PSVue is dead ... long live ???
Sony killed PSVue yesterday...so I did a 5-day trial of YouTubeTV based on everything I've read here. I find it to be fairly badass...quality is good, easy to search for shows to set up in DVR (unlimited & keep 9 months!) and has everything I could want except the History channel.
The user interface seems a bit easier to navigate than PSVue and, using your google login is a nice plus. Pretty nice to use your webbrowser to set up your DVR shows and bam it's on your TV.
Downside? No app for my PS4 which I use as a streaming box...Roku TV picks it up and there's apps for everything else.
Price is $50/month...just wondering what other people ended up doing?
January 31st, 2020 at 12:34 PM ^
There is an app for ps4 now
January 31st, 2020 at 12:50 PM ^
Hmm I just looked...guess I looked in the wrong spot. Damn interwebz!
Thanks for the info btw.
January 31st, 2020 at 1:07 PM ^
No problem! I had been waiting for one of the services to get the app on PS4 and that was the one I was going to go with. Saw youtubetv first and went with it. Definitely liking it so far
January 31st, 2020 at 12:34 PM ^
Sportz Prime. Look it up. 2900 channels for $7.50 a month including all sports packages and PPV events
January 31st, 2020 at 4:25 PM ^
Assuming you live in the US, why would you PAY for stolen content?
January 31st, 2020 at 12:39 PM ^
Hulu Live.
January 31st, 2020 at 12:39 PM ^
I'm about to cut the cord and move on to Youtube TV. I did a two week trial and was pretty happy with it, only thing I'm going to miss is MSG (local to NYC/Rangers Hockey) but I can watch thanks to a friends log in. It'll save me only $15 a month but is accessible in two locations (mountain home) whereas my cable sub and in app streaming only works one, where the service cable service is active.
edit: Well, I went from "about to cut the cord" when I wrote this to "I cut the fucking cord" in less than three hours!
January 31st, 2020 at 4:00 PM ^
Is that an MSG thing?
I get NESN which is Boston's local channel for the Bruins and Red Sox.
January 31st, 2020 at 4:17 PM ^
I get YES but I don't really watch the Yankees or the Nets, both of which are on YES. Lil' Jimmy Dolan owns MSG as well as the Rangers and his own cable company so he's always in for a game of "look at me be a dick" in every single way he can... so no Rangers for me for the time being but there are ways around it!
January 31st, 2020 at 12:41 PM ^
My buddy went the cable free route and ended up paying $75.00 more for the year than when he had regular cable. The problem is who do you get your Wifi from. Most of the big 3 or 4, (at least in Michigan metro area) meaning Xfinity, Wow, Dish, AT&T, and DirecTV charge a little extra if you just get Wifi, not to mention the unlimited plan. That makes cord cutting just a novel idea.
January 31st, 2020 at 12:45 PM ^
I don’t end up saving any money but it’s great I don’t have to have a cord run to each room I wanna throw a TV in.
January 31st, 2020 at 2:56 PM ^
This is a big perk. I can put a TV wherever there is an outlet. And you don't pay "per box" as some companies charge you. I even have a Fire Stick on a TV that is on a rolling stand so I can roll it outside to watch something if I want. It gets use not that often, but it's nice when you want it!
January 31st, 2020 at 4:28 PM ^
Yup, flexibility and lack of a per box/DVR fee is what I love most. With PS Vue, during football season, I would have 4 tabs open on my desktop with 4 different games at the same time, and sometimes an extra game streaming on a tablet.
I looked at getting a DVR under regular cable and the cost was ridiculous. And then that DVR only exists in 1 location, whereas I can access my DVR (YouTube TV) at work, or any screen in my house (tablet, PS4, desktop, phone). And there's just 1 fee for all of it, instead of the cable fee, box fee, dvr fee, extra packages, etc.
January 31st, 2020 at 12:48 PM ^
We ended up saving about $35 a month cutting the cord. We got a pretty good deal on internet only, so it worked nice for us.
January 31st, 2020 at 12:57 PM ^
In the least surprising outcome of all time the proliferation of individual streaming makes it so that getting the same amount of content is now more expensive than it would be with cable.
Cutting the cord is still fine if you like to watch just one thing but that is about it
January 31st, 2020 at 2:06 PM ^
The reason I prefer the streaming set up is that I can pick what I want. I don't have to pay for LifeTime, Hallmark, and all these other channels I will quite literally never watch. We currently leech off of my in-laws' cable subscription to watch live sports. If they decide to cut cable, we're going to have YouTubeTV from August / September through the end of the NCAA tournament, then cut it until the following August / September. The only service we care about subscribing to is Disney+ and we buy movies for cheap during Black Friday every year. We may eventually get into Netflix or Hulu, but we don't need those right now (we can leech if need be).
