CBB All-Time Teams Match Up (Minus Trey?!)
EDIT: idiot first-time topic poster forgot link:
http://elitedaily.com/sports/college-basketball-rivalries-all-time-teams/852172/
Michigan starting five of: Rice, Tomjanovich, Webber, Rose and ... Crawford (!?).
Question 1: would you put Trey in for Crawford and move Jalen to shooting guard?
Question 2: Should Cazzie Russell displace either Trey or Jalen?
Question 3: which all-time team match-up (U-M or no U-M) would you relish most?
Also, '89 Michigan took out two of the Illinois starting five (Anderson and Gill). Sometimes forget how loaded that Illini team was.
November 26th, 2014 at 2:45 PM ^
...for those who would prefer the visual:
November 26th, 2014 at 3:25 PM ^
Cazzie and Gary Grant on, Crawford and Rose off.
November 26th, 2014 at 7:08 PM ^
No way you lose rose. His height and ability to handle the ball made him a match up nightmare. And he was the real leader of that team.
November 26th, 2014 at 2:48 PM ^
Cazzie definitely should be on that team
November 26th, 2014 at 2:54 PM ^
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November 26th, 2014 at 2:59 PM ^
over Rudy T. Go Blue beat Ohio
November 26th, 2014 at 3:01 PM ^
Stopped reading when i realized it came from Elite Daily
November 26th, 2014 at 3:02 PM ^
Serious question. Link came from a friend.
November 26th, 2014 at 4:24 PM ^
It's not your fault at all. It's not really a site that the mgocommunity shuns, like Bleacher Report.
It's just that the site, elite daily, claims to be a "voice for millienals / Generation Y / whatever trendy nickname you have for 20 something year olds"
It's insufferable
But the topic of discussion is a good one
November 26th, 2014 at 3:26 PM ^
http://elitedaily.com/humor/horrible-tinder-pickup-lines-that-actually-…
Here is a pretty awesome article from them.
November 26th, 2014 at 4:02 PM ^
I don't know that it's something that you should necessarily know about yet, but, from what I've seen, it's one of those clickbait sites that tries to generate interest through reposts and likes on facebook.
Generally, though, if it's an opinion article like that, I wouldn't even bother posting it. The whole point is to get people to link to it in other forums. So what if a 20-something looking for an idea for an article disagrees on who the best point guard from Michigan is? You're doing exactly what they want you to do.
November 26th, 2014 at 5:30 PM ^
... I posed my own questions in the post and no-one has to click through to answer them. I suppose I could have opened the topic without citing my (clickbait) inspiration, but maybe the "cite your sources" mantra is too ingrained.
Back to MMB, another thing I found interesting, but didn't mention, is how many fantastic and difficult choices we fans of a "non-basketball school" like UM have to make in arriving at a starting five.
I mean, Gary Grant was a hero of mine from the time he ran Syracuse out of Crisler in '87 and I didn't even think to put him in the starting rotation.
So, in sum, just enthusiastic about Michigan basketball today. Where it's been and where it's going. But will flag suspect sources in future when they set me off on flights of Final Four fancy.
November 26th, 2014 at 3:05 PM ^
Gary Grant - Webber - Rice - Cazzie - Rudy T
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Cazzie Russell at SG
Glenn Rice at SF
Chris Webber at PF
Roy Tarpley at C
November 26th, 2014 at 7:19 PM ^
November 26th, 2014 at 3:07 PM ^
I know it's from a stupid website, but it's still a stupid list. Your all-time starting five is:
Glen Rice
Cazzie Russell
Rudy Tomjanovich
Chris Webber
Trey Burke
Putting Crawford on that list because he's been a good pro is like saying Tom Brady is the all-time best Michigan quarterback. He's done the best, but he wasn't the best when he was here.
November 26th, 2014 at 3:10 PM ^
November 26th, 2014 at 3:51 PM ^
He really was good, but please! please! don't put Webber on that list. Kinda like that whole Pete Rose HOF thing.
