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The Other Kind Of Loss Comment Count

Brian October 21st, 2019 at 1:32 PM

10/19/2019 – Michigan 21, Penn State 28 – 5-2, 3-2 Big Ten

This was a hard game to have an opinion about. Get down 21-0, and the only possible thoughts are "here we go again" and "when can I turn this off?" Wisconsin 2.0 beckons. That colors most of the rest of the game.

Then Michigan's within a touchdown and Penn State hasn't moved the ball an inch for the whole second half. This is not another road hamblasting in which Michigan gets down big and stays down big. When the dust settles Michigan has in fact outgained Penn State by almost 150 yards; they nearly double Penn State's first down count.

It wasn't that game. It was a different game, and then you have to remember things. Swap the first and second halves and the Michigan fanbase is expending all spittle reserves roaring about the refereeing instead of deleting their Linked In accounts:

I don't know what kind of idiot puts their real name and phone number on an email to a football player telling him to quit, but if you find out please let me know.

Anyway: you have to remember things. Things like Michigan committing back to back offsides penalties to turn second and goal from the five into second and goal from the one. Or calling a timeout before the first play of the game. Or having two guys attempt to return one kickoff and getting clunked inside the 15. Or having an OL wandering 6 yards downfield on a pass. Or dropping several passes, or turfing the ball, etc. There were three different situations where Michigan had fourth and short near midfield and they didn't go.

Penn State's only second half offense came after a third and nine where Lavert Hill wrapped his arms around a guy who hadn't seen a target all day. Immediately after KJ Hamler got one on one coverage he was never supposed to:

“Second half, we didn’t get the call. We didn’t have the right defense. Players didn’t get the call, so we didn’t have a post safety.”

That was the winning touchdown: Michigan shooting itself in the foot. The game didn't have to end with Ronnie Bell dropping a tying touchdown that hit the middle of his chest, but once he did that's the way it had to end. Singling out the one error in a game stacked back to front with them is something only the kind of idiot who puts his real name and phone number on a shitty email would do. 

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This is progress of a sort, to be losing games you should win instead of games you have absolutely no chance of winning. But the season context reinforces how disappointing it's been: this should have been the weird road loss in which you lose your shirt in the first three minutes and spend an incredible amount of time looking for it—it's a SHIRT how do you just lose a SHIRT I SWEAR TO GOD IT WAS JUST HERE did one of the children PUT IT IN THE BLENDER they can't even reach the counter.

It should have been dumb and stupid things conspiring to trip up a team with big ideas. It should have been a harsh reality check that indicates Michigan's not as invincible as they seem.

Instead it's a game where Michigan loses in a blizzard of their own making and the rational post-game take is cautious optimism because that wasn't as bad as we all expected. That was their best performance of the year, the weird road game where you walk into the kitchen, forget why you went there in the first place, and end up making beef stew. You don't even like beef stew. In my world the thing you do with carrots that have been boiled for five hours is throw them out. And then you lose.

What was I taking about?

Right: cautious optimism about what? This loss leaves Michigan pretty much out of the Big Ten title race—the PSU-OSU winner would have to lose two games—and staring down the barrel of SP+ projections in which Michigan is expected to get 7.8 wins before schlepping off to a bowl game in Branson, Missouri.

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DOES NO ONE LEARN ABOUT THE APPROPRIATE NUMBER OF SIGNIFICANT DIGITS ANYMORE

I've reached the acceptance phase for most of this except for the people who wander into my mentions like so many ducks waiting to get sprayed, complaining that MGoBlog is too negative these days, like I should shoot heroin into my eyeballs and report that everything is sparkly. Well, it ain't.

[After THE JUMP: targets for Nico at least]

AWARDS

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Known Friends And Trusted Agents Of The Week

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-2535ac8789d1b4991f1c37dee-a502-44d9[1]#1 Nico Collins. Six* catches for 86* yards that was really 7 and ~130. No drops. The one he did not catch was way outside of his frame. He did run a route on a bubble screen that was going to go a long way if he got a block.