If you want all of the content cable provides, yes streaming will be more expensive than cable.
January 31st, 2020 at 2:07 PM ^
Maybe I’m part of a fortunate minority but my cable & internet bill was $217 a month. I switched over to YouTube TV but kept my Internet with my previous cable provider. All in monthly cost now is $118. Once my house is finished I’ll probably buy a router instead of renting one from my internet provider and drop that by another $10 a month or so.
January 31st, 2020 at 2:54 PM ^
I'd definitely suggest buying the modem and router. While its a bit more upfront it pays for itself after a bit and you can always resell it on ebay and make some money back.
I bought a gigabit modem and invested in a mesh network since my house is very spreadout, and that's been wonderful. Loving it.
January 31st, 2020 at 2:55 PM ^
This. We get like 300 mbps download from the xfinity tower with unlimited data., netflix, amazon prime and you tube TV and its like $170 a month. Cable bill was $230 and that was 3 years ago before we cut the cord.
Also the ability to put the apps on your phone and watch whatever from anywhere, cast to your buddies smart tv etc. Get more for less money
January 31st, 2020 at 4:11 PM ^
And also the ability to pause your subscription. After college basketball season is over, we shut it down until September, so we save an additional $200/year on top of the $20/monthly for a contract w/ cable.
January 31st, 2020 at 4:31 PM ^
Yup, I'll typically carry only the basic or no service at all from April to Augusts, then pick up the regular/regular + every sports channel option every August/September.
Can't change your cable contract on a month to month basis, that's for sure
January 31st, 2020 at 1:10 PM ^
This is my experience as well. You can always get their promo prices if you ask. The actual cost was much cheaper to get cable and internet together than something like YouTube+ along with internet, however, once you factor in the cable fees (which they don’t tell you about and are ridiculously high for fees) it comes out to roughly even. If it ever becomes more I’ll likely cut the cord, But for now it’s easy enough to just keep it and the convenience of cable is nice.
January 31st, 2020 at 1:43 PM ^
Our plan is to cut the cord next week. We already have Netflix, Hulu, Disney+, ESPN, HBOGO, STARZ, and probably a couple of others I don't know about. So I'm not anticipating adding more bills with streaming services, just eliminating a cable TV bill.
January 31st, 2020 at 2:06 PM ^
Spectrum internet only plan under $50 a month
January 31st, 2020 at 2:49 PM ^
FYI...The Spectrum internet under $50 is only for a year. My 1 year was up last week and it is now $64.99.
Also, I am now trying out Vidgo. $39.99 and you prepay per month. Has every sports channel you need except CBSSports plus most of the entertainment channels.
No DVR or local channels, but I have an HD antenna for those.
I guess we’ll see how it works.
January 31st, 2020 at 2:10 PM ^
At this point the savings comes from only subbing during X season and cancelling for the others. You also need to rotate services so binge HBO for a month, binge Starz, YoutubeTV for football season etc.
January 31st, 2020 at 2:47 PM ^
This really depends on how your setup. I had DirecTV which was really expensive, so cutting the cord saved me some money (even with upping to Gigabit internet). But for others I can see how it may end up being even to more expensive. Streaming is pretty flexible, however (e.g., just pull up the game on your computer if you're working and want to watch), or move around on TVs without much issue. Not sure I would pay for that if it was a lot more expensive, but it is a nice perk.
I don't need an unlimited plan on internet to stream. I pay $80 a month for Gigabit from Comcast with a typical 1024 GB cap. I'm paying for Gigabit though because I want it, I certainly could have chosen a cheaper plan.
January 31st, 2020 at 12:42 PM ^
Rabbit ears and tinfoil
January 31st, 2020 at 12:51 PM ^
I wanted to go that route but wife has some shows on cable she likes...Happy Wife Happy Life etc etc
January 31st, 2020 at 1:09 PM ^
Remember the 90s, when getting cable was as simple as...
1. move into multi-unit dwelling
2. Locate cable junction box for building
3. Install splitter on neighbor's cable line
4. Covertly run line to your apartment, realize 50' line is too short
5. Rummage through plastic tub of electronic shit to find more line
6. Drive to Radio Shack for another 50' cable
7. Get home, then immediately return to Radio Shack for male-to-male coupler
8. Get home and finish the job.
9. Watch Red Wings win for free on PASS.
10. Celebrate by hooking up with the hot girl next door whose cable subscription you're "borrowing."
My memory may be a bit hazy on that last item, but I'm pretty sure I'm recalling steps 1 through 9 correctly. Like riding a bike.