November 26th, 2014 at 8:56 PM ^
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November 26th, 2014 at 5:12 PM ^
I'm scratching my head over the lack of love for Josh Moore and Avery Queen.
November 26th, 2014 at 6:13 PM ^
November 26th, 2014 at 3:25 PM ^
2. Dylan
3. Dylan
4. Dylan
5. Dani Wohl
November 26th, 2014 at 3:29 PM ^
Trey Burke
Jalen Rose
Nick Stauskas
Chris Webber
Juwan Howard.
November 26th, 2014 at 7:21 PM ^
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November 26th, 2014 at 3:34 PM ^
PG + SG: Trey Burke / Jalen Rose / Cazzie Russell [3 man rotation]
SF: Glen Rice / Nik Stauskas [2 man rotation]
PF + C: Chris Webber / Juwan Howard / Mitch McGary [3 man rotation]
coaching staff: the current one, because obviously
November 26th, 2014 at 3:49 PM ^
Hate to say it because I do really like Nik, but Glen Rice all day long.
November 26th, 2014 at 5:16 PM ^
Indeed, if you compare Rice's senior campaign to Stauskas's sophomore campaign then Rice has a clear edge.
However, if you compare the sophomore years, then Stauskas has the edge.
The other thing to consider is that Rice was shooting 3s from behind a 19'9" 3pt line while Stauskas was shooting them from 20'9"
I would be comfortable with a rotation between the two, with Rice getting more minutes.
November 26th, 2014 at 5:22 PM ^
But there are other factors. Rice played in the 4-year era so he was going up against more experienced competition. He also was a much better rebounder (I think he actually led the B1G one year) and a little better defensively. I think he definitely gets the nod.
November 26th, 2014 at 5:16 PM ^
damned doubles
November 26th, 2014 at 5:32 PM ^
And for me, Burke.
November 26th, 2014 at 5:13 PM ^
I like Mitch, but over Roy Tarpley? No way.
November 26th, 2014 at 3:48 PM ^
Both had wonderful potential, SOMETIMES flashed it, but left too much on the bench and then had off-the-field problems with drugs or payola.
November 26th, 2014 at 5:18 PM ^
I think that describes their NBA careers more than college. Tarpley averaged 19 and 10 his junior year here and Traylor 16 and 10 (and almost 3 assists per game) his last year.
We know in hindsight that Tarpley's substance-abuse problems began to develop when he was here (and it's a major black mark on Bill Frieder's legacy that he looked the other way) but he still performed really well.
November 26th, 2014 at 3:55 PM ^
Team A
Rickey Green
Cazzie Russell
Glen Rice
Rudy T
Bill Buntin
Team B
Gary Grant
Jalen Rose
Phil Hubbard
Chris Webber
Roy Tarpley
I think Trey Burke would have been on this list has he played one more year. Most unsung star: Loy Vaught . Campy Russell was hard to keep off. If I needed just an offensive player Mike McGee would be there over Nik Stauskas. I'm not old enough to have seen Oosterbaan.
November 26th, 2014 at 4:11 PM ^
The only post on this thread so far that makes any sense at all, because it's the only post on this thread so far that mentions Rickey Green.
November 26th, 2014 at 9:24 PM ^
Green and Hubbard would be immortal. May- Benson- Buckner were as good as any college trio ever, coached by Knight in his prime.
November 26th, 2014 at 7:27 PM ^
November 26th, 2014 at 9:21 PM ^
that's why they are named Team A : )
November 26th, 2014 at 3:59 PM ^
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Next five: Trey Burke, Rudy T, Jamal Crawford, Ricky Green, Roy Tarpley
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November 26th, 2014 at 4:57 PM ^
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November 26th, 2014 at 5:24 PM ^
Start with Zach Novak and Steve Groete. Who else?