#2 The whole dang OL. Some issues on the ground, though I think a lot of that goes to the TEs and a couple of missed pulls. Nearly flawless in pass protection. PSU entered the game leading the nation in sacks, got up 21 points early, and Patterson ended up with approximately 45 dropbacks. He got sacked once and was rarely under pressure.

#3 Cam McGrone. Michigan didn't get a ton of pressure in this game; what they did came from McGrone; don't think he was at fault on the Slade run.

Honorable mention: Shea Patterson was last year Shea Patterson and suffered some drops that held his stats down, but an ugly INT was important. Zach Charbonnet broke some tackles and made some of his own yards. Kwity Paye was a force against the run.

KFaTAotW Standings

NOTE: New scoring! HM: 1 point. #3: 3 points. #2: 5 points. #1: 8 points. Split winners awarded points at the sole discretion of a pygmy marmoset named Luke.

14: Josh Uche (#3 MTSU, #3 Army, T2 Rutgers, #2 Illinois), Aidan Hutchinson(#1 Army, HM Rutgers, T1 Iowa, HM Illinois)
11: Jordan Glasgow (HM MTSU, T3 Iowa, #1 Illinois), Zach Charbonnet (#2 MTSU, #2 Army, HM PSU)
10:  Ambry Thomas (#1 MTSU, HM Rutgers, HM Illinois), Shea Patterson(HM MTSU, #1 Rutgers. HM PSU)
9: Nico Collins (HM Rutgers, HM Iowa, #1 PSU)
8: Kwity Paye (T2 Rutgers, T1 Iowa, HM PSU)
7: Cam McGrone(HM Rutgers, T3 Iowa, HM Illinois, #3 PSU)
6: Khaleke Hudson (#2 Iowa, HM Illinois)
5: Whole Dang OL(#2 PSU).
4: Ronnie Bell (HM Army, T3 Rutgers, HM Illinois)
3: Hassan Haskins (#3 Illinois)
2: DPJ (T3 Rutgers), Dax Hill(HM Rutgers, HM Iowa), Josh Metellus (HM Army, HM Iowa), Lavert Hill (HM Army, HM Iowa)
1: Will Hart (HM MTSU), Josh Ross (HM, MTSU), Sean McKeon (HM, MTSU),Brad Hawkins (HM Army), Christian Turner (HM Rutgers), Christian Turner (HM Rutgers), Nick Eubanks (HM Illinois)

Who's Got It Better Than Us(?) Of The Week

Michigan punches in a touchdown to make it 14-21 and hope blossoms.

 

Honorable mention: Ronnie Bell jukes a guy for a 35-yard bubble; Charbonnet gets a TD off that bubble action opening up Bell; all but approximately five PSU snaps.

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This is probably going to be a flat drop on a would-be tying touchdown on fourth down late in the fourth quarter. [opens envelope] yuuuup

Honorable mention: KJ Hamler things. Patterson throws an INT on a screen. DPJ has about 3 drops. The other two PSU snaps that got yards. Michigan calls timeout before the first play. Michigan tries a 58 yard field goal.

OFFENSE

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It made sense and fit together. Michigan got approximately one MAKE PLAYS item that didn't get wiped out by the officials. That was the Ronnie Bell bubble screen on which he dusted a guy and turned a would-be loss into first and goal. Charbonnet broke a couple tackles; 85% of everything else was earned by the play design and the blocking.

Michigan threw a bunch of bubble screens which were largely successful and would have been much more if Nico Collins hadn't run a route instead of block on one bubble that caught a blitz and super soft coverage; that was a 20-30 yard mistake.

Later the run game opened up a bit because Penn State was spending guys on the perimeter. It is not a coincidence that Charbonnet got an easy 12-yard TD on belly when the DE widened out—he was thinking about pursuing the bubble. That kind of conflict for profit has been exceedingly rare this year.

There were a couple of things that were frustrating but on a cursory initial rewatch this was probably the best gameplan of the year, and it didn't seem like Harbaugh hijacking the offense, it seemed like the mix of old and new that was what we wanted this offseason.

