Time to cancel the Muppets?
I have thought for awhile that the whole Muppets thing has run its course.
Regardless, if MGoBlog continues this practice please provide appropriate warnings. Surprised MGoBlog isn’t on top of this.
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February 21st, 2021 at 10:36 PM ^
To all the people talking about cancel culture, nothing was cancelled. Disney simply puts a notice up before certain episodes. Maybe take a peak at some of the depictions and think about what it might feel like for, as an example, a Black person to suddenly see the confederate flag draped in front of them while watching a kids show. Check your privilege.
Putting a brief notice up is an incredibly small and considerate step to take.
"Each episode bears the 12-second disclaimer for a different reason, from Cash’s appearance singing in front of a Confederate flag to negative depictions of Native Americans, Middle Easterners and people from other cultures."
Never actually watched the mgoblog muppets. Talking about Disney's move, not about the OP request for a notice on the mgoblog vids.
February 21st, 2021 at 11:52 PM ^
What percentage of the people that show outrage are actually offended. If you're deeply affected by a muppet or some girl on the bachelor there is a high likelihood that your have some other serious underlying psychological issues or a severely damaged/ perspective on what truly matters in life. We cannot expect people in the past to abide or be held accountable to today's standards. It already happened. It's not obvious that banning, censoring, and erasing history is the best way to fix the lingering effects history might have on today.
February 22nd, 2021 at 12:18 AM ^
Easy for a subversive koala/drop bear to say.
February 22nd, 2021 at 12:34 AM ^
Careful. RGard is my arch enemy, but I can have more than one. Love you.
February 22nd, 2021 at 12:30 AM ^
They did not ban, censor, nor erase these episodes.
February 22nd, 2021 at 12:38 AM ^
Maybe they should. Wimpy virtue signaling. Grow some balls disney. Ban the video or spare me your moral commentary on the content you created and are making money from still. We'd all be more moral of we did the opposite of what disney has done historically. They can suck a bag of appendages they prefer least.
February 22nd, 2021 at 12:42 AM ^
They can suck a bag of appendages they prefer least.
The irony of this, especially in the context of addressing the professionally outraged, is delicious!
February 22nd, 2021 at 8:22 AM ^
The logistics are even funnier.
How do they pick which appendage the bag is going to be filled with? What if it's a tie? What's the tiebreaker? What if someone is really into sucking legs and then lies about it to get all the legs they can suck?
Who you gonna call to get a bag of legs? Where are they gonna get the legs? Are they sustainably sourced and organic?
Even after all that, who determines when a person is done sucking a bag of legs? I mean, they're not lollipops, they don't disintegrate when licked. Is is a surface area thing?
February 22nd, 2021 at 12:40 PM ^
Well, it's a metaphorical bag, but if I had to procure a real bag then I would opt for sustainably sourced cadaver appendages. The could be returned once the sucking is complete. I would say it's a surface area. Once 100% if the area is sucked, then the sucking is complete. Legs would require more sucking, but could be less revolting to some. To each their own, which is why I offer the adjustability of the appendage according to one's taste, or the opposite of said taste I suppose.
February 22nd, 2021 at 1:11 AM ^
I think this move is about being considerate to people of today, not about punishing the people of the past. As you say, banning, censoring, and erasing aren't always the appropriate move.
Posting a message that says 'there's a flag that represents racism and hatred of you and your culture in this kids show you're about to watch' is a pretty basic courtesy. The alternative that you suggest 'surprise, there it is, no big deal. If you're feeling torn up about this, you've clearly got psychological issues' could only come from someone from a dominant culture, who doesn't routinely face these indignities and who can't grasp that experiences in the world are very different from those of others.
February 22nd, 2021 at 12:57 PM ^
I get what you're saying, but in the broader context I don't think Disney is on a solid enough moral ground to be able to tell us what is and isn't offensive. They are free to do so still, but I am also free to think it's bullshit. I'm just skeptical of the stance that minorities are offended from watching old cartoon content that isn't racially sensitive. Do people (minorities or otherwise) really expect old content not to reflect the outdated sentiments of that time period? Did anyone at Disney ask minorities if they are offended or is this just Disney presuming how certain group and others should feel? What would we call that? If anything, minorities have had to have thicker skin than most and are even more aware of historical context out of necessity due to actual racism. I could just as easily see minorities being offended that the folks in power think they can't handle seeing a confederate flag in a show that depicts the south 100 years ago without a trigger warning. Maybe the answer is "yes" and Disney did do it's due diligence, but it's a fair question to ask.
