OT: Chance Stewart commits to Wisconsin
According to Steve Wilfong, Chance Stewart just committed to Wisconsin. Stewart is a four-star quarterback from Sturgis (MI) in the 2014 class. It appeared that he was one of the guys in the running for a Michigan offer along with Kizer, Key, Henderson and others.
Wisconsin recruits QB's?
I believe they recruited Navarre as a DE.
will find out, he'll be batteling JUCOs and 5th year transfers his whole career.
August 2nd, 2012 at 11:27 AM ^
Their 2012 class had Bart Houston, a somewhat highly regarded QB from De La Salle HS in Concord, CA (Matt Gutierrez's HS). So, it looks like Wiscy is starting to up their game finally in QB recruiting.
August 2nd, 2012 at 12:12 PM ^
Kind of funny...They all want to play in that Wisconsin offense but the engineer of those great offenses and a great coach in his own right, Paul Chryst, is no longer there!
As long as the offensive line coach is still there they'll be okay. Paul Chryst wasn't reinventing the wheel by handing the ball to a heisman candidate and then running play action roll outs off of it with Russell Wilson.
They lost almost their entire offensive coach staff to Pitt in Jan.
New Oline coach is Mike Markuson
"Markuson replaces Bob Bostad, who served as run-game coordinator as well as offensive line coach before taking a job at Pittsburgh. Markuson appears to be an ideal candidate to serve as run-game coordinator at UW."
August 2nd, 2012 at 11:04 AM ^
Given PSU will be about as good as a community college team for the foreseeable future, I am OK with a strong Wisconsin so Ohio State can’t knife through their pathetic division each year like a hot knife through warm butter, while we batter and bruise ourselves against MSU, Nebraska and Iowa. Go Cheeseheads.
Good pickup for them, Wonder if he would reconsider if he gets a UM offer. What is our coaches plann for QB in 2014?
RS FR Shane Morris
RS So Russel Bellomy
FR Whoever they pick up
In the event that Devin Gardner gets his medical redshirt, he'd still be on the team in 2014 as a fifth-year senior.
That's true, but recent "insider" info says that Michigan doesn't expect him to get a fifth year.
August 2nd, 2012 at 10:29 AM ^
I have a hypothetical question, for the board in general, not just Magnus. Let's say Gardner plays a lot at WR this season and does a good to great job at it. Does he stay at WR next year with Bellomy taking over for QB?
August 2nd, 2012 at 10:31 AM ^
Maybe. But then you've only got two quarterbacks. It's risky but it might be worth it if Bellomy is the better QB.
That makes sense. I was kind of assuming Gardner would be the better QB, and sort of weighing how much of an upgrade at WR would Gardner have to be to warrant moving him permanently and going with (what would have to be only a slightly) less good QB.
But now that I've kind of articulated my thinking, it seems crazy that a team would downgrade their QB play in order to get an extra WR, even if he is good. Plus, hopefully the WR situation won't look as bad going into 2013.
You can always move him to WR and if injuries occur, back to QB. Obviously he wouldn't be practicing at QB, but what are the odds two QBs go down with injuries? (knocks on wood)
August 2nd, 2012 at 11:31 AM ^
August 2nd, 2012 at 11:41 AM ^
And so is our current starting quarterback.
August 2nd, 2012 at 12:12 PM ^
I've assumed that all along about Gardner. It never made sense that we'd have to wait until the end of his fourth year to find out if he's eligible for a redshirt his first year when we have guys like Jon Horford (in basketball) apparently having already gotten his redshirt.
I can't imagine that Garder could get a redshirt for 2010 when we continued to dress him every week until the last couple of games of the season. We didn't even list him in our informal weekly injury reports. That was just not well thought-out.
August 2nd, 2012 at 12:37 PM ^
Another genius long-term strategy by RR. Burn one of your five-star QB's seasons for the sake of a handful of plays during a terrible season.
August 2nd, 2012 at 12:50 PM ^
But hey, it did straighten Tate Forcier out and get him to focus.
/s
It wasn't the right call at the time. The right call is one that helps the program, not to win a game or two.
August 2nd, 2012 at 10:52 AM ^
They're reportedly planning to review film of a few quarterbacks' first several games of the season, and then they'll offer one guy (or a couple) that they really want.
I know that they are real high on Caleb Henderson, no offer yet, but I could see him getting one.
August 2nd, 2012 at 11:28 AM ^
Does that mean we should expect the first offers to go out mid september? I'm not sure when most HS start their season.
August 2nd, 2012 at 11:40 AM ^
Some start at the end of August. Some start in September. The coaches want three game films, so it will be roughly three weeks into September plus a few days for film transmission/review (if they stick to their plan). So yeah, I would expect the first offers to come out by the end of September.
