It’s concerning to me that the Ravens immediately upgraded him with Macdonald. It feels like a Greg Roman type of guy on the defensive side of the ball who is more name than actual results and would be bound to kick around the NFL fringes for the remainder of his career.
It’s very underwhelming unless you’re keeping Clink and filling DL and LB with younger up and comers.
If a defensive NFL guy wants to come here for a couple of years and build their resume as full time play callers and we get the benefit by having a pass defense scheme that is complex enough to slow down the Ohio State's and Washington's of the world, I'm all for it.
I mean this in the nicest way possible, but you need to log off of the internet for a bit.
The sheer panic that has come out of this fanbase, yourself included, over the past week is ridiculous.
Harbaugh took some coaches. Every coach that leaves takes coaches. Sherrone Moore has support from a variety of people, trust that you might have something good still without panicking that it just got up and left and it's the Hoke days all over again.
Seems to be a kid that will blow up at a Nike regional testing event. His HS coach claims a 4.37 40, and while that’s 5/5 fakes most likely, if he’s in the 4.5 range now before Herbert gets his hands on him, that’s a guy that they now have a track record with of beating the recruiting rankings.
I’d go stoops if I was them. He’s recruited the state well from Kentucky, already 56 and unlikely to ever be a hot coaching candidate at this stage, and he’s likely as sure of a bet to finish in the 7-9 win per season range for as long as he’s there.
JJ made some real dumb decisions tonight. That first pick it feels like he just had to wait for Wilson to clear through to another window and he didn’t see the underneath defender. The second one it seemed like Johnson quit on the route and it looked like JJ was a little frustrated walking off the field. Ball still should’ve went to Wilson. The third one needs to be throw out of bounds but that kid made a heck of a play.
On a side note, this love of Barnhart is obnoxious. He’s a fine player, but just seems to be a Jim guy more than anything else.
Being able to build even a small drip of pipeline to Texas would be a boost to recruiting. Looking at what Ohio State was able to get in JSN, Dobbins, Garrett Wilson, Okuda, Browning in recent years, it’s hard not to be excited that we could replicate that.
KJ Jefferson on this list is egregious. The other guys ahead of JJ are a mix of hype and production but KJ Kefferson? Did they try to watch any Arkansas games last year?
If read between the lines of his dad’s comments, the hatred that they had for Weiss is so glaringly obvious.
Campbell has been killing it. Whether it’s Underwood or a couple of these other top 30 guys it feels like a spot where back to back classes will have elite qbs at the top of them.
Underwood has been up like 3 of the last 4 weekends or something like that. It’s a stunning difference in how aggressive they’ve been with elite QB recruits and how that’s paid off with reciprocal interest.
Anyone who has followed Mcclung for any amount of time knew he had a real shot to put on a show last night. Might not be a full time nba player, but the kid can throw it down with the best of them.
247 had him in a recent recruits to keep and eye on sort of article and seemed relatively high on him. Also seemed like he’s playing mostly OL based on their write up and had projection of him at DL going forward.
One of the reasons the Shanahan style is so popular in circles is that it is extremely quarterback friendly.
Some of the concepts that the 49ers have used this year off of run action have been borderline unfair for teams. For reference, an NFL writer (I think Nick Baumgardner from the Athletic) snipped 4 chunk plays against the Seahawks last week that were all based off of outside zone.
Not sure if Griese had much to do with that, but if even a little rubs off on him that would be a huge boost to the passing offense.
Greg Roman would be such an underwhelming hire. Had an unbelievably efficient, #1 overall offense in Lamar’s MVP year and has gone downhill since. I mean he threw the ball like 35 times against the browns this year it’s Tyler Huntley in 10 degree weather while Dobbins and Gus Edwards were running for like 7 ypc.
I think we can do better than an OC that has been crucified by multiple fan bases at the end of his tenure.
The Florida schools not being able to keep top talent home is still so strange to me. Now they’re losing kids to friggin Colorado. Deion convinced this kid to play more than halfway across the country, in the cold, and with some of his games starting at 10:30 ET on FS1 where people like myself fall asleep 5 minutes into the game on the couch. And for a team that still despite the transfers is going to be a 7 win-ish team.
