UM=OLU? PFF states Michigan has most OL in NFL

Submitted by Killer Khakis on May 6th, 2024 at 10:57 PM

https://x.com/PFF_College/status/1787469110756196571

Per X post, PFF states that two time Joe Moore winner has most linemen in the NFL, and it’s not close. It’s amazing considering the state of the OL back in the early and even late 2010s for Michigan, and the lack of production in the league from that unit. 

MMBbones

May 6th, 2024 at 11:11 PM ^

What is a bit fascinating is the recruitment rankings, which I don't believe M has dominated on the OL during this span. To what extent does coaching in college transform players and turn them into NFL caliber? Perhaps one of our beloved mods could put together some sort of analysis. I know (from what I've read here) ratings of high school OL is less reliable than most any other position. And the difference physically between a 17 year-old and a 22 year-old are enormous. Can coaching make the man? Or has Michigan simply recruited smarter?

Magnus

May 7th, 2024 at 11:46 AM ^

Left to right, that line went Cyrus Kouandjio (2nd round), Chance Warmack (1st round), Barrett Jones (4th round), Anthony Steen (undrafted), DJ Fluker (1st round).

And they were backed up by C Ryan Kelly (1st round), OG Arie Kouandjio (4th round), and OT Austin Shepherd (7th round). 

Both Jones and Kelly won the Rimington Trophy for being the nation's best center.

michengin87

May 7th, 2024 at 3:09 AM ^

rjc

May 7th, 2024 at 6:06 AM ^

That’s pretty amazing since it seems like in most years, our top tackle choices go to Bama or Georgia (Stanford had a run also) and ND snags the guards.

Blue Vet

May 7th, 2024 at 7:16 AM ^

I love that Michigan does such a great job of developing offensive line players. 

When I teach, I consider my primary task not simply to convey information but to develop habits of thought and encourage curiosity that enables students to develop themselves.

MAN-AT-ARMS

May 7th, 2024 at 7:35 AM ^

Plus, Michigan running a pro style offense sets these players up for an easy transition to the NFL. No relearning a new system is necessary with Michigan’s approach. 

Michigan4Life

May 7th, 2024 at 10:24 AM ^

Tbh, NFL doesn't run a pro-style. It's an antiqued term from the 90s and early 00s. NFL has taken in on more high school/college concepts. The blocking scheme is pretty similar across the board like Pin/Pull, Power, Trap, Counter, Wham, etc. 

What sets Michigan OL apart is they recieved good coaching and developed well. OL recruiting matters little in the overall grand scheme of things because it's so hard to project HS players as a OL since they usually come in undersized and need college S&C to get bigger and stronger. 

Amazinblu

May 7th, 2024 at 7:36 AM ^

This doesn’t surprise me too much.

Talent identification and development are part of the equation - so, this includes technique.    Scheme is another key element - and, IMO Michigan runs schemes that resemble what teams that play on Sunday do.

I also give great credit to the players.  Their effort in S&C - along with attention to detail - make a difference.

Romeo50

May 7th, 2024 at 8:41 AM ^

I railed on this incompetence at the time and quickly wanted him gone for having no one in the pipeline in a power, Big Ten conference. Some defend him and shredded Lloyd due to John Bacon, and his half a story told from the circle of trust point of view and devoid of input from Lloyd side. Which ones in the college football Hall of Fame I forget.

Admittedly, I did want him here initially for an opened up offense Which we only saw from Lloyd against urban xeyer and Florida. His effort did not raise me up.

Michigan4Life

May 7th, 2024 at 10:26 AM ^

LC didn't set up RR for success with the recent recruiting classes and lack of OL. RR did not do a good job of restocking OL by focusing so much on the skill position players. Hoke did a bad job of identifying and developing talent. It just a bad recruiting job by all three leading up to Harbaugh tenure. 

Grampy

May 7th, 2024 at 8:04 AM ^

If you’re looking for evidence establishing how important player development and program culture is to on-field success, look no further than this.  We don’t start with 5 star recruits on the OL, but they’re NFL-grade when we get done with them.  The Michigan Difference.

OldSchoolWolverine

May 7th, 2024 at 8:50 AM ^

We need as many as possible to stick this year, and then hold the line going forward, and then we can be called OL U.  I don't think we are in lead yet, despite what PFF says. 

Don

May 7th, 2024 at 9:05 AM ^

"two time Joe Moore winner has most linemen in the NFL"

Sherrone is obviously an excellent OL coach, but Glasgow, Onwenu, Ruiz, Mayfield, Runyan, and Bredeson did not have Moore as their OL coach.

The correct statement is: "Michigan, whose head coach Sherrone Moore is a two-time winner of the Joe Moore Award, has the most offensive linemen in the NFL."

Amazinblu

May 7th, 2024 at 11:21 AM ^

The fact that Michigan has this number (14) of OL in the NFL is interesting.  Why do I say that?   One reason is - OL, if they stay healthy - can contribute for "a while" in the League - a decade or more.   

ND's number - 11 linemen, doesn't suprise me - since they had (IMO) a very solid OL coach - Harry Hiestand (who a few others on the web site also know) for quite a while.   Harry brought NFL experience - focused on fundamentals - and developed those in the position group well.

The Buckeyes number - 9 OL - is a bit of a surprise.  With the recruiting they've had over the past "decade plus" - I'd expect that figure to be higher.   Perhaps this reflects coaching, S&C, and development.

Regardless - I hope Michigan continues to develop strong offensive lines - players with discipline, technique, and the "right amount of nasty".

Go Blue!

MGoRedemption

May 7th, 2024 at 3:52 PM ^

the next step is to have guys be All-pro or pro bowlers. We put a TON of guys in the league, but what has held us back as far as national perception is having top tier elite guys.