worse.
November 28th, 2015 at 8:35 PM ^
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November 28th, 2015 at 9:02 PM ^
But it leads to that because it exposed the LBs which is our weakness. Hsving the deep defensive line allowed UM to dominate the line of scrimmage and keep the LBs clean. Losing so many linemen led to extended snaps which made us less dominant with LBs who are horrid when not allowed to play uncovered. I think if the D-Line gets deeper next year the defense will be fine, but the second the line gets thin it will expose the LBs again next year. I would love to see UM pull in some athletic, smart LBs, because while ultimately the lines determine the line of scrimmage, having excellent LB play can cover a multitude of sins the same way that a deep, dominant d-line can and did for UM.
November 28th, 2015 at 5:48 PM ^
We can't stop that inside run play. MSU could. WE CANT.
I'm not a troll but the difference between last week at Ohio and this week here wasn't even close.
I'm no coach but their RB or QB was in our second level and our LB's were tied up and owned before we knew what hit us. Not a rocket scientist (Space coyote) but I'm gonna put the difference between us and them in our lines. Both sides of the ball. We got owned.
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November 28th, 2015 at 5:57 PM ^
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November 28th, 2015 at 5:52 PM ^
Same thing we do everytime we go after a punt. Rough the punter.
These are still the same conference refs people. Anything iffy gets called.
A comically stupid decision to go for a punt block there when we hadn't attacked punts for weeks.
Also, we never made a single drive stop after that. Well one, if you include when we were down 30 and it was a meaningless drive.
To top it off, we block a meaningless punt - same shit as us converting a joke 2 point conversion in that bowl game debacle against Kansas State.
November 28th, 2015 at 5:55 PM ^
I've never seen a center get so many false starts like Glasgow has.
November 28th, 2015 at 9:13 PM ^
November 29th, 2015 at 4:08 AM ^
He does that same shit every damn week.
November 28th, 2015 at 6:03 PM ^
Only one conclusion
AMTHG
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November 28th, 2015 at 6:33 PM ^
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November 28th, 2015 at 6:53 PM ^
I am with TaiS
INTs are on DBs to make - we have had oppts we drop. I see other teams make those same plays. Some DBs make catches that look like outstanding Wrs - meanwhile we've dropped a few this year that have hit DB hands.
Also fumbles are partly luck (where the ball falls after it leaves the hands) but we dont cause many at all. I mean maybe 3-4x all year where opponent ball hit the ground. So yeah maybe we were 1/4 (recovered v caused) but that denominator has to be a lot bigger. We dont strip or target the ball well - for whatever reason.
Penalties werent an issue until these last 4 games, esp pre snap. No idea what suddenly happened. False start and offsides esp really turned awful late.
November 28th, 2015 at 6:54 PM ^
you hit the nail on the head. It's not so much that UM doesn't recover them, they don't cause any.
November 28th, 2015 at 11:55 PM ^
Brief period from 2011-12 where things were good, but its been bad for a while.
Forced Fumble Stats for Michigan
2015 -- 5 FF (114th nationally)
2014 -- 5 (122)
2013 -- 8 (102)
2012 -- 12 (61)
2011 -- 13 (21)
2010 -- 6 (112)
2009 -- 9 (89)
2008 -- 15 (23)
Subpar talent and bad coaching will do that to you. Gonna take a few more seasons to wash out the Hoke stink.
November 29th, 2015 at 8:22 AM ^
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and still lost. OSU is a far superior team. The reality is Michigan is the third best team in the B1G. MSU is better. They played us with half of their OL out and a defense still thrying to learn pass coverage. But being third best is quite an accomplishment considering what the talent level is.
Average offensive line;
Running backs who run as though their feet are in concrete;
A average transfer QB trying to learn a new system;
An average DL;
Below average LB's
Given what the coaching staff had to work with, it was a very successful season.
November 28th, 2015 at 6:10 PM ^
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not decidely better. I also think OSU is better than MSU. Weather was a huge factor in the MSU win over OSU.
Regarding the defensive line, when you comparte the DL of OSU, MSU and PSU, they are better. Losing a NT should not cause the entire implosion of the defensive line. A quick tempo offensive with a running QB is something that Michigan cannot handle. It is what it is. Hope the bowl opponent uses a pro offensive.
November 28th, 2015 at 6:50 PM ^
We didn't just lose an NT. We lost our top 2 NTs and our top Buck. It's hard to compensate when 3 of your best 5 or 6 DLs are out. They did tempo because we would tire or have to use Strobel et al.
November 29th, 2015 at 7:46 AM ^
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We do not have an average DL.
They are on of the better ones in the country when Glasgow is healthy.
LBs.... not so much.
November 28th, 2015 at 9:34 PM ^
I feel Ruddick developed into a better than average QB and the DL was easily better than average. Even with the injuries.
November 28th, 2015 at 6:12 PM ^
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November 28th, 2015 at 6:19 PM ^
but think some of the penalty problems are the difference between the NFL and college refing coupled with some really one sided refing as in the MSU game. Also the matchup problems exposed in the Indy game were worse today with the better talent of OSU as predicted by Brian. But then OSU is largely the same group that beat bama and a talented Oregon team last year to win the NC. Actually now that I am over the initial shock of this game I realize that harbaugh has done more with less here. He is using another coaches players and winning mostly. I am really optimistic about next season and going forward.
November 28th, 2015 at 6:20 PM ^
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November 28th, 2015 at 6:58 PM ^
The replay made it very clear that he caught the kicker's leg while he was still fully extended. It was as clear a roughing the kicker call as any could be.
The DBs are taught to watch the receiver until it appears the ball is about to arrive, but (1) on the TD, it certainly seemed like Clark had seen the ball but did nothing to try to actually tip the ball away until after it was in the receiver's hands and that Delano Hill just watched while doing nothing and (2) on the PI, Jourdan Lewis was in a much better position to catch the ball than the receiver and never even looked. If you don't see the ball, how can you intercept it?
November 28th, 2015 at 10:33 PM ^
Agreed on the roughing - if they're going to call that they're going to call that.
I think if he doesn't hit his own guy and go down though that might not get called. The contact itself by UM was really subtle. but flying into his guy and falling made it look worse to be called on the field. It took VERY slow mo to even see the contact.
But there was contact on an extended leg so I can't really complain.
November 28th, 2015 at 9:40 PM ^
We shouldn't have been anywhere near the punter's leg. We had momentum, were controlling OSU's offense and would would have gotten the ball near mid-field. We never stopped OSU after that. Turned the whole game around.