December 19th, 2011 at 7:03 PM ^
It sucks if it's true, but the only people who care outside of Michigan and Ohio are schools that got punished more severely, and their voices won't be taken seriously. I hope the rumors are false.
December 19th, 2011 at 7:08 PM ^
Early on in the process the PAC12 made some noise about watching this closely and that they wouldn't tolerate a double standard. We'll have to see what they do.
Likely not much though because I doubt they want the NCAA to dig any deeper at Oregon. We could very well have a deal along the lines of no bitching over the tOSU sanctions in exchange for that whole "Chip Kelly pays people thousands of dollars" thing not getting looked at.
December 19th, 2011 at 7:13 PM ^
Good point they raise hell what happens ?? cough cough Oregon
December 19th, 2011 at 8:40 PM ^
Please don't refer to the Buckeyes as "tOSU." That's what Buckeye fans do and it's lame.
KTHANKSBYE
December 19th, 2011 at 11:14 PM ^
You know that half of your posts start with "seriously" and end with calling someone out?
December 19th, 2011 at 7:10 PM ^
"but the only people who care outside of Michigan and Ohio are schools that got punished more severely"
You repeat yourself. What absolutely stuns me about this whole situation is that Michigan is going to be punished more severely by the NCAA for something that even the NCAA said was hugely overblown (practice time, obviously), than OSU for illegal benefits. If I had any respect left for the NCAA, I would have lost it by now.
December 19th, 2011 at 8:24 PM ^
December 19th, 2011 at 8:31 PM ^
Better coach? I know Meyer got two titles at Florida, but I would rather have him at OSU vs Tressel any day. JT owned Ohio recruiting. Meyer will do well, but not as good as Tressel.
December 19th, 2011 at 9:24 PM ^
How the hell would we know how well Meyer will do?
December 20th, 2011 at 12:14 AM ^
Look at Tressel's record vs. Michigan, BCS bowl appearances, in the Big Ten, overall.
It is almost impossible to duplicate. Meyer's teams at Florida were nowhere near as consistent.
December 19th, 2011 at 8:42 PM ^
I have seen Ohio fans say crap like, "Not only did we self-impose, but we lost our head coach, our starting QB, starting WR for ten games, starting RB for five games, and other stuff."
LOL, it doesn't work like that.
December 20th, 2011 at 10:22 AM ^
...it just might, unortunately. All the NCAA is doing is encouraging teams to not self-report major violations while inundating the system with minor infractions. Not bothering to investigate on their own, because the NCAA does not have the man-power or will or resources? to do it themselves. Michigan did things the right way with the MBB program as well was with stretchgate; however, we obviously did way more than we had to.
December 19th, 2011 at 7:23 PM ^
not just for the sake of them not profiting from so much cheating, but also the message it'll send to all the other schools in the NCAA one way or the other. If Ohio breaks as many rules as it did and basically moons and flips off the NCAA in the process and nothing comes of it then pretty soon every school will be pulling a page from the Ohio/UNC book. Ohio will bounce back from sanctions in time, but nothing good can come from glossing over their overwhelming, and deliberate graft.
December 19th, 2011 at 9:29 PM ^
Its messed up to think they could come out of this whole thing even better than they did before it started. They got a more successful coach than they had before. Someone needs to do something about the NCAA, theyre the real problem with college football.. Its all about money, somehow they're benefiting from Ohio
December 19th, 2011 at 7:07 PM ^
Tweets from...?
December 19th, 2011 at 7:09 PM ^
December 19th, 2011 at 8:03 PM ^
I'd think that USC will lose it if tOSU doesn't get hit hard. Being out in LA, I can say that they were pissed when the OSU/Miami stories became public, especially with Miami. If tOSU gets off easy, I'd expect USC to be pretty vocal about it. And they should be.
December 19th, 2011 at 8:19 PM ^
People forget that the bowl ban and scholly ban to USC potentially costs the PAC 12 millions in revenue. USC had the Rose Bowl locked down every other year for the better part of the decade. It's not simply Ohio not being "punished" in a manner similar to USC but, rather, the economic implications to the conference as a whole.
The fact that USC is the darling of a giant media market while Columbus is Columbus will only magnify the USC perception of getting screwed over. That is good.
December 19th, 2011 at 10:12 PM ^
The NCAA really had no choice with usc. The facts were laid out in transcript and the facts clear. The NCAA had to do. ... . somthing. They did. Here, the only way anything is going to happen if there is a suit, deps are taken, and facts are clear. Right now, they are not, nor is there any reason to believe they will be. It looks like we know what happened, on many occaisions, but the only people who have admitted anything are former players now in the pros, and not under oath. If the oppotuity to depose Pryor comes up soon, I suppose there is a chance,BUT, at this point, he's in the NFL, and absent an agent suing him for money he will not be compelled to testiry. Ohio sure as hell isn't going to sue Pryor to recoup the schoilie is it? I suppose the espn suit could unearth something, but even then, unless its crazy ridcuculous admissions, it's not likely to lead to much without testimony.
December 20th, 2011 at 9:56 AM ^
Tressel emails? Christopher Cicero testimony--under oath? Hmmmm . . .