Okay but… the shots? While this gameplan was an improvement there was exactly one downfield shot taken, that the Collins completion overturned by a ludicrously bad OPI call. Every time you do this you get a ton of yards. In the game preview I noted that PSU was going to get it to their playmakers more often, and while that wasn't quite right on a per-snap basis, it was on an impact basis. PSU took four deep shots in this game and got completions on three; Michigan took just the one. I'll never understand this.

One of college football's greatest traditions. Ex-quarterbacks on color commentary exclaiming "there's nobody open!" while the skycam calls them a liar. We had a Joel Klatt item earlier this year. The Kirk Herbstreit edition from this game is an all-timer:

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yes this is a beat after the moment a rhythm throw should get out

This turned into the first DPJ drop-type substance where he caught the ball and then the safety punched the ball out the instant he secured it. So, yes, Patterson did a thing that could have been a completion. He had an opportunity to come off Black and throw to the wide open guy, which would not have given the PSU safety an opportunity to do anything but tackle after the catch. Patterson did a good job of rescuing a play that he messed up, and that throw had a lower EV than the programmed one.

In the aftermath of this game there are a lot of folks being rather zealous about defending Patterson; I get the impulse. I don't think it's quite right. He exceeded expectations set by the previous half-season. It should have been enough to get the game to overtime. It's still pretty frustrating to see the above and the FFS KEEP THE BALL read, which happened again in this game, and he's probably going to come in with 5-7 balls marked inaccurate in UFR.

He was better; he was still just okay.

Protection for days. Patterson was sacked once in this game, that by safety Garrett Taylor. On plays like the above screenshot he had forever to make a decision. That was a theme for the day against the team with the most sacks in the country. I thought going in that the tackles would have problems; they did not. Superb performance in pass pro.

On the ground… it was much iffier, oddly. My initial impression is that the tight ends had a terrible day. This will leak into initial OL assessments, naturally. It was pretty rough watching Patterson pull on the first drive and get to the edge only for Micah Parsons to run him down for two yards, and then skip back to see what was going on: Luke Schoonmaker had Parsons sealed and gone, and then he left for a hypothetical downfield block.

After beating up on the junior varsity last week Nick Eubanks had a number of plays where he was blown through by Shaka Toney, who is very much a WDE. (The junior varsity then held Jonathan Taylor to his worst output of the season and won 24-23. Sports!) Sean McKeon was a big miss in this game.

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Charbonnet. Good to see him break some tackles and have another couple of those subtle shifts in tight quarters that are tough for backs his size to do. I wonder if we'll ever find out what the injury issue was early in the season; I wonder if that affected him through this dolorous section of the season.

DEFENSE

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Yardage to points conversion. 283 yards. 28 points. Just like last week against Illinois, Penn State sandwiched a whole bunch of nothin' around four scoring drives. This is truly incredible:

  • Four TD drives: 254 yards.
  • 9 other drives: 62 yards*.

No Penn State drive was longer than six plays. PSU got three first downs on the other nine drives.

*[These include penalty yards and thus don't match the total yard stat cited just above.]

Cost of crossers. I haven't done the deep dive yet but I wonder if Michigan's first stop was related to the Hamler TD later. First stop: drag route from Hamler, Lavert Hill takes a couple steps inside as if he's in man, trailing it, and then he stops and drops on a zone; Hawkins then picks up the crosser and makes an instant tackle on the catch.

Later Hamler blazes by Hawkins on a slot fade for a touchdown. Harbaugh made it sound like that was not necessarily the plan

“They got us on a long one in the first half,” Harbaugh said. “Inside fade route, they had a good call on there. They got KJ (Hamler) on a safety, that was a good play."

…so I wonder if this is a cost of being more of a zone team. Harder to follow Hamler around with a guy like Lavert Hill if you're in a zone.

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The other big plays. The Dotson fade was obviously Thomas getting beat but mostly just a perfect throw; the Slade run was on the DTs and probably Khaleke Hudson for burying himself in the line; and given the Harbaugh quote above the second Hamler TD was Hawkins not playing in the deep middle.

So two of those are on Hawkins, except the first one was just Hawkins getting a horrible matchup he's probably not going to win.

