OT: Bears trade Justin Fields to Steelers for pack of toilet paper and a bag of chips
I guess now it can be assumed that Chicago is taking a QB, most likely Caleb Williams unless they do something crazy and take JJ (hope to god not).
Chicago has now wasted their pick from 3 years ago, and to be honest I think Justin Fields in a better organization (Steelers definitely are) could be pretty good.
I guess Pittsburgh now won't be taking a QB, and will plan on Fields sitting behind Russell Wilson for a year which is honestly not a bad plan.
Do not want JJ on the Bears but JJ probably wants to be there.
Likewise. Keep JJ away from the Bears. Chicago is the place where QBs go to die. That USC QB will be no different there
March 16th, 2024 at 11:53 PM ^
It's a proud list. Going back 50 years you have the following:
Gary Huff
Bob Avellini
Mike Phipps
Vince Evans
Jim McMahon
Mike Tomczak
Jim Harbaugh
Steve Walsh
Erik Kramer
Dave Krieg
Shane Matthews
Cade McNown
Jim Miller
Kordell Stewart
Craig Krenzel
Kyle Orton
Rex Grossman
Jay Cutler
Mitchell Trubisky
Justin Fields
If you include back-up QB's who started games you can add Doug Flutie, Greg Landry, RIck Mirer and other illustrious characters.
March 17th, 2024 at 12:24 AM ^
It’s easy to forget (and seems insane to consider) Rex Grossman took them to a Super Bowl. And one-eyed McMahon won one.
Frankly, many teams have a similar litany of clown car passengers (JH brings some of the crazy while undeniably upping the talent).
March 17th, 2024 at 11:34 AM ^
Rex Grossman was the QB of that team, but he did not take them to the Super Bowl.
March 17th, 2024 at 12:49 AM ^
I think Cutler is the best of the list. He was the Kirk Cousins of his time.
20 QBs in fifty (50) years… hmmm.. what can be inferred from that?
That 20 goes into 50 easier than 50 goes into 20.
Oh, wait . . . different joke . . . sorry, I forgot we were talking football.
March 18th, 2024 at 12:10 PM ^
Browns say "hold my beer"
If the trade were four years ago the toilet paper would have been valuable.
You ain't shittin', or are you?
Bada Boom
Mega rolls?
In my hockey beer league, I was once traded for 2 tins of Kodiak
March 16th, 2024 at 10:17 PM ^
When I was quitting that shit, I'd have traded my dog for a tin.
March 16th, 2024 at 10:52 PM ^
one of the hardest things I have ever done in my life was quit chewing Kodiak
It was easy for me to quit.
Because my first (and only) time was taking a bet to put a whole tin of chew in my mouth and keep it there for 5 minutes.
Signed, the Green Man
the steelers got robbed!!
actually, fields has his moments.
Don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t want Fields QB1 for my team but he’s taken an undeservedly amount of shit. A 6th round pick?! He is an elite athlete. You could use him in some sort of a Taysom Hill role. Or just let him sit for a year and refine his game. The Steelers are trash but bravo to them to getting 2 QBs that are better than anyone on their roster for next to nothing.
The Steelers QB moves netted them:
-Russ, Fields, a 3rd rounder and two 7th rounders
In exchange for:
-Kenny Pickett, a 4th rounder and a 6th rounder
It may or may not work, but on paper, the Steelers GM absolutely cleaned up. They went to the playoffs last year with arguably the worst QB play in the league. They really just need average QB play this year to make noise.
Poles has done a good job acquiring talent for the Bears too. Trading the #1 overall pick (Bryce Young) got him:
- Caleb Williams (presumably)
- DJ Moore
- Keenan Allen
- Darnell Wright (starting RT)
- Tyrique Stevenson (starting CB)
- 2025 2nd round pick (from CAR)
As mediocre as Fields is, you have to feel bad for him that Poles waited until right NOW, when they get rid of him, to actually start building a competent offense that a QB can take advantage of.
March 17th, 2024 at 12:20 PM ^
Fields spent a significant time running for his life. I don't what his ceiling is but it's hard to show it when you're being chased down by a couple 280 pound men.
The problem was that he was better when he was running for his life and getting flushed from the pocket. When teams sat back in zones with eyes on the QB and kept him in the pocket, he was inept. It was checkdown city bc he couldn't anticipate guys coming open in windows between zones. He had to see it then throw it, and teams would just let him have the checkdown. The pinnacle was the game against KC this year when he threw 22 times for 99 yards. They just contained the edges, kept him in the pocket, and let him bury himself.
March 16th, 2024 at 10:56 PM ^
It is crazy to me how much it costs a team to move up a few slots in the draft, and then the same players taken in those slots are worth nothing on the trade market.
