MSU defensive "star" (per FFFF), Simeon Barrow entering portal
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:28 PM ^
You hate to see it.
October 23rd, 2023 at 3:58 PM ^
You hate to see the Spencer Brown play. Thought he would be "encouraged" to enter the portal by now. But he likely got a bounty payment.
That said, when you team captain bails on the team mid season, welp! Hope Simeon does well in the MAC
October 23rd, 2023 at 6:42 PM ^
Team captain bails on the team mid-season?!?!!??!! Can you imagine if a UM captain did that? UM fans would be incredulous.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:28 PM ^
Seems to be turning his back on the team in the middle of the year. No matter how bad they are, it's not a good look IMO.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:36 PM ^
I cant think of a better reason to transfer than the current state of the MSU football program.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:38 PM ^
Yeah agreed. I don't think anyone who was prognosticating back in August envisioned THIS as the worst case scenario for MSU football.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:47 PM ^
On the other hand, if your program fails at the simple tasks of 'not sexually harassing a rape prevention speaker' and 'not putting Hitler on the jumbotron' I'd honestly think about moving on too
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:52 PM ^
Yeah. It's "generally" a bad look to leave your team in the middle of the season, but like all rules, there are exceptions. And hoo boy is MSU exceptional this year.
October 23rd, 2023 at 3:02 PM ^
On the contrary, this seems to be the smartest decision an MSU football player has made in quite some time.
October 23rd, 2023 at 6:54 PM ^
Agree. This isn't as much bailing on a team as bailing on a program, athletic department and university that can't get its shit together.
Guy needs to think about his career, education and maybe if he can slip into the NFL. Given he's apparently been injured a bunch, makes sense to sit the year out, get as healthy as possible, and give it a go at a new spot not nearly as toxic.
October 23rd, 2023 at 6:44 PM ^
Horrible look. I can’t imagine a team captain would bail mid season. Simply unacceptable. Good thing that has never happened with UM football
October 23rd, 2023 at 7:00 PM ^
Might be that 30 day window that make this the right time for him, if he was going to leave I'd appreciate that he at least battled through the U of M game. Without him it could have been worse (maybe?).
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:31 PM ^
Barrow is wheeling his way out of East Lansing, eh?
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:35 PM ^
They’ve really hit the bottom of the barrow.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:53 PM ^
JJ was throwing dimes like shooting fish in a barrow.
October 23rd, 2023 at 3:16 PM ^
Time to roll out the barrow of new offers
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:33 PM ^
Best way to describe MSU is
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:43 PM ^
He's thinking, "Dammit, I should have listened to Payton and Keon."
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:46 PM ^
Walking out on the team after that loss is a tough look, but remember that NOBODY will ever touch the Tale of Demetrius Jones:
The year is 2007. Charlie Weis has just put Brady “lol ‘Heisman QB’” Quinn into the NFL and recruited Jimmy “Head Case” Clausen.
Weis spends the entire offseason installing a gimmick offense for the first game of the season, vs. Georgia Tech. He names Demetrius Jones the starter, but secretly intends to name Clausen as his starter in Week 2 and switch offensive systems, which he assumes will go well because he (Weis) is WICKED SMAHT.
Game 1 does not go as planned. Jones completes one pass and loses two fumbles before Weis pulls him, inserts Clausen, tries to switch offensive systems mid-game, and loses.
Post-game, the Irish fans did not hesitate to blame Jones. Jones, in his turn, rightly feels like he was set up to fail.
Demetrius Jones just sorta didn’t show up to travel to Michigan with the rest of the ND team. He announced his intent to transfer to N. Illinois. Notre Dame says NO (!!). Eventually, he gets permission to talk to Cincinnati, and ended up transferring there.
The head coach of Cincinnati? Brian Kelly. Who, while ALSO not giving Jones the QB1 job, at least didn’t give him a one-game “phantom start.” Jones played at LB that year transferred down to a Div II team after that season.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:54 PM ^
Decided schematic advantage.
