South Carolina in trouble now.
September 19th, 2011 at 7:55 PM ^
September 19th, 2011 at 8:08 PM ^
Yeah, when a perennially mediocre program like USC (NTUSC) starts recruiting like gangbusters, you usually know NCAA violations are going down big time.
September 20th, 2011 at 1:53 AM ^
Are you referring to Michigan's 2012 & 2013 recruiting classes?
September 20th, 2011 at 8:54 AM ^
Hard to call the winningest program in football perennially mediocre.
September 20th, 2011 at 11:19 AM ^
what?
September 20th, 2011 at 1:51 PM ^
I mean, I know I partied a bit too hard last night, but waking up with South Carolina displacing us in total wins is just too much to take. Big mistake going out last night, apparently.
September 19th, 2011 at 7:58 PM ^
George Magnus? I've said too much.
September 20th, 2011 at 8:30 AM ^
Hey mister, are you looking to get banned?
September 20th, 2011 at 10:12 AM ^
yea that was the dumbest thread ive ever seen on here
September 19th, 2011 at 8:00 PM ^
The old ball coach should have hooked them up at a Red Roof Inn instead.
September 19th, 2011 at 8:03 PM ^
Were the bed bug infestations made available to the entirety of the student populace?
September 19th, 2011 at 8:02 PM ^
Next thing you know these kids are going to be found guilty of being let in the continental breakfast after hours. DEATH PENALTY.
September 19th, 2011 at 8:09 PM ^
The ol' ball coach should just retire now while he can still hold a negative handicap on most golf courses. He could play Carolina courses all summer and Florida courses all winter. He could probably get paid pretty well by leveraging his golf into "personal appearances."
Besides, if the Gators have a bad season, he will suddenly become very popular in the Gainesville area again.
September 19th, 2011 at 8:45 PM ^
Heck, if he's got a negative handicap he can head straight for the Senior Tour.
September 19th, 2011 at 9:01 PM ^
Hes also a member at Augusta. True story.
September 19th, 2011 at 10:18 PM ^
Florida just signed Muschamp to a multi-year deal, and he's in his first season. He won't be leavin Florida anytime soon.
September 19th, 2011 at 8:10 PM ^
Spurrier? What a surprise...
September 19th, 2011 at 8:15 PM ^
Clemson and South Carolina are perennially tied for #2 in my Least Suprising to be Comitting Violations list behind TA&M.
September 19th, 2011 at 8:20 PM ^
I'm sure the two Alabama schools have to be near the top.
September 19th, 2011 at 9:30 PM ^
Not so sure about Clemson. That is a legitimately gorgeous place and everybody loves it. Speaking of which, I was watching the Clemson-Auburn game and every time Sammy Watkins made a great play I yelled, "That guy was supposed to go to Michigan!" But as for USC, there is no obvious reason at all why someone would choose to go to Columbia, SC. For all the lakeside, Upcountry beauty of Clemson, USC has, well, nothing.
September 19th, 2011 at 9:37 PM ^
Disagree. While Clemson is a great campus, USC is hardly "nothing". Columbia is a solid college town - just a different style than a Clemson. USC's campus has a ton of history and Columbia has some really nice areas.
September 19th, 2011 at 9:40 PM ^
Admittedly, I don't know Columbia as well, so you may be right. Thanks for correcting me. I have suspected,however, that the ole ball coach might be getting caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
September 19th, 2011 at 10:03 PM ^
Yeah - the problem may not be this hotel issue but other issues the NCAA may uncover with the investigation. I am a USC fan as my secondary team (wife is an alum and family still there) but even I think there might be underlying problems in Columbia.
September 19th, 2011 at 11:34 PM ^
that's probably nicer than most schools in the country (named after Strom Thurmond if I recall). Nice looking campus.
September 20th, 2011 at 12:30 AM ^
Speaking of which, I was watching the Clemson-Auburn game and every time Sammy Watkins made a great play I yelled, "That guy was supposed to go to Michigan!"
That's normal.
September 19th, 2011 at 8:16 PM ^
Hotels routinely give breaks to volume customers. They also sell rooms at half price or less on the big internet sites like priceline, hotelsdotcom, etc. If South Carolina is being penalized for negotiating a volume rate, there is even more wrong with the system than I thought.
I think the NCAA should pay more attention to THE Ohio State University and less to South Carolina.