I love it when my informative posts get labeled flamebait. So much hate...
August 2nd, 2012 at 11:25 AM ^
So what you are saying is because they got Chance Stewart, Wisconsin is going to get Da'Shawn Hand?!
Damn! We missed out!
/s
But this is a convenient place to ask: any speculations as to how many OL they go after? Probably no way of offering more than a guess, but what do informed fans think? 4 OL?
I'm comfortable with them taking their time on offering rising juniors. Best of luck to Stewart, but I do wonder how set in stone the commitment is.
Coleman Key
Key was supposedly told that he was their number one target, so I'm wondering if that pushed Stewart into committing to Wisconsin.
Key was at the BBQ but didn't leave with an offer. Also, Tyler Wiegers from Detroit Country Day was there too and Caleb Henderson was there the day before that. I think that there are a couple of QBs in the running.
Is he a pro-style qb?
I think he saw the writing on the wall that it was a long shot that Michigan was going to offer him. Michigan looks like they are going to be taking their time in evaluating the 2014 QBs, and it has seemed like Stewart has not been a priority so far. The coaches saw him at camp so I am assuming he knew where he stood after that.
I don't even know if he was going to get an MSU offer. MSU has already offered 2015 QB Tyler O'Connor but not Stewart, and MSU will have 3 QBs on the roster from the the 3 classes ahead of Stewart (2011, 2012, & 2013). It's possible MSU doesn't take a QB in 2014.
August 2nd, 2012 at 10:07 AM ^
Tyler O'Connor is actually a 2011 recruit, so he'll graduate from State in 2015. They will have 3 QBs on their roster in 2014 (Cook, O'Connor and Terry), but they've already put out an offer to Caleb Henderson and have also had DeShone Kizer on campus recently, so it looks like they want someone in the 2014 class.
August 2nd, 2012 at 10:18 AM ^
They put an offer out to 2015 Michael O'Connor from Canada, who also has some Michigan interest. I think that might be what he meant.
August 2nd, 2012 at 11:01 AM ^
Got my O'Connors mixed up. I meant Michael O'Connor. The fact MSU offered a 2015 QB before him would be a warning sign for Chance Stewart if he was considering MSU.
August 2nd, 2012 at 10:08 AM ^
Agreed on Stewart. The coaches offered Morris earlier in his high school career than they would have offered Stewart. An in-state kid with the chops to play at Michigan would seem like a no-brainer...unless the coaches aren't sold on him as a prospect. I think Stewart might be a little too much of a pocket quarterback. He's kind of a John Navarre-type statue.
August 2nd, 2012 at 10:01 AM ^
August 2nd, 2012 at 10:03 AM ^
But I called this in the Helmholdt thread two days ago. I'm awesome.
Oh, no one cares, okay.......
August 2nd, 2012 at 10:18 AM ^
You're more awesome than Helmholdt, that's for sure.
August 2nd, 2012 at 10:41 AM ^
August 2nd, 2012 at 10:06 AM ^
With the QB position, I don't think it is an optimal policy to attempt to sign a highly-ranked QB every year (i.e. high 4-star or 5-star). All players look at depth charts -- they may say they don't and that they just want to compete for the job, but when you are a QB, you don't want to be stuck in a Griese/Brady/Henson logjam. Further, if you aim to sign a 5-star every year, it seems like you expect to have a different starter every season (as long as everyone pans out). The starter will always seem to be the senior (who has the most experience), while the other 5-stars are getting "groomed".
If you tried alternating recruiting superstars and high 3-stars / low 4-stars, I think you'll end up with a better batch of recruits in the long run. If you alternated at a 1-to-1 pace, then you are forecasting that each 5-star will start for TWO years, while the other QB will see spot duty or will be called upon if the 5-star is injured.
Essentially, if you try to get a 5-star QB every year, you may not get a true 5-star that often. If you only try to get a 5-star every 2 or 3 years, you might be able to land that 5-star "whenever you want", due to the ability of being a multi-year starter.
I think a similar thing could be said for RBs, and less so for WR's. Say we signed the #1 overall RB this year -- in my eyes, it'd be much harder to get a 5-star RB next year than if we didn't sign a top RB this year.
August 2nd, 2012 at 10:29 AM ^
USC does it with QB's and Alabama does it with RB's (I realize Ingram wasn't highly touted) but Richardson, Lacy, and Hart were. Elite programs that compete for national titles can get away with it. 9-3 teams going to the Capital One bowl can't.
The biggest factor is how much you win (and for USC and Alabama paying players might have a part as well).