He can certainly recruit I will give him that much.
Quarterback is a concern, but on the other hand the portal really evens things out. Take a look at what Ole Miss has done in the last two offseasons.
Jaxon Dart-maybe didn't pan out as hoped for them this year but former top 100 guy and a lot of hype from a few starts at USC.
Yesterday they just brought in Walker Howard who was a top 50 guy from the 2021 class.
I think if JJ has the season we all hope for, if Michigan is in a spot of needing a QB next off season they'll have their pick of guys of similar quality.
Any reasonable, common misdeed wouldn’t seem to warrant a police investigation. Either someone told him to cut the crap and he just didn’t or this is going to be bad.
In Warde’s world, we let Jim go over a contract and hire a new coach who is just as successful.
Then what, we let the next guy go too because of a contract if they’re successful and have some demands to increase the competitiveness of the football team?
Just have to hope that Warde has a quick turnaround with the next hire. If I have to hear about friggin “swim lanes” from that coaching search clown I’ll be pretty upset.
The Ronnie Bell departure is a big one. JJ clearly trusted and looked for him in key spots (too often in my opinion) and I don't think they have the next guy in the pipeline to make that step unless they're planning to feature Loveland similar to how Georgia does with Bowers.
Respectfully the reason these coaches aren’t doing what Jim is doing is because they’re being paid like kings and do not have a sniff of NFL interest. Saban bailed in his only stint and is now 71. And the shine on Riley has worn off considerably in my opinion.
Michigan has a coach that everyone wants to talk to. It just is what it is.
Also I live in Mass and that stepping stone line reminds me of when BC fired Jeff Jagodzinski for interviewing for other jobs. The AD came out and said they were not a stepping stone program. Be careful because look how that program has turned out since.
I’ve made peace with the fact that Michigan will be very good next year with or without Jim. It’s annoying that he continues to torpedo recruiting with this vagueness but the portal is now able to even that out in the short term.
He did what he was brought here to do. I’m just surprised it’s happening this year vs next off-season when JJ potentially jumps and there’s some uncertainty in the qb room.
I would hope that Warde and Jim at least are of the understanding that it happens quickly if it does happen. Bad for the program the longer this plays out regardless of outcome.
That's the part that gets me. They're focused on the Michigan size part of it, but Michigan's skill players will make them pay 10 times out of 10 if you give them a crease. I guess they'll find that out on Saturday that you can blend the two (size & speed) together.
In at least cabanas the red shoe has his high school name in it. His high school has the same colors. Didn’t go through the effort of looking at the rest.
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It’s concerning to me that the Ravens immediately upgraded him with Macdonald. It feels like a Greg Roman type of guy on the defensive side of the ball who is more name than actual results and would be bound to kick around the NFL fringes for the remainder of his career.
It’s very underwhelming unless you’re keeping Clink and filling DL and LB with younger up and comers.
If a defensive NFL guy wants to come here for a couple of years and build their resume as full time play callers and we get the benefit by having a pass defense scheme that is complex enough to slow down the Ohio State's and Washington's of the world, I'm all for it.
I mean this in the nicest way possible, but you need to log off of the internet for a bit.
The sheer panic that has come out of this fanbase, yourself included, over the past week is ridiculous.
Harbaugh took some coaches. Every coach that leaves takes coaches. Sherrone Moore has support from a variety of people, trust that you might have something good still without panicking that it just got up and left and it's the Hoke days all over again.
Seems to be a kid that will blow up at a Nike regional testing event. His HS coach claims a 4.37 40, and while that’s 5/5 fakes most likely, if he’s in the 4.5 range now before Herbert gets his hands on him, that’s a guy that they now have a track record with of beating the recruiting rankings.
Did we ever get any further details on what Matt Weiss was trying to hack into? Could it be related to this?
Another guy who isn't super toolsy and ended up in a similar spot in the rankings as Jadyn is Cam Rising.