October 23rd, 2023 at 3:08 PM ^
Damn! That's rough. Charlie Weiss was a weird hire for ND. As a matter of fact, did anyone from the Offensive side of the Patriot's staff succeed away from Tom Brady? Or the Defensive side? Oof!
October 23rd, 2023 at 3:21 PM ^
“Succeeded” in terms of winning games? No. Josh McDaniels currently has a chance to redeem himself after a disastrous first stint as a HC.
”Succeeded” in terms of extracting large sums of money from businesses/institutions in return for bad results on the field? Yes. In fact, Charlie Weis is kinda my hero for how much money he bilked from ND in exchange for tanking the program.
October 23rd, 2023 at 3:23 PM ^
What's Charlie up to these days? He'd be a great hire for MSU if available!
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:47 PM ^
He's a captain too.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:50 PM ^
Beware glass houses. Ours didn't exactly display McCarthy-level enthusiasm at the games he actually attended after losing the starting job last year.
October 23rd, 2023 at 4:12 PM ^
Knew this comment was coming...
There's a big difference between being salty about getting benched and the injured, and having your will beaten out of you at the hands of your biggest rival.
October 23rd, 2023 at 6:50 PM ^
Please explain further. Erick All was hurt and attended road games including B1G Championship. You don’t just quit mid season because you are injured. Or am I wrong?
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:50 PM ^
I think Bai Jobe already did as well. Program is cratering. Next coach with have a Coach Prime level rebuild.
October 23rd, 2023 at 3:05 PM ^
A Coach Prime-level rebuild only works if you have a guy who is as charismatic as Coach Prime attracting transfers to come play. Otherwise you just end up with Mel Tucker trying to paper over your talent deficiencies with guys who washed out at their previous schools, instead of recruiting and developing program guys.
What is MSU's pitch to transfers going to be? "We probably won't show Hitler on the scoreboard again"? "Come play for a team that might occasionally be fifth-best in its conference"?
October 23rd, 2023 at 4:18 PM ^
Fifth?
UM, OSU, PSU, USC, UW, Oregon. And probably here comes Nebraska w Rhule and Wiscy with Fickell. And I-wa (No O) may eventually get back their O. And UCLA. And Terps and Rutgers w Schiano. MSU would be lucky to be 7th best and realistically will be in a dogfight for 10th or 11th.
October 23rd, 2023 at 3:13 PM ^
Well, if you read the RCMB(don't do this), this may be Urban's first rebuild since Bowling Green/Utah.
October 23rd, 2023 at 3:14 PM ^
I think it's important to remember that Coach Prime instigated the rebuild and essentially gave pink slips to players he didn't think were prime material from the previous regime. MSU would have to find someone who is even ballsy/savvy enough to pull off that move and even then, they're not many Shadeur Sanders and Travis Hunters lining up to transfer to MSU.
MSU will either find a RichRod type coach who starts completely fresh and says fuck it or a Brady Hoke type who has ties to the university and won't stir the pot. What they don't have is a white whale type coach who is a slam dunk hire for years to come.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:52 PM ^
I'm shocked that there hasn't been a mass exodus from the program already. I give Harlon credit for mostly keeping the team together. I don't know most of them have stayed this long.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:52 PM ^
I mean I don't blame him. Also entering the transfer portal doesn't mean you have to transfer. Its a way to start the process. He can still play as far as I know and may want to see what's out there and see what happens at MSU.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:54 PM ^
A separate tweet I saw said he was stepping away from the team.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:56 PM ^
I think that I read that Barnett previously said that anyone entering the portal was off the team. I may be mistaken about that.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:56 PM ^
Would he beat out Cam Goode? Honest question.
October 23rd, 2023 at 3:02 PM ^
So, he is LIKELY to enter the portal. Got it.
October 23rd, 2023 at 3:19 PM ^
Now picture all the HS seniors as they finish up their seasons over the next few weeks and mull the MSU scholarship offers they have. What do you think the conversations will be surrounding that offer? In fact, since Barnett is interim, who's actually recruiting, and for whose roster?
It can get worse.
October 23rd, 2023 at 3:32 PM ^
When it rains it heils… Are we still doing msu hitler jokes?