Former MSU bball player Adreian Payne dies at Age 31
Sad news for a young man gone too soon. Cause of death has not been given.
Chris Solari on Twitter: "Confirmed the former MSU star big man has died. He was 31." / Twitter
Wow, doesn't seem so long ago he was in college, RIP.
Always so sad when a youngster dies.. I pray for him and his family.
31 is way, way too young. That is really sad.
Truly sad news. Far, far too young, especially for someone who, from an outsider's perspective, was more than just a model citizen off the court, but did exemplary work with those that are less fortunate (the Lacey story while he was in college being the most prominent).
I’m not so sure about the model citizen part.
Just FYI, he was pretty heavily implicated in the MSU sexual assault problems with Appling.
"Heavily implicated" meaning he was investigated by multiple agencies and never charged. Guess guilty until proven innocent for a lot folks here.
MuLtIpLe AgEnCiEs!@!!
There is no good reason to ever type like that. It’s just awful.
He wasn't charged because the alleged victim ultimately didn't file charges - though she later said she was pressured not to do so. That's not proof he's guilty, but makes the case look pretty unsavory.
Interesting how East Lansing authorities never seem to find enough evidence to charge MSU athletes. Hmmm
Those involved was investigated by the county prosecutor, who declined to press charges. They just didn't have the evidence to prosecute, which is hard without a cooperating witness or a rape kit. That doesn't mean the deed wasn't done. Look at all those cases. It was the same thing. There's a reason Hollis resigned, and it wasn't because of the Nassar case or "family issues".
In this case, the prosecutor (A Michigan grad) took the unusual step of holding a press conference and stating that, "No crime was committed." Hate MSU too, but this was not any kind of coverup.
That same prosecutor was also incredibly corrupt and a criminal. He resigned from office because of scandal. Including prostitution and apparently getting women to exchange sexual favors to have charges against them dropped or to otherwise have their records cleared. It's hard not to imagine that the corrupt top prosecutor covering Ingham County would provide air cover for MSU and their athletics program. Keeping MSU and their influential donors happy is a great way to keep getting reelected.
LMAO @ "A Michigan grad." WTF, as if absolves someone of being corrupt and/or implies that he would've tried harder to bring charges b/c the target was an MSU bball player? Just STFU.
Don't forget this was the prosecutor at the time. Notorious for letting MSU athletes get away with crimes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Dunnings_III
My recollection is that Appling was probably more at fault than Payne, BUT i also remember reading a statement Payne made to the police to the effect of ‘I can understand why she (the victim) felt she wasn’t free to leave’.
Given the way the east landfill pd has fallen all over itself to protect the misdeeds of sparty athletes, taken in combination with that statement, I wouldn’t be too comfortable declaring him as some paragon of virtue, but you do you
I've seen the video of his statement to the police and it was awfully close to an admission of guilt.
As everyone knows, one bad Appling spoils the bunch…
Just because there may not have been enough to charge him--and get a conviction--doesn't mean he was innocent or that the rest of us can't draw our own conclusions.
RIP for sure.
But it was more than coincidental that his good deeds started getting traction shortly after the MSU abuse allegations.
That's a lie to defame his reputation. Be better. Lacey died - and that whole story was big - before the Nassar/ESPN stuff.
You better to get ready to neg a lot of comments, because I'm not the only one holding this opinion.
Your opinion is a lie, but you do you.
I know it sucks when your heroes do bad things, so please don't blame me or ESPN.
Except your narrative is BS. Maybe he did something bad, but who knows...he was never charged.
But she died in 2014, the story was huge back then w/ Payne, then the Nassar stuff was like 2016/2017. So, yes, it's a lie to say that the Lacey stuff was intentionally put out there once the Nassar/ESPN stuff came out.
There were rumors of allegations before the child died. Payne's rape had nothing to do with Nasser's rapes.
Again, on due process. But you do you. I assume you believe Howard intentionally spread his herpes around.
I think we need to do us.
Can you read? Nobody is saying that story was put out there to deflect from the Nasser situation, it was pit out there to deflect the fact that Appling almost certainly, and Payne likely, raped a girl freshman year before their very first game and despite some pretty compelling evidence (including incriminating statements by Payne himself) the prosecutor didn’t charge them. Given the way sparty athletes have been shielded from consequences for many, many crimes, the fact that they weren’t charged isn’t some slam dunk evidence of innocence
Look, my only point is that for people to say he is absolutely a RAPIST is tough for somebody that believes in due process. Maybe he did something bad, maybe not...but it's just bad to automatically say he's a rapist when that is not 100% proven. But if calling him undoubtedly an absolute rapist makes them feel better, then so be it. Rivalries are rivalries, I get it.
I agree that nobody, with the exception of the victim can say for sure what happened that night. My issue is the fact that you’ve accused others of lying and have somehow convinced yourself that this has anything to do with the Nassar situation. It doesn’t.
I also believe in due process, but acknowledge the consistent failure of our legal system to handle rape/sexual assault. The fact that he made self-incriminating statements, to me, is a hell of a lot more compelling than the fact that some sparty stooge prosecutor declined to file charges. If you knew anything about the legal system, or weren’t so apparently pro-msu, i believe you’d look at this the same way.
Strange hill to die on, but you do you.
dude was a rapist, not gonna endorse him as a "model citizen".
but 31 is too young and probably due to some tough circumstances.
Not believing in due process is pretty fucked up.
And what's your feeling on Mateen Cleaves?
I don't know, maybe guilty maybe not. Just seems sad to automatically declare somebody guilty due only to your rivalry considerations.
If you think this is solely due to a rivalry you have clearly not read anything regarding this situation. Which makes your steadfast defense of him even more baffling.
I truly hope he changed as a person before his death. But he was almost certainly part of something truly evil.
Frank Clark is an abusive piece of shit. Bo was a sexual predator enabler and horrible person.
How many more examples should I provide? It's not about a rivalry you idiot.
using terms you don't understand is pretty not smart
Somebody said he's guilty despite what the authorities said. So, yes, that shows they don't believe in due process.
Incorrect. If they said he should have been in jail without benefit of a trial, then it would show they do not believe in due process. It's wise to avoid using terms you don't understand.
Look in the mirror, champ.
I did and I see someone who understands what due process means. If you do so, however, you'll see a rivalry-assessed fanboy flailing around ineffectually.
RAFFAI
you aren't bright enough to know what he's saying so i'll dumb it down for you.
due process is a legal term, and no one here suggested he should have been thrown in jail. no one suggested he shouldn't be afforded due process.
due process does not have to do with public opinion, whereby someone may still think he's a shitty dude regardless of legal proceedings that may or may not have happened.
so he was correct, don't use terms you don't understand.
Ldd10 apparently proud of, and doing his best to personify staee’s unoffical slogan - can’t read, can’t write
HAHAHAHAHAHA "despite what the authorities said?" Are you twelve?
Because ol due process has a perfect track record.
What you call "not believing in due process" I call "recognizing that our legal system is far from perfect, and one of the biggest holes in it is the infrequency in which sexual assault victims receive justice, particularly when the perpetrators are powerful or well-connected."
If you're comfortable proclaiming that any athlete at MSU (or for that matter, Michigan or anywhere else) that wasn't convicted of a sex crime in a court of law is 100% innocent, you're burying your head in the sand.