September 19th, 2011 at 8:23 PM ^
There is no room for frugality in the NCAA
September 19th, 2011 at 8:56 PM ^
You think the university should be negotiating discounts on housing for their athletes?
This sounds like a pretty serious infraction. These players were getting 2 bedroom suites for $14.59 a night. I checked hotel.com as you suggested. The average rate is $169 per night. Additionally many of the players were staying the better part of a year without paying anything. The hotel, owned by a booster, only started trying to collect rent after the NCAA started asking questions.
September 19th, 2011 at 9:26 PM ^
I read that as they were getting discounts of $14.95/room, which sounds like a pretty standard volume discount rate.
September 19th, 2011 at 9:38 PM ^
CBS, SI, et al have it right. It's in the NOA. http://sc.edu/ncaaresponse/NOA.pdf Jump to page 7 for the details.
September 19th, 2011 at 10:01 PM ^
Yep, you're right. That's, um, a substantial discount.
September 20th, 2011 at 1:26 AM ^
Maybe it's an hourly rate?
September 20th, 2011 at 2:37 PM ^
That's a helluva Groupon.
September 19th, 2011 at 9:24 PM ^
The Nuts are a NCAA moneymaker and not to mention Emmert is gonna make sure nothing happens to bad to his boy Gee. Just the way it is sadly...
September 19th, 2011 at 8:19 PM ^
Awesome, another opportunity for the NCAA... to do absolutely nothing of note to the offending school. We get all hyped up for the NCAA to actually punish a program and they get wins retroactively expunged and a few years probation. Honestly, if I was a school that only cared about winning I would just put a lot of effort towards looking the other way- get my championships, hope no one notices, and if they do throw the coach under the bus.
This is small potatoes compared to what we have seen in the last couple years, but even if it wasn't it wouldn't amount to much in the end.
September 19th, 2011 at 8:22 PM ^
enough to care anymore.
September 19th, 2011 at 9:17 PM ^
We are seeing one of these Notice of Allegations every week... and nothing comes of it. The NCAA is not Columbo, more like Inspector Clouseau.
September 19th, 2011 at 8:27 PM ^
“Additionally, the Whitney Hotel made special arrangement with nine student-athletes to pay their rent at later dates, thereby providing an impermissible loan to the student-athletes.”
I wish my old landlord had been this reasonable when my paychecks were smaller than expected....
September 19th, 2011 at 8:33 PM ^
COME ONNNNNNN
September 19th, 2011 at 9:26 PM ^
I dunno..they are local products I might give them the benefit of the doubt.
September 20th, 2011 at 10:04 AM ^
S. Carolina (the state, not the school) has generated plenty of talented football players in the past and very few of them have bothered to go to S. Carolina (the school, not the state) before. If they stayed in-state, they usually went to Clemson, but many ended up at other (read: good) SEC programs.
Something has definitely changed at USC (NTUSC) in the past few years. Maybe it can be explained entirely by the presence of Spurrier....but I doubt it.
September 20th, 2011 at 11:13 AM ^
Steve Spurrier has a big enough name to attract a lot of good football players. The fact that recruiting would pick up upon his arrival is hardlly surprising. Further, I have always had a lot of respect for him as someone who always seemed to me (perhaps I am naive) as a straight shooter.
September 19th, 2011 at 8:46 PM ^
The whole country will be on probation at this rate.
September 19th, 2011 at 8:52 PM ^
I'm Not surprised that the ole ball coach is in trouble, but now I also can't take any ncaa violations or punishments seriously.
September 19th, 2011 at 8:52 PM ^
I'm Not surprised that the ole ball coach is in trouble, but now I also can't take any ncaa violations or punishments seriously.
September 19th, 2011 at 9:38 PM ^
of Michigan Athletic staff took a job at South Carolina.
Interesting at least.
September 19th, 2011 at 11:12 PM ^
Judy Van Horn, former UofM compliance director.
September 19th, 2011 at 9:40 PM ^
Is this for real? Schools are in trouble for negotiating volume discounts at hotels and the NCAA thinks they should pay rack rates instead?
Nothing for Auburn and a wink wink, nudge nudge sham trial for OSU and now this. No wonder people think the system itself is broken and corrupt.
It is.
September 19th, 2011 at 10:08 PM ^
If you read the report, they were getting their players rooms at what seems to be a pretty nice hotel for $450 per month. That's way beyond a volume discount.