Wow... Kenneth walker fumble call is left as-is yet last week Michigan's fumble recovery TD reversed?
In the MSU vs Perdue game Walker fumbles, with the call on field upheld after replay. This call / scenario is nearly the exact same scenario as Michigan's sack fumble recovery the prior week. Yet that call was reversed despite no conclusive evidence to overturn. And Walker's fumble stays as called.
Pretty unbelievable.
November 6th, 2021 at 4:02 PM ^
After watching the OSU game today, I find it increasingly difficult to explain these errors as incompetence.
It probably is incompetence, but the burden of proof is starting to shift.
November 6th, 2021 at 4:04 PM ^
B1G has a huge officiating corruption problem.
November 6th, 2021 at 4:19 PM ^
I keep trying to convince myself it is incompetence but it is getting more difficult.
November 6th, 2021 at 4:49 PM ^
Don't know how to imbed this, but if you haven't seen Rich Eisen go off on the Big Ten officials it's worth your watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8covtgKVaZU&ab_channel=TheRichEisenShow
November 6th, 2021 at 4:04 PM ^
This is the exact same scenario. A 50-50 play but no conclusive evidence to overturn either call on the field. Yet they overturn the huge sack fumble td vs Michigan?
November 6th, 2021 at 4:06 PM ^
That WR getting tackled while the ball is in the air late in the game on a key Nebraska pass is exactly what you would expect to see if someone had money on a game. If our WR got called for holding and that is uncalled, seriously guys i dont know what is going on.
November 6th, 2021 at 4:31 PM ^
The problem is that when we do get boned, our AD doesn't go to bat for the program. We just lean over a log and squeal like a pig. The refs won't do anything like that to OSU because the conference will hear about it on Monday.
November 6th, 2021 at 4:33 PM ^
Right on the money.
November 6th, 2021 at 4:57 PM ^
Yeah, missing an obvious pass interference on a critical play.
November 6th, 2021 at 4:03 PM ^
Its " Purdue " and you need to get over it . You arent going to change anything by whining about it .
November 6th, 2021 at 4:57 PM ^
Yeah acting like it wasn't a blown 16 point lead that caused the game.... That one play though, that's what did it .....
November 6th, 2021 at 5:17 PM ^
2 things can be true at the same time: (1) it was a terrible call that had a huge impact on the game (2) Michigan still should have won in spite of the refs
November 6th, 2021 at 5:15 PM ^
29 people are on a field in a college football game, and 7 of them are professionals. No one is trying to stop those professionals from performing their job correctly. The it happens attitude never works for me
November 6th, 2021 at 5:15 PM ^
29 people are on a field in a college football game, and 7 of them are professionals. No one is trying to stop those professionals from performing their job correctly. The it happens attitude never works for me
November 6th, 2021 at 4:04 PM ^
Yeah
Sucks just as much as when it happened
and still we could have pulled the game out.
we have to play above the insanity at some point and yet we seem never to be able to
November 6th, 2021 at 4:08 PM ^
The insanity swings games. This is about fair competition not sour grapes. This is the exact same scenario and one stands on the field (the right result) and the other is reversed. Huge calls. Result swinging calls! Where is the $##%!@ consistency?
November 6th, 2021 at 5:24 PM ^
When there is no accountability there is no consistency.
they don’t REQUIRE them to get better so they don’t.
just like adding a tip automatically to your bill in some places, there is no incentive to work harder/be better.
no reward for it
no negatives of you Don’t improve
November 6th, 2021 at 4:10 PM ^
At some point, it is not reasonable to expect a team to "play above the insanity".
November 6th, 2021 at 5:25 PM ^
If you NEVER play above it you don’t believe you can.
November 7th, 2021 at 9:29 AM ^
We're 8-1, so obviously we do play above it most of the time.
November 6th, 2021 at 4:13 PM ^
Refs spotted the Spartans somewhere between 7 and 16 points depending on how you feel about completing the catch and the worst rule in football (still a rule though...).
If they just straight up started the game with 16 points on the scoreboard for the opponent, would it be reasonable to expect the team to "overcome the insanity"?
November 6th, 2021 at 4:19 PM ^
Exactly. Harbaugh is routinely asked to overcome 7-14 points of poor officiating in critical games, and everyone gets pissed when he can’t do it. If Michigan wins 2015 MSU, 2016 OSU, 2019 PSU, and 2021 MSU, how different is the narrative?
November 6th, 2021 at 4:38 PM ^
Yes, Michigan was straight up screwed by the refs in all 4 of those games. If someone asked me the four biggest screw jobs of Michigan in the last 10 years I would list those exact same 4 games.
November 6th, 2021 at 5:30 PM ^
But they won NONE of those games.
they don’t make the winning plays they turn it over at the crucial moment WVERY FREAKING TIME
or get a bad call that costs them the game.
2016 OSU, qb makes 3 HUGE turnovers that gave them 14 and md took 7 off the board for us
the 3rd and 9 play before the 4th and 1 we had them trapped 15 yards behind the LOS and didn’t make a play to get the receiver down and he turned a loss into 4th and 1.
it’s consistent, we aren’t good enough in the big moments, sparty was
we aren’t,
reality sucks
November 6th, 2021 at 6:44 PM ^
At what point do you acknowledge that the team played to expectations, or better, and yet still couldn't overcome a ref show? With all things being the same in each of those games, except fair officiating, do you still think Michigan loses those games? I don't, and neither do most others.
