Charge of Block - what say you?
The CBS and ESPN talking heads seem to think that the Morgan charge was a block with Dick Vitale being the lone person who thinks it was a charge. What do you think?
I'm of the opinion that the refs have no clue how to make that call, it is now used as a crutch by many teams defensively (including Michigan), and that home teams get 75% of them. With that being said, I thought it was the right call. Morgan moved his feet slightly after the player left the ground, but he was there waiting when that guy drove into his chest and it didn't even really seem that close.
I think by the letter of the law it was probably a block, but the way it has been called all season that's probably a charge 80% of the time. Thoughts?
My opinion? Refs suck.
Monday night.
I think we are going to the National Championship game on Monday.
...is what I think.
Would anyone like to join me in thinking this?
Me! Me! I would like to think this, so I do!
Screw it... Not now... I still need to embrace the fact that we are in the National Championship game. No controversy... SUBS
It's a charge, because that's what the ref said. Always a crap shoot, went our way this time.
just like in baseball, it isn't a strike or a ball until the umpire calls it. It can be in the dirt, but if the ump calls it a strike, it's a strike. If the ref calls it a charge, it's a charge!! 'Nuf said!
I don't know what people are talking about, that seemed like a pretty easy charge call. Dude was out of control and Morgan was in near-perfect position
Charles Barkley can suck a fat baby's dick.
"Interesting" is one word for it.
If "interesting" means "deeply disturbing" then I think it is right on the money.
I say that God wanted us to win and made the ref make up for the constant mugging Syracuse put on us pretty much all the 2nd half.
Live and full speed it's obviously a charge. Slow motion replay maaaaaaaybe it's a block.
This. I stood up and called charge before the ref did. Obvious charge was obvious.
This. No doubt when it happened that it was a charge. On slo-mo, I could see it going either way. I'll say this...Brandon Triche should be driving under control in that situation and should not even remotely put hmself in a position to get an offensive foul. 'Nuf said.
Exactly right. In real time, no question it was a charge. Watching it in slo-mo 12 times, it could go either way. But Trice is recklessly in the air and not looking at the defense at all. His lack of body control forces the ref to make that call. Do we now need to look at every other call, or non-call, and break down the film to get a total "bad call count" for both sides? It is asinine to take this "one bad call" approach to analyzing the game, the talking heads should know better, and bad on Boeheim for talking about the officiating.
It was 50/50 and Syracuse was fortunate to even be in the game.
This x 1000
It was a 50/50 call but I felt the refs screwed us on a couple calls in the 2nd half, and gave us two big make up calls (this being one of them).
but gets called a charge more than half the time.
Exactly it was a block. He slid into place once the shooter was already in the air. If your questioning a call as a fan of the team it benefitted it probably was a bad call.
My thoughts? It dont fucking matter!!
It did not win Michigan the game. There was time left, Michigan made the plays post-call. It's simply ridiculous to claim that call was why Michigan won.
It's a Monday night game!
Before the offensive player (with the ball) becomes airborne, the defender must have two feet on the floor, be facing the opponent and be stationary to draw a charge. Otherwise, it should be a blocking foul.
Secondary defenders (help defenders) moving forward or to the side are also in violation and those should be blocking fouls.
Contact that is “through the chest” is not de facto proof of a charge. The rule in its entirety must be considered before determining a foul.
In some cases, it appears a defender is being rewarded solely for being outside the arc, without considering the other aspects of the rules.
You do not have to be stationary, nor do you have to have your feet on the floor. That is a misconception.
By definition, a charge occurs when the offensive player "pushes or moves into a defender's torso." The defender obviously has to have his torso facing the offensive player and should not be the one to initiate contact, but there is no stipulation that he must not be moving at all.
Here's an article with citations to the rules:
http://www.rockmnation.com/2012/2/19/2810052/inside-the-ncaa-basketball…
It was a charge.
Particularly Artcle 4 sections a and d.
FWIW, it looked like a clear charge real time to me. In slo mo, I can see where he may be sliding a bit but Triche was out of control and I think that's why it was called a charge.
OK, I stand corrected about the feet on the floor - I'm almost positive I've have heard referees say it's not an issue, but maybe I'm misremembering. But I disagree with you about (d) - Morgan was in a legal defensive positive position. There is nothing illegal about moving laterally.
In any event, Morgan beat him to the spot (and was outside the circle) and Triche was out of control. It could have been a no-call, but to call it a block would have been a reach.
and I'm probably super-biased too. If I was a fan of Syracuse I'd probably be 100% sure the other way.
But, compared to the Duke flops I've seen over the years - this actually looks like a charge to me too...
Well, Morgan was still moving when Triche was in the air, so it was obviously a TITLE GAME ON MONDAY NIGHT BITCHES!!!1!
You can defend the call as a charge much more than you can defend it as a block. Therefore, charge.
It's been called a charge a million times.
Sucks that the refs are going to be blamed for both Louisville and Michigan winning even though both teams had leads and the other teams would've had to make shots and get at least one more stop.
It could have gone either way, so I think a no call would have been appropriate.