Should have had more Dax. I don't believe that Dax Hill would be barely in the frame on the above photo. He did end up getting beat by Hamler once or twice, but then he tackled, because he was within tackling range. It seems like if there was a game to try the freshman who runs a 4.3 flat it was against the slot guy who also does that.

The other… game parts. Michigan didn't get a ton of pressure but Clifford bailed on a lot of plays that he didn't like, and aside from the Slade run Penn State's ground game went virtually nowhere. This has been PSU's pattern all season: they do nothing for large sections of the game and then hit a series of explosive plays to score. Iowa was the exception, because Iowa.

I do think Michigan's interior OL got a clear win, with the exception of the one play, and that would be a bonafide trend for Carlo Kemp if it bore out in the grading.

SPECIAL TEAMS

Don't try 58 yard field goals when you have a makeable fourth down. That is all.

MISCELLANEOUS

Facial hair of the week. I have no idea who this is but he is 100% PSU's strength coach.

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I hope he has them lifting spherical barbells and calls every beverage a "tonic".

Obligatory ref bitching. Good thing I'm in the acceptance stage, because if I was in anger, hoo boy. Michigan got boned on three massively important plays:

  • Pat Freiermuth pushes off to make Khaleke Hudson's very good coverage bad coverage, scoring a 17 yard TD instead of setting PSU up with 1st and 25 on the 32.
  • John Reid decides to turn into Tarik Black's backpack on a fourth down attempt, well before the ball arrives. No call, and instead of Michigan having a first down at the PSU ~30 they turn the ball over on downs.
  • Whatever the crap that was on the bomb to Collins.

That is easily eight points worth of WTF. Maybe you can expect to only get one of the Freiermuth/Collins calls, but for both of those to go to Penn State is a rogering.

Obligatory fourth down bitching. Michigan did special teams things in the following situations:

  • They punted on 4th and 1 from the PSU 47.
  • They tried a 58-yard field goal on 4th and 6 from the PSU 41.
  • The punted on 4th and 3 from the 50, down 14 with 5 minutes left in the third quarter.

All of those are wrong. You can maybe make a case for the field goal since there were 50 seconds left in the half… maybe. If Nordin is around, which he's not. The 4th and 1 on the opening drive is crazy, especially since you have a punter that puts a lot of punts in the endzone. He duly did, so Penn State got one first down and then Michigan started the next drive on their 15.

Even more absurd: punting on fourth and three down two touchdowns when you're about to have three more possessions the rest of the game.

I don't expect better than Harbaugh at this point. I do have to mention these things.

Frames! One mote of brightness in the darkness of the first half was James Franklin calling timeout with 21 seconds left so he had to punt the ball to DPJ. Could have run it down to three seconds and have a Hail Mary instead of punting to a guy with TDs the past two seasons.

HERE

There are some scenarios where Michigan can get to Indianapolis but they all require winning out in conference and unlikely results elsewhere.

Best and Worst:

Worst: Secret Yards

This diary is going to be focused less on nitty-gritty details of the game and more holistically on Michigan football in 2019. Feel free to skip it. There will be a ton of analysis this week on the X's and O's, and you aren't likely reading this because you expect some fantastic insights on that front. But I do want to focus on two numbers for a minute: 12 and 6.

In the first half of the game, Penn State's average starting field position was their 33; for Michigan it was their own 21. So over the 15 total drives during that first half, Michigan started over a first down deeper in their own end as Penn State. Perhaps not coincidentally, Michigan was down 21-7 at the half. In the second half, Michigan's average starting spot was their own 26, while PSU's was all the way back at their own 20 yard line. And if you're playing at home, Michigan wound up outscoring PSU by 7 (14-7) and were 3 yards and a dropped TD from a tie.

You hear all the time about hidden yards in games, how turnovers, special teams, and the vagaries of the game can obfuscate or accentuate differences in performance. Michigan nearly doubled PSU in first downs (26 to 14), had over 130 yards more in total offense (417 to 283), and dominated time of possession (37:45 to 22:15). But they lost because PSU had a 44-yard run by Ricky Slade, two KJ Hamler mismatches where he torched various safeties for TDs, and a half dozen questionable officiating calls that almost uniformly went to PSU's advantage. And that's basically how you lose a road game against a good team; you give them too many breaks and you let their limited punches land hard.

