OT: The University of Iowa announces 26 current athletes across several sports are being investigated in regards to gambling allegations.
Last week Alabama, now Iowa:
Iowa statement: https://osc.uiowa.edu/sports-wagering-investigation
Brian Ferentz would've cleaned up betting the under.
Maybe that's the actual explanation for Iowa's offense? Edit: Don beat me to it.
I'll try this instead:
If it involves letting other teams hit the over in basketball, who would be able to tell?
One of the twitter comments:
"A point shaving scandal would make everything about Brian Ferentz's offense make a lot more sense."
LOL
It should be a crime if he wasn't point shaving.
that wasnt point shaving. that was point scalping
Point beheading.
Point waxing
Point clear-cutting.
I believe we are referring to the Point Brazilian
I prefer point trimming to a straight Brazilian point, but either is preferable to the point mustache, or the wildly overgrown points.
Feel like the defensive coordinator and ST coaches didn't get the memo as they had multiple touchdowns.
When you've got nothing else to do but pick corn and go cow tippin... this is what happens.
It was all gambling on Punting statistics. Then one guy caught wind of it and shanked a punt so he could split $500 with his buddy (who placed the bet). Someone called Shenanigans and the rest of the ring confessed because they couldn’t handle the guilt.
all our cows sleep laying on the ground. no tipping possible.
Cow.... rolling?
maybe, but good luck rolling a 1000-1400 lb heifer. and if you want to try rolling a bull, please notify me ahead of time. i will film that. it will go viral. you will be famous.
The kids just wanted to bet the over on punts; can't blame them for taking easy money.
They also quickly jumped on the MGoBlog odds that Milton can't run a 4.6 40.
to be fair, there is not a helluva lot to do in iowa
Exactly, the most exciting thing to do in Iowa is circling dates on your new year calendar for the county fairs.
What....do you truly think we do all day and everyday here in the foreign land of "Iowa"?
You mean, besides practicing punting?
…Plow under your corn to build a baseball diamond?
Both Iowa and Iowa State this week, Bama baseball just recently.
Starting to feel like maybe we're seeing a dam breaking.
And that make me a bit nervous, because there's nothing innately superior about Michigan teams that would immunize them from having similar issues, other than it being harder to shave points without Brian Ferentz as an OC.
Too much experience with scandals popping up in other institutions, feeling moral superiority... and then finding out that such feelings are completely illusory.
College sports is more vulnerable to the rise of the online gambling industry. Harder to police on campus and less to lose compared to the pros. As the NCAA says in the commercial, "almost all of them will be going pro in something other than sports" so the temptation to cash in is going to be much higher.
Good things people can't bet on their smartphones, just imagine all the....wait a second.
Old-fashioned phrases like "whistling past the graveyard" and "people who live in glass houses" come to mind...
These days, you can bet on:
- Obscure college baseball games
- Obscure college hockey games (remember when Brian would joke in the hockey previews "point spread??? this is college hockey, what is wrong with you???" Well, it's not a joke anymore)
- The upcoming NCAA lacrosse tournament! (Michigan +2 against Cornell; Delaware -6 against Marist in the play-in game!)
- The recently concluded men's NCAA volleyball tournament.
I suppose all that is great for the degenerate gambler. They can have action everywhere!
But .... yes, absolutely, the dam is going to break. It's way too easy to bet (just download an app!), there are way too many obscure games out there where stuff could be manipulated, and for non-rich college students, there's a lot of $$$ that could be made.
I'd be shocked if there isn't an absolutely huge scandal within the next 5 years.
"I'd be shocked if there isn't an absolutely huge scandal within the next 5 years."
Captain Renault would shocked if there was.
LOL .... Mark Emmert isn't around anymore, but he'd make for a good Captain Renault.
They're probably now betting on whether Bob Huggins can hang onto his job at WVU.
Guarantee there are guys on every team betting in states where it’s readily available. Probably a decent number betting on college/NFL football even if not in a points shaving way.
This is absolutely going to be a mess.
You mean states like....Michigan?
My 1st thought was I hope this isn’t an epidemic.
If it can happen at Iowa…
Point shaving has been going on in college basketball since at least 1950 (CCNY, LIU), but I never imagined it would leak out beyond basketball. Run shaving in baseball. C'mong, man.
I'm sure there are a lot of gambling apps being deleted from Phones across college campuses as we speak.
The risk is huge to the point where it feels unavoidable at this point. I'm afraid this has the potential to end college sports as a form of entertainment entirely. If fans have reason to stop trusting that all competitors are legitimately trying their best (and that referees are impartial), then sports devolve into something like the WWE, except incalculably worse because no one controls the script.
I really hope it doesn't come to that but I'm beginning to fear that avalanche has already begun.
Virginia decided to ban betting on in state college teams and banned betting any college prop bets. So you can't bet on anything like "JJ 2.5 TDs"
New York doesn't allow betting on in-state college games either. It's saved me a lot of money on St. John's, actually.
"from baseball, football, men’s basketball, men’s track and field, and men's wrestling, as well as one full-time employee of the UI Department of Athletics."
Well, that seems like a lack of institutional control.
Not to laugh at Iowa, but this could happen anywhere including Michigan as another poster said above with the rise of legal online gambling today. It must be really hard to police this when you have hundreds of athletes and student managers surrounded on campus by thousands of students, any of whom could try to hit up your athletes and support staff for information.
Face reality folks. It’s legal. Everybody has a smart phone. Anyone can download a gambling app and bet anywhere at anytime. If you are worried you could be fingered use your best friends account. Every single college program will be effected.
Huh? I'm not worried about anything legal. I'm worried about the illegal potential. The sound of this report is that these players and students potentially committed crimes, not just NCAA violations. Were they betting on their own sport or other Iowa games with insider information? That is not legal in many cases.
There are issues in the college game compared to the pros that makes the collegiate game more susceptible to illegal activity. There are so many unpaid student staff and players that are more susceptible targets. Universities and conferences have no requirements to share injury reports like the pros have done to promote more integrity in the game. Reporters have more access to coaches and game day preparations like shoot-arounds in the pros.
The funniest and saddest thing is that they actually could do a reasonable job of controlling it with device management software. Of course, they would probably need to classify the athletes as employees in that case to install those controls.
So of course they won't do it.
Well, sure, as long as everybody was on the Hugh Freeze phone plan.
You'd expect everyone with more than a doughnut for a brain would keep a burner phone for illicit gambling…
I read a report somewhere that there are some companies that do monitor this along with other things like patterns for suspicious betting/line moves for leagues and universities. But like the poster said in a reply, I don't know how you would be able to monitor a friend, family member, or another student/classmate who was placing bets for the athlete or in coordination in some sort of financial arrangement.
That only works if LARGE amounts of money are being bet. A $100 or even $1000 here and there will never be caught.
But worse than previous instances of lack of control. Because 1) it could happen anywhere, 2) there are almost no methods to create institutional control that don't involve draconian invasion of privacy for students, and 3) because the betting companies make it so deliberately addictive and easy.
As a society, we've effectively stocked the vending machines with only opioids and meth. And now we're surprised there's an addiction crisis.
not surprised. maybe this is why Cade and All went there. to make bank throwing games
Wouldn't that require people betting on Iowa to win? Seems like a hole in that plan.
Man, I hope this curse doesn't come for our teams.