It's not just the calls that were made, it's all the non-calls that should have been made. There are plenty of videos of the 2016 OSU game that you can watch and see them. You should watch those. Nobody is saying that Michigan didn't leave plays and points on the field, or that they played perfectly. But at some point, you must acknowledge that they played as well as could be reasonably expected given the circumstances. Give them fair officiating last week (TD stands, overturned 4th down MSU catch not overturned, Anthony hold on the 10, 4th down DPI), and that's probably a 17 point win over a top 10 team on the road.
November 6th, 2021 at 4:12 PM ^
Big Ten officiating is bad - this is known.
They could also be showing favoritism to advance the conference agenda... but the incomptence is more likely.
November 6th, 2021 at 4:16 PM ^
Most likely. But, if there is corruption it will come out 15 years later and no one will care.
November 6th, 2021 at 4:41 PM ^
It’s remarkable how many people will just believe stuff that involves a massive conspiracy that would merit serious criminal charges if uncovered.
Besides, it’s in the B1G’s financial interest for Michigan to be good. The Michigan-OSU game was a lynchpin for Fox’s big money contract and should be again when it’s time to negotiate a new deal; Michigan making that a great game is exactly what they want.
If the officials were being directed to produce a winner for the conference, they wouldn’t have made the dumb calls they did last Saturday.
Might be time for some people to get outside for a bit. The refs are terrible, but a massive league wide conspiracy to direct that terribleness in a certain way is… highly improbable.
November 6th, 2021 at 5:17 PM ^
That’s all true, but there is a financial incentive to keep the game close and that’s exactly what they did.
November 6th, 2021 at 6:20 PM ^
Home field advantage mostly amounts to officiating, which is tilted because refs want to be liked. (Imagine announcing, to a 100k red-faced mob in Columbus, that Barrett was short)
I think there have been academic papers about this
November 7th, 2021 at 8:51 AM ^
You say this as though referees fixing games hasn't already happened in the NBA, Serie A, etc.
November 6th, 2021 at 4:17 PM ^
Premise 1: we should have made better plays last week.
Premise 2: bad officiating cost us the game.
It is not an either/or scenario. Both are true
November 6th, 2021 at 4:20 PM ^
IDGAF what anyone says, this conference is so corrupt with its officiating, last weeks game was barely less corrupt than the 2016 osu game, just disgusting when one team has to overcome so much BS.
But our coaching is also to blame for last week, the playcalling in the 2nd half left way too much to be desired.
November 6th, 2021 at 4:22 PM ^
Playing Perdue Chicken, or Will Perdue?
Either way, typical weak MSU schedule
November 6th, 2021 at 4:22 PM ^
This is not productive. It’s time to move on.
November 6th, 2021 at 4:36 PM ^
How’s it going, Warde?
November 6th, 2021 at 4:58 PM ^
That is exactly why ref situation has not changed.
November 6th, 2021 at 4:58 PM ^
That is exactly why ref situation has not changed.
November 6th, 2021 at 4:26 PM ^
Nice dime pass from O'Connell and catch for Purdue TD there.
November 6th, 2021 at 4:26 PM ^
I think that there is an unconfirmed rumor that the B1G apologized to UM for their mistake. If they actually did, wouldn't this call just be them actually getting the call right and living up to their apology?
November 6th, 2021 at 4:43 PM ^
BFD.
"We fucked up your season. Sorry." ~The Big Ten
November 6th, 2021 at 5:01 PM ^
Who cares?
This costs the B1G exactly nothing and they know that M will be perfectly content with this meaningless, "moral," victory after the fact.
November 6th, 2021 at 6:54 PM ^
You are alluding to something that has been on my mind for a while...
I have had it. I'm so sick of being content with the corruption. All of it. At the end of the season, I am going to make some serious evaluations about my college football fandom.
But I am kicking around the idea of a boycott. It may not work or be effective, but SOMETHING needs to be done for accountability. I will probably ask y'all for input at the end of the season.
It was time to stop being content when the B1G allowed Urban Meyer to get away with covering up domestic violence.
November 6th, 2021 at 4:31 PM ^
I’ve said it before the universe has it out for Michigan football could give you a list but it’s useless.
November 6th, 2021 at 4:32 PM ^
Saw that sequence and was disgusted
still can’t believe they flipped that call and took pts off.
anyway, let’s eff up IU today.
November 6th, 2021 at 4:37 PM ^
And yet Michigan still could’ve won handily and, by it’s own faults, didn’t.
Sucks, and I’m sure a few here will neg me, but eventually Michigan needs to start blaming itself for the situation it’s in, too. Refs aren’t responsible for Michigan blowing a 16 point lead and failing to stop one fucking guy.
November 6th, 2021 at 4:43 PM ^
I repeat: it is not either/or.
That we had bad coaching and bad plays does not change the fact that bad officiating happened, and it altered the outcome of the game.
Put it this way: if we had played a flawless game, and it still came down to bad officiating, would you still say that what calls are on the field do not matter?
November 6th, 2021 at 5:02 PM ^
Could Michigan have made better plays? Yes. But they shouldn't have to.
Refs will find a way to screw them even if they made better plays. Don't call a hold, call an incompletion on a completion or other way around. When the team are playing pretty even, it is not fair to ask to ask one team to be perfect.
November 6th, 2021 at 4:37 PM ^
Tough to beat the other team and the refs in every big game. Not sure if it’s a conscious conspiracy but Harbaugh is not liked and that has to factor into it in the heat of the moment. It’s just too much of a trend to dismiss.
November 6th, 2021 at 4:38 PM ^
This fanbase sure does whine a lot