Where the program's at.

ELSEWHERE

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Maize and Blue Nation:

I don't know how often it happened last night, but it was more than twice. The DJ at Beaver Stadium blasted "Circle of Life" from the Lion King over the PA system. Aside from this being an odd choice, at least IMO...I've never heard another stadium do this and probably for good reason. I know they're the "Nittany Lions", but that kind of lion isn't the same kind of lion as the lion from the Lion King.
It's also a strange song to blast to a football crowd, right? Especially when you can just hit play on Zombie Nation for like the 150th time or whatever and whip the natives into a drunken white-clad frenzy.
Also, Michigan Stadium has Mufasa and Darth Vader doing their intro video...so...yeah!
Anyway, that's how I feel about that.

Hoover Street Rag:

There is a strain of Michigan fan I have seen, most frequently on Twitter, who is having a terrible time fathoming why Michigan isn't Michigan again in Year Five of Harbaugh.  Essentially, a "this is not what I signed up for" sort of breakdown that looks at all of the ways in which Michigan is failing to live up to its historical grandiosity.  I understand that feeling on a primal level, that this is just another false messiah after a decade and a half of wandering in the desert.  Though some may accuse me of setting up a straw man, if you've been on Michigan Twitter, you more than likely have seen someone like this or you have the best curated follow list I've ever seen.
I'm not going to call this a moral victory, because it's not and because Michigan shouldn't do the moral victory thing.  It's a loss.  It's another brick in the narrative about Harbaugh's teams.  It's plenty of evidence to those who want it that Michigan cannot beat teams of equal or superior talent, especially on the road.  Acknowledged.

Comments

AlbanyBlue

October 21st, 2019 at 2:06 PM ^

There are analytics charts for fourth downs, and they're very extensive. Harbaugh clearly cannot make correct seat of the pants decisions on fourth down. Someone get him a chart and convince him to use it. Going by the chart robotically will make most of the decisions correct.

A major part of my frustration is that a significant part of our problems is due to coaching mistakes, or lack of coaching ability, that just should not happen at all. Let alone with coaches of Harbaugh's supposed caliber. He's just not a good in-game coach - I don't mean average, but flat-out bad. Horrible. Can't manage a two-minute drill to save his life. Knows game theory about as well as a three-year-old. These are aspects that have to be in the arsenal of quality modern football coaches.

Don't get me wrong. He's a quality coach. For 1987.

 

Bluegriz

October 21st, 2019 at 2:09 PM ^

Was it possible to save the last timeout and force a punt? Or was there too little time left.

Rather than waste your last timeout on a challenge that wasn't really very close.

Go Blue in MN

October 21st, 2019 at 3:18 PM ^

Once they moved the chains, the clock would have started without a challenge and we would have needed to call the time out anyway, right?  So there was no reason not to challenge because the "penalty" for losing it was what we were going to do anyway -- call a timeout.  Maybe I'm missing something, as the announcers sure thought we should not have challenged.

B-Nut-GoBlue

October 21st, 2019 at 3:43 PM ^

Oh man they almost had me convinced I was losing it when going on about that. I was baffled.  I get it, we all think on-air people should never make mistakes and always think clearly and that was a moment some math was involved with the clock theory, etc.. But yea still, that was strange them going on about that TO usage.

Ty Butterfield

October 21st, 2019 at 2:12 PM ^

I was in the fire Harbaugh camp but basically we would all be here in 3 or 4 seasons wanting that coach fired. Keep Harbaugh and Gattis and let Gattis keep installing his offense. Give him a whole offseason with the players and maybe we will see some real progress. 

TrueBlue2003

October 21st, 2019 at 4:46 PM ^

MSU is going to be terrible next year.  They lose just about everyone from their front seven which is the only redeeming quality of an already mediocre team. Their recruiting has been abysmal such that they just won't have the reinforcements this time.