LOL bears. Tentative lol Stillers as they may have just wasted perfectly good TP.
“I look at the guys that can operate third down, two-minute and the end of the game situations," Eberflus said. "To me that's a separator. And then you look at toughness. Toughness for a quarterback really is about the mental toughness to be able to stand in the pocket and deliver the ball, and also to have the discernment to be able to move out of the pocket and create when it's necessary”
This screams JJ McCarthy to me but what do I know?
It does, but for some reason that actually means cry baby Caleb Williams. Which is a good thing for JJ. Bears aren’t going anywhere.
Caleb Williams screams Ryan Leaf to me. I am going to lmao when the Bears draft him
I'm not a Justin Fields fan but I honestly felt bad for the guy. The Bears are terrible.
March 16th, 2024 at 10:26 PM ^
Yeah, OSU has had a ton of busts at QB, but Fields seems to have not gotten a fair shake.
Stroud is incredible and exceeded anything I thought possible for him - he might take a step back this year due to defenses "figuring him out" off game tape, but his arm talent, accuracy and touch are unreal. He also gets through his reads and progressions a lot faster than expected for a rookie from an OSU system based on WRs simply being better than opponents.
As for Fields, he's not a great fit for most NFL teams, but he's also has some very unique talents. He could be successful if a team goes all in on him, like Baltimore did with Lamar Jackson, but it's a big leap for any franchise to make such a decision.
March 16th, 2024 at 10:40 PM ^
I don't know what his ceiling is but no one hits their ceiling with the Bears.
Chicago has been the worst organization in the NFL since the mid 80s especially when it comes to QBs.
Just wait til they get a dome…still no one will hit it
March 17th, 2024 at 12:16 AM ^
Stroud is one guy who I got totally wrong. That was mostly due to his affect wrt the Michigan games, his lack of mobility, and his inability to take a punch
Turns out that much of that may have been due to Ryan Day and not Stroud at all.
Given the recent history with Burrow, JJ, and Stroud I am thinking that Day's reputation with QB is a little exaggerated. Has he gotten any of them right? I will LOL when McCord is a 1st round pick in '25.
March 17th, 2024 at 12:09 PM ^
It's also probably his own attitude, which seemed to transform in that playoff game vs. Georgia. He (seemed to) realize that he couldn't simply rely on his team's overall talent to completely dominate an opponent, it required a little extra something on his part. I think that game was a very timely launching pad to the NFL; those last couple losses were very instructional.
That is sound and seems like a likely explanation
I couldn't imagine a player so miserable and detached could ever succeed in the league.
Justin Fields has had enough good fortune just handed to him that I believe he will be able to bear the weight of being drafted super, super high by the wrong NFL team and then underperforming.
I think he'll be better in Pittsburgh than Chicago but I still just don't see how the stuff that has hurt him his entire career - struggling to read defenses and read quickly, plus some accuracy issues - will be resolved on a team that hasn't been particularly good on offense for a while now.
Still, it's such a low-risk play I get why the Steelers would take it. I also assume that means the Bears are going to take Caleb Williams.
I don't know of an NFL team that has a worse front office than the Bears. Brady and Mahomes wouldn't have won here, I don't know that even JJ can overcome that level of ineptitude.
Well, we used to be able to rip into the lions. We can’t do that now.
I don't think it can be assumed at all...
Vlady, you got skills brother. Mad photoshop skills
Wow, I've never noticed that about JJ's arms before. I think he should get that looked at, it could be serious.
March 16th, 2024 at 10:47 PM ^
Please no. I live in Chicago and have to watch the travesty that is the Bears. I now find it hilarious. If JJ were there, it would make me very sad. Fields is not smart, but even he deserves better than the Bears.
March 17th, 2024 at 10:29 AM ^
This is why Williams and the Bears are a perfect fit. A #1 pick for a “generational” QB (which I am not confident he is) - without an OL.
This is why the Bears haven’t done much since ‘85.
Bears fan here. I couldn't be happier that the Bears moved on. Fields seemed like a good kid and everything, but it was more than apparent that he couldn't process things quickly enough. He had to see guys come open before letting it go, and that put a low ceiling on his game. Unfortunately, I see a lot of that in Williams too -- but maybe he can improve. Fields had more than enough time to improve, and he never did.
As a Steelers fan, I fucking love trading with you guys.
March 16th, 2024 at 10:58 PM ^
If you guys can play him enough to get us a 4th rd pick, I'll be stoked. That'll replace the cost we paid to get Keenan Allen, who filled the WR spot that Claypool f'd up.