January 31st, 2020 at 2:19 PM ^
Back in my apartment days, which was 20 years ago, my roommate and I had a cable box that a friend's father chipped for us to get all of the cable channels that were available. We went to the cable junction box in between the buildings, opened it with zero tools, and screwed our apartments coax line into the coax splitter. Every few months, a cable guy would be in the box adding or removing someone and would disconnect us while he was in there. One of us would just go back down and put it back.
January 31st, 2020 at 6:33 PM ^
Oh man, those were the days. Were you one of the lucky blokes who got the ppv boxing events through the box too?
January 31st, 2020 at 12:44 PM ^
DirecTV Now which became ATT Now. Did not go with YouTube because it didn’t have HGTV at the time. HGTV is a personal fav of the wife and I’ll admit when it’s on I think who could possibly watch this... 3 hours later I realize it’s me. I could possibly watch it.
January 31st, 2020 at 12:56 PM ^
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January 31st, 2020 at 12:44 PM ^
Don't know if you need to do a system update or what -- but there is a ps4 app.
January 31st, 2020 at 12:45 PM ^
I've had YouTube TV for over a year now & love it, wish I made the switch earlier. I love the interface, navigation & unlimited DVR. I had Hulu Live for a little bit but have been much happier with YTTV
January 31st, 2020 at 12:47 PM ^
To answer your question in your last statement - no, I am not wondering what other people are doing.
January 31st, 2020 at 12:49 PM ^
We decided to go TV-free, until I decide what to do for football season. Since the Wings, Pistons, and Tigers all suck, I don't need sports until next fall. I hooked up an HD antenna so we can watch the Super Bowl.
Just using Netflix and Hulu to cover any entertainment needs until then.
January 31st, 2020 at 12:53 PM ^
That's what I told my wife...really only wanted cable for Michigan games but she likes watching certain shows so YouTubeTV it is :(
January 31st, 2020 at 1:13 PM ^
^^^^THIS POST
January 31st, 2020 at 1:02 PM ^
YouTubeTV
Best options for everyday TV and sports for only $50
January 31st, 2020 at 1:07 PM ^
I dropped Hulu for YouTube a month ago when Hulu upped its monthly rate- I hated its UI with the fury of a thousand suns too, the price bump was the last straw. YouTube is easy to use, I know it has original programming and DVR capabilities, but I haven't used either yet.
I have Netflix and Prime, and am on and off (now on) with ESPN+, previously just for the All Blacks, but now for MMA. I had HBO Go til GoT ended, I'll probably pick it back up someday for a couple months to binge what I've missed.
January 31st, 2020 at 1:08 PM ^
Fuck you and fuck that...
PC MASTER RACE!
January 31st, 2020 at 1:21 PM ^
Roku and Hulu live. I would have gone with Youtube tv if not for a few specific channels my wife and I wanted. I thought I would be able to run Hulu live directly from my Samsung tv but it turned out that the sound was horrible (two channel stereo) through the Hulu app for Samsung. I got a Roku ultra for the heavier use tvs so I could hard wire it and Roku 4k sticks for the other tv's. The roku 4k stick also has much better wifi reception than the Samsung tv.
January 31st, 2020 at 1:37 PM ^
I've found the Rokus (admittedly the lower end Rokus) to be a little wonky in running YouTube TV. It works flawlessly on my FireStick and Chromecast though.
January 31st, 2020 at 1:38 PM ^
YTTV, Prime, Netflix full time + premium VOD (HBO, SHO, Disney, etc for a month here and there when a series comes to an end so I can binge shows I like then cancel). If done right far less $ than old cable with no hardware or contracts.
January 31st, 2020 at 1:49 PM ^
I was also a Vue user. Planning to sign up for YouTube tv as soon as I get home. Seems like the most logical choice.
January 31st, 2020 at 1:57 PM ^
We were all ready to switch to Hulu TV and then we realized that we don't watch live TV at all other than sports, which is basically Michigan football and a little basketball. So we are going to just go without TV for a few months, and probably not sign up again until the summer Olympics.
January 31st, 2020 at 1:58 PM ^
TBH ... an antenna in the attic for local HD channels. VPN ($3.50/mo), Kodi on firesticks and Raspberry Pi's to host the torrent media servers and IPTV app. Torrents with RSS feeds to autodownload any shows I follow (free). IPTV ($8/mo) for all sports channels, PPV, premium channels and cable channels imaginable. And Netflix ($9/mo) even though I can already get everything on it with my other options, but my fiance refuses to learn how technology works and can't figure out how to watch anything but Netflix and over-the-air channels when I'm not home. The media server is shared through all devices in my house, so I can have the same thing or different things on all 16 TVs in the house/garage/deck/pool etc..
$21.50/mo plus $39.99 for 75/15 broadband ... and a lot of time invested learning about Kodi, Smoothstreams, IPTV, rooting Firesticks, building RasPis, etc etc.