That should be a game Michigan dominates (like is mostly has the last two games in EL).

At Minnesota actually looks like the third toughest game of the season. PSU at home will be tough with them returning a lot of guys.

But even if you lose to Washington or Minnesota, the season should set up just like last year: with The Game being for the division and a playoff spot still at stake.

No reason Michigan can't win that.  OL should continue to be good.  Finally have depth there that should step right into starting roles.  QB could (should) be better.  If one or both of Mazi Smith and/or Hinton makes a sophomore leap, the defense could be really, really good with most guys returning.  Really hope Don Brown comes back...that's maybe the most important recruiting job JH will have this offseason.

matty blue

October 21st, 2019 at 2:13 PM ^

man...this season has been bad luck bad luck bad luck.  have we gotten any breaks?  at all?  i honestly can't think of too many, between the weird fumble luck and the rogering from refs...

i think the bad breaks have colored what we think about the team and the season...which is also why i think we can make a run over the next four games.

michigan 34, notre dame 21.

TrueBlue2003

October 21st, 2019 at 4:52 PM ^

You could argue we got super lucky against Army who decided to throw the ball on 3rd and goal instead of running twice which almost certainly would have put them up 21-7 and almost certainly would have been game over.  Instead they threw a pick.

When they were down, there I was just thinking, Michigan needs a miracle here.  And they got one.

Logan88

October 21st, 2019 at 5:40 PM ^

You could also argue that Michigan got super screwed when the officials blew the play dead on Army's fumble in the first half which would have been a scoop-and-score TD for UM. Instead, UM turned the ball over on the ensuing possession, which should have never taken place had the officials not screwed up.

readyourguard

October 21st, 2019 at 2:13 PM ^

How is every decent OC able to exploit our weakness on defense (Urban calls them 'the fish' ie. our safeties) and take full advantage, yet we can never seem to do the same?  

DamnYankee

October 21st, 2019 at 2:46 PM ^

This exactly.  I think part of it is our mostly man-to-man scheme allows it.  Good OC's get us into unfavorable match-ups and exploit them. Why was Mettellus on Hamler?  Last year, OSU identified our slowest DB and picked us apart.  Hell, I go back to Don Brown's first year in the Bowl game against FSU.  We saw their All-American RB, Dalvin Cook, go in to motion and I see Mike McCray follow him and it turns into a TD.  

MarcusBrooks

October 21st, 2019 at 5:52 PM ^

going into this game I was 100% convinced they would have Dax Hill follow Hamler everywhere, even into the porta john. instead we had one of the worst coverage safeties trying to cover a guy with elite speed. 

that plan was doomed from the start, Hawkins isn't winning that either. 

not sure how our staff thought that was a good plan OR how "someone didn't get the play call" 

WHY NOT? the 1 TD from Hamler came after a penalty, plenty of time to get the playcall into them. 

GoBlueTal

October 21st, 2019 at 2:14 PM ^

"complaining that MGoBlog is too negative these days, like I should shoot heroin into my eyeballs and report that everything is sparkly. Well, it ain't."

Brian - there's a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE space in between heroin-delusions and your commentary the last year or so.  No one intelligent wants you to lie to us.  No one is helped by your having apparently having killed Henri the otter, and eaten his heart in order to take his spirit into yourself.  Things are not as bad as you say, things are not happy as Pollyanna.  Both perspectives suck sweaty overworked scabrous old sacs of walrus ... nevermind.  Find a way to get back to self-honesty.  Or at least an exorcism, and go apologize to Henri's family.

smwilliams

October 21st, 2019 at 2:27 PM ^

I think BPONE is one of those things that got out of control, and honestly it’s made this blog and forum and general Michigan analysis unreadable sometimes. 
 

Let’s go back one year. Michigan has curb stomped 3 straight ranked opponents and is on their way to 10-1 and a CFP spot for the 2nd time in 3 years. I think the way last year ended left everyone in this constant state of negativity where every win comes with caveats and every loss is a referendum on the program and Harbaugh as a coach.