I may be biased because I think Cam Rising is a really good college QB, but that's a win for this class if that's the type of guy he ends up being.
I’d go stoops if I was them. He’s recruited the state well from Kentucky, already 56 and unlikely to ever be a hot coaching candidate at this stage, and he’s likely as sure of a bet to finish in the 7-9 win per season range for as long as he’s there.
JJ made some real dumb decisions tonight. That first pick it feels like he just had to wait for Wilson to clear through to another window and he didn’t see the underneath defender. The second one it seemed like Johnson quit on the route and it looked like JJ was a little frustrated walking off the field. Ball still should’ve went to Wilson. The third one needs to be throw out of bounds but that kid made a heck of a play.
On a side note, this love of Barnhart is obnoxious. He’s a fine player, but just seems to be a Jim guy more than anything else.
Being able to build even a small drip of pipeline to Texas would be a boost to recruiting. Looking at what Ohio State was able to get in JSN, Dobbins, Garrett Wilson, Okuda, Browning in recent years, it’s hard not to be excited that we could replicate that.
I have a Weber 3 burner propane for weekday grilling and a Weber kettle that I'm using more on the weekends for smoking and grilling.
I keep staring at the tabletop Blackstone setup and wondering if it's worth the discounted price compared to the full set up.
KJ Jefferson on this list is egregious. The other guys ahead of JJ are a mix of hype and production but KJ Kefferson? Did they try to watch any Arkansas games last year?
If read between the lines of his dad’s comments, the hatred that they had for Weiss is so glaringly obvious.
Campbell has been killing it. Whether it’s Underwood or a couple of these other top 30 guys it feels like a spot where back to back classes will have elite qbs at the top of them.
I find it hysterical that every jabroni now is throwing low kicks in a fight like they’re a prime Conor Mcgregor.
I was just getting to a level of trust with Henning on punts where I wouldn’t wince at the thought of him catching a punt traffic or off the bounce.
I think we’re on the 10th year in a row of Texas being back. They’re so back that even computer models are buying into it.
I do not miss the days when there was no OL depth to speak of. This kid is going to be fun to watch once Herbert is done molding him.
Underwood has been up like 3 of the last 4 weekends or something like that. It’s a stunning difference in how aggressive they’ve been with elite QB recruits and how that’s paid off with reciprocal interest.
He doesn’t go to school with Nick Marsh?
Anyone who has followed Mcclung for any amount of time knew he had a real shot to put on a show last night. Might not be a full time nba player, but the kid can throw it down with the best of them.
247 had him in a recent recruits to keep and eye on sort of article and seemed relatively high on him. Also seemed like he’s playing mostly OL based on their write up and had projection of him at DL going forward.
Texas might be breaking in another head coach if Sark has another year in 2023 like his first two.
Probably just got delivered to the wrong table.
In other recruiting news, Harbor just received a South Carolina prediction. Commence board meltdown. Recruiting again sucks.
One of the reasons the Shanahan style is so popular in circles is that it is extremely quarterback friendly.
Some of the concepts that the 49ers have used this year off of run action have been borderline unfair for teams. For reference, an NFL writer (I think Nick Baumgardner from the Athletic) snipped 4 chunk plays against the Seahawks last week that were all based off of outside zone.
Not sure if Griese had much to do with that, but if even a little rubs off on him that would be a huge boost to the passing offense.
That raises even more red flags for me. First year without Arians providing guidance on that side of the ball and he completely flopped.
He sucked this past season. One of the highest first/second down run rates in the NFL with the worst rushing attack in the league.
Greg Roman would be such an underwhelming hire. Had an unbelievably efficient, #1 overall offense in Lamar’s MVP year and has gone downhill since. I mean he threw the ball like 35 times against the browns this year it’s Tyler Huntley in 10 degree weather while Dobbins and Gus Edwards were running for like 7 ypc.
I think we can do better than an OC that has been crucified by multiple fan bases at the end of his tenure.
He’s one of the 5 best coaches in football. That’s what you get when you have one of those.
I don’t know why this is a rebuttal from some on the board.