Still, I'm not confident the NCAA will do anything.
December 19th, 2011 at 7:13 PM ^
December 19th, 2011 at 7:13 PM ^
Pope Urban III is infallible.
December 19th, 2011 at 7:14 PM ^
I heard they were going to let Ohio have two coaching staffs indefinitely. They said it really helps in recruiting.
December 19th, 2011 at 7:18 PM ^
I'd give the +1.
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<br>My incompetence made me sad.
December 19th, 2011 at 7:19 PM ^
Click the "moderate" button. It is set to "normal" by default, which is a +1 (there are other options, too, some +1 and some -1). I refuse to see the word "sad" next to a picture of Denard.
December 19th, 2011 at 7:23 PM ^
Only appears after 100 mgoblog points.
December 19th, 2011 at 7:36 PM ^
jumped in to your conversation here but about the plus 1, but where is the moderate button? Your help is much appreciated, but if you feel the need to flamebait me, at least explain to me how thats done as well. GO BLUE!
December 19th, 2011 at 7:39 PM ^
As big blue said, it looks like it only appears once you hit 100 points and are a "trusted user." On a somewhat related note, I know its a lost cause at this point, but man do I miss the upvote/downvote system of the old board.
December 19th, 2011 at 7:42 PM ^
The upvote/downvote system made so much more sense.
December 19th, 2011 at 7:52 PM ^
December 19th, 2011 at 8:24 PM ^
The old system was better. Pure democracy of the neg and the potential trip to Bolivian.
December 19th, 2011 at 8:41 PM ^
the last line of the W is clearly extending through the space between the index and middle fingers
illusion shattered
December 19th, 2011 at 7:48 PM ^
A few explanations are in order.
- First rule of points: don't talk about points.
- Moderate button apparently shows up after you have 100 points. (This keeps trolls from doing much to negbang people.)
- The points thing is basically a beauty contest.
- The only way you control points is with new posts (or responses in threads.)
- The other (rare) way to control points is to either post something so splendiferous and tremendous that a moderator gives you a millon points, or something so venal and annoying that a moderator takes away a million points. (Sent to Bolivia, in the vernacular of mgoblog.)
- In the old days, posbangs and negbangs actually showed up in your point total immediately. So it really made a difference. I think/suspect that moderating this grew so annoying that Brian finally disabled it. I dunno, but whatever.
To sum up: avoid talking and asking about points, put up informative posts, give good analysis, be civil, and even potentially break something new that the Michigan fanbase wants to hear about, and your point total will gradually increase.
December 19th, 2011 at 7:55 PM ^
I was under the impression that the 2nd rule of points was also: don't talk about points. Maybe that was another movie, though.
December 19th, 2011 at 7:58 PM ^
- Don't talk about points.
- Don't talk about rule #1.
- Don't talk about rules #2 or #3.
December 19th, 2011 at 8:28 PM ^
If a man were truly negged.
It can only be to Bolivian.
"I guess I'm gonna fade into Bolivian." - Mike Tyson
December 20th, 2011 at 12:16 AM ^
Can you buy points?
December 19th, 2011 at 7:20 PM ^
I'll be surprised if Ohio is not allowed extra scholarships to make up for the pain and suffering during this frivalous investigation into their more thazn pious institution of higher learning and integrity.
With Smith on the basketball committee, how could we ever think the NCAA would even slap them on the wrist. They wll protect their own and probably give them the Sugar Bowl money back plus interest.
Seriously though, if Tressel doesn't get a show-Cause for lying to the NCAA (their Cardinal sin) and covering it up, won't Bruce Pearl and others go bananas?
December 19th, 2011 at 8:35 PM ^
Add Dez Bryant to that list. How many millions did the nCaa cost him with draft position when he had to sit out his whole season for him lying about a free lunch?
December 19th, 2011 at 7:47 PM ^
when you are in prison you have all the time in the world to read books such as "The Art of War."
it is cool that he is bettering himself, but if he never shot himself would he be a bookworm today?
December 19th, 2011 at 7:50 PM ^
Thread
December 19th, 2011 at 7:56 PM ^
my bad.
December 19th, 2011 at 7:57 PM ^
thumbs up.
December 19th, 2011 at 8:13 PM ^
Where's the next pic where the button loses?
December 19th, 2011 at 8:57 PM ^
Dang, these buttons are good.
December 19th, 2011 at 7:52 PM ^
The NCAA is a hypocritical wreck if Ohio doesn't get punished. Wait.....they already are (i.e. Michigan practice bullshit).
December 19th, 2011 at 8:02 PM ^
if those fucking fucks on the banks of the oldngrungy get away with a slap on the wrist then the NCAA has no balls, morals, ethics, back bone, etc.. they will no longer be a functioning governing body to over see collegiate athletics. it is a fucking embarrassment. fuck em. God i hate that fucking school, they are a bunch of fuckwads (including their fans). i hope this opens a can of worms for the NCAA and i hope USC goes after their asses with a vengance.
FUCK OHIO STATE
because money talks, bullshit walks.