I get it. The past 4.5 years have been a big tease. But, if you can’t even be excited when Michigan destroys an overmatched Rutgers team because it’s Rutgers then what’s the point? Or beating a higher ranked Iowa. 
 

Since Jim Harbaugh took over, Michigan is tied for 10th among all P5+ND teams in wins. They have 2 NY6 appearances. Only Bama, Clemson, OSU, Oklahoma, Washington, and Georgia have more than that. 
 

Michigan is a level below an elite program right now, but there better off than 95% of college football. Is it ideal? No. But I prefer it to losing 30-14 to Minnesota at home. Or losing to Toledo. Or any of the other shit that was really worth complaining about.

 

Ultimately, they need to beat Ohio State this year in the worst way. 9-3 with a win over them and either ND or MSU would brighten things up I have to imagine.

aiglick

October 21st, 2019 at 2:17 PM ^

I mean this season isn’t over. Even if Michigan doesn’t get the breaks it needs from other games we can still go 9-3 or even 10-2. Considering all the gnashing of teeth that would be a pretty good season. Also, I think PSU is susceptible to a couple of losses especially on the road and Wisconsin has the talent to beat OSU even though they’ll be disadvantaged. The Wisconsin-OSU point spread shouldn’t be 30 which is approximately what it was for Wisconsin-Illinois. Sports!

TrueBlue2003

October 21st, 2019 at 4:56 PM ^

PSU will lose two more games.  No question in my mind.  They aren't that good and have to go to MSU, Minn, and OSU.

It's OSU losing a game before The Game that I just don't see (not to mention they'll have to beat PSU for one of PSU's loses).  They look intent on not blowing an easy game like they did the last couple years.

It's all up to Wisconsin winning at the shoe this weekend, which ehhhhhhh, c'mon Bucky!  I suppose OSU hasn't played anyone with much of a pulse (MSU is their best opponent?) so here's hoping.

Blue Vet

October 21st, 2019 at 2:17 PM ^

"Instead it's a game where Michigan loses in a blizzard of their own making and the rational post-game take is cautious optimism because that wasn't as bad as we all expected."

Speaking of expectations, as Brian and others have pointed out, pre-season projections ranged from the eagerly hopeful "finally we're winning it all!" to eh-it's-a-tough-schedule-maybe-8-wins.

Blue Vet

October 21st, 2019 at 2:20 PM ^

Brian, like others here, I have lots of advice to give. First, though I have to contact Harbaugh to give him my advice. Just waiting for him to call to ask me.

HollywoodHokeHogan

October 21st, 2019 at 4:13 PM ^

That he's made one kick from that range and it was back High School gives you a pretty good understanding of how unlikely he was to make that kick.  I thought we were faking the FG and was worried because the fake seemed too obvious (because who the fuck would kick a 58 yarder in that situation!).  

bronxblue

October 21st, 2019 at 2:25 PM ^

I thought Patterson missed a couple of throws in this game he should have made; I also think PSU only picking up 1 sack is due to him bugging out of pockets that weren't nearly as clean as some people thought they were.  And yes, that's absolutely a time Patterson could have thrown, but 7 guys in coverage and only three guys running routes isn't a fantastic ratio.  Guys throw picks in those situations a lot, and no amount of out-of-context "41% of picks in the NFL don't matter" will change that (mostly because if you actually look at most of those picks they considered in that 41% they were late in games, usually blowouts one way or the other).

Yes Harbaugh should have gone for it on 4th-and-1 near midfield; I don't know why he balked there.  The kick is meh; maybe you convert there maybe you don't.  It sounded like they thought Moody had hit from there earlier during warm-ups.  The last punt I actually didn't mind because they were able to trap PSU inside their own 20; the defense had been dominating PSU for some time and you're playing for field position there a bit.  I know the math says you should always go for it, but I can get in-game context overriding that.

I hear the acceptance phase is the most fun because people just sorta shrug and have a bit more fun on the podcast.  I'll take it.

