Sam Webb on Malik Mcdowell
February 2nd, 2014 at 9:37 AM ^
February 2nd, 2014 at 9:50 AM ^
Would like to have Malik but his recruitement is getting pretty overrated right now. There's more attention than he would normally get because he's local, Sparty is our primary opposition, and he's the last moving part in the class.
We're top 10 in average stars and will be close to that regardless of how the next several days unfold.
February 2nd, 2014 at 9:55 AM ^
He wouldn't say exactly what, but Sam Webb on WTKA this morning said that something happened during McDowell's official visit to MSU that opened his recruitment up completely to other schools. He said if he wrote a story about it would be "salacious" and would make national headlines. It sounds like his parents have good reason to steer him away from East Lansing.
February 2nd, 2014 at 9:55 AM ^
February 2nd, 2014 at 10:38 AM ^
I think her name was something like "Tiffany" or "Amber" or "Star".
February 2nd, 2014 at 11:56 AM ^
I was there. The names were Destiny and Cheyenne.
February 2nd, 2014 at 10:08 AM ^
February 2nd, 2014 at 10:21 AM ^
because Malik wanted to, or what happened made his parents really want it opened up? I'm guessing the latter but not totally clear from post.
February 2nd, 2014 at 10:45 AM ^
Good question. I don't want to characterize it either way. Listen to the podcast yourself and make your own judgment: link (skip to 0:30).
I should clarify what I wrote above: Sam didn't say that something salacious happened on the visit, he said that the story he could write about the visit would be salacious and "devastating" to MSU. But again, I encourage people to listen to the podcast, rather than rely on my summary.
EDIT: I should have noted that what Sam said in that link posted above was a follow-up to his more detailed discussion of McDowell earlier on the show. For that part, see this podcast (skip to around 1:00).
EDIT2: I should also emphasize that whatever happened on the visit, Sam says that McDowell might still pick MSU. All four finalists are still in the running.
February 2nd, 2014 at 10:49 AM ^
I still think MM is bound for MSU. If he doesn't come to UM, I'd rather him go down to FSU.
February 2nd, 2014 at 10:54 AM ^
February 2nd, 2014 at 11:12 AM ^
Wow, Sam sounds exactly like Jalen Rose on his broadcasts.
February 2nd, 2014 at 11:24 AM ^
February 2nd, 2014 at 10:46 AM ^
Sam gave the strong impression this morning that whatever happened was a factor insofar as Malik's parents were concerned, rather than being Malik's reaction.
Sam used the term "blow the doors off" several times as a description of what happened to the notion that MSU had pretty much locked up Malik and shut the door to other schools.
It's hard for me to believe that MSU would have done something officially or unofficially during the visit that would have engendered such a reaction from MM's parents, but recruiting does crazy things to people.
February 2nd, 2014 at 11:18 AM ^
Quite obvious to me that they got him a hooker.....
February 2nd, 2014 at 11:23 AM ^
February 2nd, 2014 at 3:58 PM ^
I read through this whole worthless thread trying to find out what happened on his official. Nothing. Sam made it sound like it was the person State brought in to position as his role model...? Supposedly MSU had a slam dunk, and this person "Blasted the doors open" for other schools...?
Did they bring in Charles Rogers? Cole Corey? "Tom" Gholston? Adreian Payne?
February 2nd, 2014 at 10:06 AM ^
It would be interesting to know the status of graduates, or ex-players who did not graduate, who were on football scholarships at the two schools but did not go on to pro football. By "status", I mean solid, hard, data on their current situation, not just anecdotal evidence.
If those outcomes really mattered to schools, those schools should have that information and be able to make it available to recruits.
I graduated from UofM and it was a big deal in securing one particular position, but with time, it's what have you accomplished in your career that matters most to prospective employers.
February 2nd, 2014 at 4:16 PM ^
http://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report-2014/best-schools-by-type/state-schools
But a degree from Michigan(vs MSU) generally means $10,000 more per year at graduation, shrinking to $6,000 more per year as your career progresses.
February 2nd, 2014 at 10:27 AM ^
February 2nd, 2014 at 10:32 AM ^
Academics at UM are better but not significantly better; OSU is a pretty decent school. When it comes to football, they (and FSU) kick our ass. Meyer and Mattison have both sent a number of DL to the NFL, so that could be considered a draw.
However, I believe the presence of Larry Johnson Jr., who may be one of, if not the best, DL coaches in the country, will away MM to OSU. It would be unfortunate.
February 2nd, 2014 at 10:44 AM ^
Are we taking our recruits to canasta parties when they visit ???????
All of the discussion here about the reputation of MSU vs UM with employers seems to miss an important fact. The employer many football players are interested in being hired by is the NFL.
February 2nd, 2014 at 12:54 PM ^
February 2nd, 2014 at 11:02 AM ^
If a FBS school offers a young man the opportunity to play football in exchange for a full scholarship and that young man accepts by signing a letter of intent, is that process not akin to an employment contract? If the school directs that young man's course of study into, say, general studies, and supervises his study time to maintain his eligibilty in that course of study, is this not requiring that the young man adhere to certain employer-mandated performance standards, much like an employee would have to do? And if the coaching staff tells the young man when he needs to appear for meetings and practice (including, perhaps, suggesting that he participate in unsupervised summer practice) and, for example, even when, how much time, and what type of exercises he needs to do in the weight room, is this not further evidence of supervising and directing job performance?
It'll be interesting to see what the NLRB has to say about all this. I'm not saying that the NU players will gain recognition as a union --- I don't, at least not at this point. But the findings that issue from those proceedings will provide a blueprint for what both parties will need to do in the future to either gain or fend off recognition. Directing players toward and away from certain majors will be an important factor in all this, IMO.
February 2nd, 2014 at 12:15 PM ^
February 2nd, 2014 at 11:38 AM ^
February 2nd, 2014 at 12:10 PM ^
Reading Webb's article and some of the comments from the parents, you can color him gone.
We need to move on.
February 2nd, 2014 at 12:50 PM ^
February 2nd, 2014 at 1:02 PM ^
I'm not so intuitive as to know what school he'll choose. As a life long Michigan fan though I may relate some to the parents. And to the degree that's true, if the writing is on the wall that he's not interested in Michigan I can see them pushing him toward FSU as a way to soften the blow.
February 2nd, 2014 at 1:52 PM ^
Also considering the party atmosphere at State, hasn't the quality gone down pretty quick? At least that's what I've heard. I've heard it's nothing like it used to be.
February 2nd, 2014 at 4:53 PM ^
I read this as though he has decided on MSU and his parents are disappointed. "You’ve got to open up and not be so stuck with Michigan State that you’re not even seeing anything else” is what you say about someone who is not seeing anything else. He will choose which scholarship offer to accept, not his parents.
Furthermore, this is totally messed up of his parents. You don't insult your kid's decision-making to the press. Keep it in the family. The whole article made McDowell sound like a child who wants to party. Even if that's true, his parents should not harm his reputation by saying that in public.
February 2nd, 2014 at 5:02 PM ^
February 2nd, 2014 at 9:47 PM ^
February 3rd, 2014 at 9:28 AM ^
I noticed the other day that Malik's mother was not at the house when MSU was there. I thought it was kind of strange at this point in the process. Maize N Brew had the answer in an article by Anthony Mammel. Link
Apparently Malik's mother hates MSU so much she refused to meet with them. While Anthony felt that may favor FSU, I have also heard that Malik's father thinks Malik will stay closer to home to make it easier for his grandparents to see him play.
We will see soon. It seems like their may be a number of things going in Michigan's favor. I am still worried about Ohio State making the late run.