The Florida schools not being able to keep top talent home is still so strange to me. Now they’re losing kids to friggin Colorado. Deion convinced this kid to play more than halfway across the country, in the cold, and with some of his games starting at 10:30 ET on FS1 where people like myself fall asleep 5 minutes into the game on the couch. And for a team that still despite the transfers is going to be a 7 win-ish team.
He can certainly recruit I will give him that much.
Quarterback is a concern, but on the other hand the portal really evens things out. Take a look at what Ole Miss has done in the last two offseasons.
Jaxon Dart-maybe didn't pan out as hoped for them this year but former top 100 guy and a lot of hype from a few starts at USC.
Yesterday they just brought in Walker Howard who was a top 50 guy from the 2021 class.
I think if JJ has the season we all hope for, if Michigan is in a spot of needing a QB next off season they'll have their pick of guys of similar quality.
Any reasonable, common misdeed wouldn’t seem to warrant a police investigation. Either someone told him to cut the crap and he just didn’t or this is going to be bad.
Everytime I see Pete Goulding I see Paul Walter Hauser. They're the same person in my book.
For all of the 4/5 star talent that Clemson brings in, they haven't had a receiver crack 700 yards since the 2020 season. That's crazy to me.
In Warde’s world, we let Jim go over a contract and hire a new coach who is just as successful.
Then what, we let the next guy go too because of a contract if they’re successful and have some demands to increase the competitiveness of the football team?
Just have to hope that Warde has a quick turnaround with the next hire. If I have to hear about friggin “swim lanes” from that coaching search clown I’ll be pretty upset.
The Ronnie Bell departure is a big one. JJ clearly trusted and looked for him in key spots (too often in my opinion) and I don't think they have the next guy in the pipeline to make that step unless they're planning to feature Loveland similar to how Georgia does with Bowers.
I refuse to buy into the Penn State hype train. James Franklin is a boob.
Do you know how effing bad BC has been since Jag?
This is not the road you want to go down..
Their linebackers coming down hill repeatedly and not really paying for it will frustrate the shit out of me for a long, long time.
Whether it be overconfidence or ignorance, that was a coaching failure.
Respectfully the reason these coaches aren’t doing what Jim is doing is because they’re being paid like kings and do not have a sniff of NFL interest. Saban bailed in his only stint and is now 71. And the shine on Riley has worn off considerably in my opinion.
Michigan has a coach that everyone wants to talk to. It just is what it is.
Also I live in Mass and that stepping stone line reminds me of when BC fired Jeff Jagodzinski for interviewing for other jobs. The AD came out and said they were not a stepping stone program. Be careful because look how that program has turned out since.
I’ve made peace with the fact that Michigan will be very good next year with or without Jim. It’s annoying that he continues to torpedo recruiting with this vagueness but the portal is now able to even that out in the short term.
He did what he was brought here to do. I’m just surprised it’s happening this year vs next off-season when JJ potentially jumps and there’s some uncertainty in the qb room.
I would hope that Warde and Jim at least are of the understanding that it happens quickly if it does happen. Bad for the program the longer this plays out regardless of outcome.
That's the part that gets me. They're focused on the Michigan size part of it, but Michigan's skill players will make them pay 10 times out of 10 if you give them a crease. I guess they'll find that out on Saturday that you can blend the two (size & speed) together.
In at least cabanas the red shoe has his high school name in it. His high school has the same colors. Didn’t go through the effort of looking at the rest.
This is a Will Campbell troll job
Mike Farrell gave himself his own nickname-“godfather of recruiting”. He is outside the circle of trust for me.
That said, being 18 and getting paid to play football and live in LA sounds very appealing.
I personally have high hopes for Tyler Morris next year based on nothing other than he got open a couple of times when they really needed a play.
Having an always open slot guy makes life a lot easier on offense.
Nice. Keep bringing in the beef.
Hopefully they can get him back up on an unofficial. Sucks to have an early OV when a kid decides so late.
Just hoping Erick All and the childish adults that are continuing to push this will just go away at this point.
We get it, you feel wronged. Oh well. Now you get to play at another top tier football program. Can't be that bad.