Partial.Derivatives

October 21st, 2019 at 5:00 PM ^

I agree with your sentiment. Where I disagree is the fourth down calls. All of them were instances of go for it. The last case you bring up about the defense stopping PSU is more of a reason to go for it. Making matters worse, PSU doesn't turnover the football. They are in the top 10 in fewest turnovers lost. So the chances of getting a turnover aren't better than the chances of scoring with the field position you're already in. He messed up, that isn't questionable but it's not the end of the world. People dropped passes, missed block assignments, bad throws, etc. 

Cranky Dave

October 21st, 2019 at 2:26 PM ^

I did like seeing a  coherent offense punishing the blitzing with bubbles then getting back to the run.  A glimpse into what the offense could be...except for 3 or 4 huge mistakes which seems to be the norm this year.  Cautiously optimistic I suppose that against ND, MSU or OSU it will all come together and score more than 30 points.

Same on defense, let Hamler loose against safeties 1 on 1, a long run by Brown and otherwise lights out. 

My expectations are losses to ND and OSU for an 8-4 season and Outback Bowl, hooray!

kehnonymous

October 21st, 2019 at 2:36 PM ^

I'm at the point of profound ambivalence.

On one hand there's a silver lining to the same stale fartcloud that we didn't crumple after getting punched in the mouth; we rallied, were back in it until the bitter end, and maybe found something to build on for the rest of the season.  On the other hand, there's a familiar voice at the back of your head telling you that this is another cache of fool's gold, that we're really just in line for more of the same and our gallantry in defeat was just a ruse to lure us back in the fold.  That another curbstomping would've made large swaths of the fanbase check out, and it's far more cruel to string us along.

And once again, I find myself straddling both of these mutually exclusive mindstates.

Drew Henson's Backup

October 21st, 2019 at 2:41 PM ^

Singling out the one error in a game stacked back to front with them is something only the kind of idiot who puts his real name and phone number on a shitty email would do.

And the combination on his luggage is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

Chris S

October 21st, 2019 at 2:42 PM ^

Count me as one of the ones who feels obligated to defend Shea Patterson. I thought he should have been the #1 Known Friend and Trusted Agent. He played his ass off and kept us in the game. Mistakes are whatever. He was the best player on the field Saturday in my opinion.

I know it's me being a homer and not really analyzing like you do. Just really proud of the kid to bounce back like this.

GBBlue

October 21st, 2019 at 4:18 PM ^

I thought Shea had a very good game. He put the team on his back, and it almost worked. For the most part, he made good decisions, and they came more quickly than I've seen from him in the past. On the last play, Ronnie was his second read, and the ball was thrown perfectly where only Ronnie could get it. If that play goes the way it would 80% of the time, Shea is a hero. Brian, sometimes with justification, sometimes not, has a bee in his bonnet about Shea. This game, Brian is wrong.

Gulogulo37

October 21st, 2019 at 8:39 PM ^

Mistakes are whatever? Definitely not. No one has even mentioned that screen he tried throwing to Charbonnet but threw poorly because he was weirdly jumping straight up with his feet together. He looked so lost. But yes, he turned things around quite a bit. Hopefully he can do that for an entire game next week.

BasementDweller2018

October 21st, 2019 at 2:45 PM ^

Harbaugh talks about excellence but doesn't demand it.

Harbaugh talks about paying attention to detail but his teams never show it. 

Harbaugh talks about steeling one's spine but his teams consistently lack one.

Harbaugh's constant rosey outlook during the course of mediocre season after season is the problem with this program. The time for building up the players through relentless positivity has come and gone. 

NittanyFan

October 21st, 2019 at 2:55 PM ^

One game theory question that I have legitimately seen nobody talk about yet - should Michigan have attempted a Field Goal on the 4th-and-4 from the PSU 27?  There was 5:20 left in the game at that point.

Yes, it wasn't a gimme field goal.  And even with a made field goal, PSU could have scored a TD on a next drive to basically put it away.  

But make the kick and stop PSU and it's 28-24 and U-M with the ball, and a chance to win, not just tie.  It's unlikely PSU can bleed out the entire 5:20 of clock remaining.

I don't know.  Maybe I'm thinking of it wrong and the analytics say that I am 100% completely wrong.  But I thought it was a legitimate question at the time.