February 22nd, 2021 at 1:46 AM ^
What percentage of the people that show outrage are actually offended
None. It's a power grab.
"I'm good, you're bad, so you have to atone and do what I say."
February 21st, 2021 at 10:57 PM ^
How bout no ...you freaky Dutch bastard
February 21st, 2021 at 11:10 PM ^
No, it’s not easy being green.
February 21st, 2021 at 11:17 PM ^
Speaking of Muppets, Mean Joe was such a cute baby. What happened to him?
February 21st, 2021 at 11:49 PM ^
I'm still adorable.
February 21st, 2021 at 11:48 PM ^
Time to cancel your stupid face. You poopyhead!
February 21st, 2021 at 11:55 PM ^
Zzzzzzz...
February 22nd, 2021 at 12:49 AM ^
I applaud the decision to issue the warning and I applaud the decision to keep the muppets content (and lots of other content that also has the warning) available.
Standards and norms change. We have made some great progress since the Muppets was a series and we can celebrate that. We can also condemn what was wrong then and is still wrong. And we can also watch it and learn and laugh and grow. Or we can not watch in reasonable protest.
If every word I had said in HS was recorded and used against me I’d be cancelled too. And that would be a shame, because I likely never would have learned to regret those things, learn why they are wrong, and commit myself to making the world better, starting with myself.
Good people can and do say bad and stupid things. Good people can grow up in racist, sexist, even buckeye households. And sometimes that means good people will say or do stupid or even evil things. And it’s time for us to grow the fuck up and recognize that different environments can produce different behaviors and that censoring or pretending those behaviors didn’t exist doesn’t actually help anyone.
February 22nd, 2021 at 1:26 AM ^
Good people can and do say bad and stupid things.
Yeah... Trump said the same thing after Charlottesville too.
Hilarious that in your attempt to be more woke than the rest of us, that's what you came up with.
February 22nd, 2021 at 8:15 AM ^
This comment didn’t go to the extreme at all.
February 22nd, 2021 at 1:12 AM ^
No ones forcing you to read it, Buddy.
February 22nd, 2021 at 1:37 AM ^
I promise you, we are all doing something that they will find offensive and unacceptable 50 years from now. We just don't know what it is.
Maybe they will discover that vegetables have feelings. Maybe keeping pets will be seen as a form of cruelty. Who knows?
But whatever it is, may they have more mercy on us than we are having now on people who innocently did minor things decades ago without any intentional harm.
February 22nd, 2021 at 7:36 AM ^
Wise words. If only more people understood them.
February 22nd, 2021 at 8:17 AM ^
My guess is eating a steak will be seen as offensive 50 years from now on account of the impact the herds had on the environment.
February 22nd, 2021 at 8:43 AM ^
There's a pretty easy solution here: do your best, and be open to considering additional information graciously. A simple "I hadn't considered that before, thanks for bringing it to my attention" will diffuse almost all of these situations.
February 22nd, 2021 at 1:45 AM ^
Oh geez, this is exhausting. ‘Cancel culture’ isn’t a new thing brought about by oversensitive gender studies majors raised on participation trophies, it’s a not-great societal construct called ‘ruffling the feathers of a plurality of people’ and it’s existed for the entirety of our lifetimes as the Dixie Chicks, John Carlos and Tommie Smith would attest.
February 22nd, 2021 at 2:50 AM ^
Emphatic NO!
February 22nd, 2021 at 5:51 AM ^
Cancel cancel culture.
February 22nd, 2021 at 6:17 AM ^
What a douchey post. You have to be fucking kidding right?
February 22nd, 2021 at 6:51 AM ^
HERESY!!!@@
February 22nd, 2021 at 6:56 AM ^
Does anyone read a headline to a post & think “ This poor bastard is about to get light up”. The headline to this post was the easiest to guess”.
February 22nd, 2021 at 7:34 AM ^
I see the s/? I hope this is supposed to be a joke, because it is otherwise one of the most idiotic comments ever, almost as idiotic as what Disney has done.
February 22nd, 2021 at 7:50 AM ^
The same warning label was put on the Bugs Bunny collection a couple decades back: "It was wrong then and it is wrong now".
Really? Do we think we are now the apex of humanity and can judge all previous generations? Is it appropriate for us to condemn Jim Henson as hateful and destructive because he poked gentle fun at the world in which he lived?
February 22nd, 2021 at 10:10 AM ^
Anybody know the record for most amount of neg points for a single mgoblog post? I wonder if this post could break the record? Lol.
February 22nd, 2021 at 12:28 PM ^
Can we stop cancelling everything that offends the minority! Cancel culture has got to go!
