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Brian January 14th, 2020 at 12:16 PM

Campanile retained. Rutgers settled for this guy:

That's good news. Turnover's going to happen; losing the guys generally thought of as your top two recruiters at the same time would have been bad. Unfortunately it seems like retaining Campanile means the guy replacing Partridge isn't going to be Kentucky DB coach Steve Clinkscale but rather an assistant from the S&C staff named Tank Wright, per Webb.

Imagine Ohio State passing up an excellent position coach who is also a proven top notch recruiter so they can hire someone with zero track record because they can't find 100k. Would never happen. OSU might hire an incompetent because of nepotism, but they would never say they lack resources.

On the other hand. Tank Wright got married in the weight room.

If you can recruit a woman to get married in a damn weight room how hard can flagging down high school kids be?

[After THE JUMP: Dantonio deposed]

One spot sorted. Ambry Thomas is back and that means Michigan has the top-graded returning CB in the league:

The other cornerback spot is a little worrying.

I'd say fire Dantonio but the best punishment is keeping him. Tony Paul has a pair of explosive articles on MSU's decision to admit Auston Robertson and the sexual assaults that imploded their breakthrough recruiting class. On Robertson:

Robertson's misconduct began by age 11 and continued through high school, according to records obtained by The Detroit News:

►On July 12, 2009, Robertson, 11, was in a park when he allegedly told friends he was going to rape someone. A female friend asked him who, and he responded, “You.” The girl ran home and told her mother, who, having heard concerns about Robertson, called the New Haven Police Department. Robertson admitted the incident.

►On Feb. 12, 2013, Robertson, 15, was with two female friends and asked them if they wanted to have sex. They attempted to walk away, but Robertson grabbed one, who pushed him away, then went home and told her mom, according to a report by the Fort Wayne Police Department.

►On April 17, 2013, Robertson, still 15, was at Wayne High School in Fort Wayne, where his ex-girlfriend purchased a soda. Robertson allegedly took it away then forced her to kiss him. She put her hand up to cover her mouth, pushed him away, and told him to stop. Robertson, according to a witness, said, “no,” tackled her and pulled down her pants, exposing her, according to the Allen County Police Department.

►In June 2013, Robertson invited a girl to his house, and while on the couch, he allegedly asked her to have sex. When she said “no,” Robertson grabbed her by the ankles, pulled her into the bathroom, grabbed her by the hair, pulled down her pants and made her sit on his lap, according to the Fort Wayne police. She got away by squeezing his genitalia.

►In October 2013, according to the same report, the girl from the June incident was at Robertson's house having sex with a different person when Robertson allegedly opened the door and said, “My turn.” Robertson bent her over the bathtub and had intercourse with her until someone began banging on the door. He then left, allegedly telling the girl she “better not tell nobody cuz I already have a charge on me.”

►In July 2015, at a volleyball conditioning practice, Robertson allegedly twice grabbed the buttocks of a female volleyball player, according to Fort Wayne police.

►On Oct. 6, 2015, the same girl was waiting for a trainer to wrap her hand when Robertson allegedly grabbed her buttocks again.

►On Oct. 22, 2015, the same player was in the high school office when Robertson, 18, allegedly rubbed and grabbed her genitalia. The girl pushed him away and started to leave when Robertson did it a second time.

MSU admitted him. They did so after a meeting with six people in the room. One was the AD at the time, Mark Hollis, who got overruled:

In an office at MSU sometime in 2016, an esteemed group of senior executives assembled for a meeting with admissions director Jim Cotter,according to an account provided to The News.

Cotter led MSU admissions for a decade,and is a former MSU baseball player who frequently serves as master of ceremonies for football events, including the year-end banquet.

He was joined that day by at least six others: Bill Beekman, secretary of the MSU Board of Trustees; MSU police chief James Dunlap; deputy athletic director Jennifer Smith; vice president of student services Denise Maybank; Dantonio and Hollis.

The question: Would Robertson's behavior bar him from MSU?

Dantonio wanted him on the team. Hollis, the athletic director, did not.

Hollis resigned a year or so later and Beekman, who pushed for Robertson to be admitted, became the AD. The only good news in this situation is that MSU's fanboy leadership is busy driving the football program off a cliff. MSU has still made no coaching changes since their offense crawled in a hole and died two years ago, followed shortly by their recruiting.

MSU still remains a failed organization that cares zero about anything other than protecting people in power as best they can. No MSU grad should sit on their board of trustees. If the Democratic party nominates the appalling Joel Ferguson for another term on the board they should catch hell.

Sounds familiar. Banner Society has a retrospective on USC's lost decade that touches on some things that sound pretty familiar, most notably hiring a business grifter with zero experience for the head chair, whereupon the business grifter made an awful hire of a guy who had been an assistant several years prior:

To succeed Garrett, the administration brought in former Trojans quarterback Pat Haden, who had no experience in college management. He inherited NCAA penalties for football, a basketball program also in NCAA trouble, and first-year football coach Lane Kiffin.

Kiffin had been the co-offensive coordinator for 2005 USC’s record-setting offense, and his hiring was a transparent attempt to replicate the Carroll era. Kiffin, the well-connected son of a prominent NFL coach, struggled under NCAA sanctions. He had difficulty delegating to assistants, lost a Sun Bowl to Georgia Tech, appeared alternately overwhelmed and indifferent, and got fired after a 2013 loss at Arizona State.

Haden literally left him at LAX, which is funny but also a genuinely terrible way to treat anyone. (Yes, even Kiffin.) Did we mention Haden, his daughter, and his sister-in-law were making six figures a year combined, serving part-time on the board of a non-profit scholarship fund for USC students, sometimes working as little as an hour a week?

Michigan's had a mixed record with unconventional hires but it's notable that until Warde Manuel was picked Michigan hadn't had an athletic director who had worked in an a, you know, athletic department since Jack Weidenbaugh's tenure ended in 1994. Joe Roberson came from development; I was not of age to have opinions about the athletic director at Michigan. (Also Roberson just passed away, RIP.)

The others:

  • Tom Goss had never worked at a university, let alone an athletic department. He put up an ugly halo around the stadium, hired Brian Ellerbe, and drove the department into the red. Not great.
  • Bill Martin had a background in real estate and no athletic department experience. He got the department in the black with PSLs, built the luxury boxes, hired Rich Rodriguez and John Beilein, and handed off the keys to Dave Brandon a little early because he didn't want to bother with the Free Press investigation. Rodriguez didn't work out but given the state Lloyd Carr left the program in (Seven scholarship OL!) pretty much anyone was doomed.
  • Dave Brandon, about whom much has already been written.
  • Jim Hackett was CEO at an office furniture company in semi-retirement when Brandon got axed and hung around as a placeholder/guy who hires Harbaugh. He hired Harbaugh, the end.

That's one successful tenure bookended with two guys who have to be in the picture for worst athletic director Mount Rushmore, and then Jim Hackett's single-issue interim stint. I'm a little frustrated with Manuel (fix Crisler plz) but at least he's not burning the place down.

Get out while you can. Ed Warinner's son Edward decided to bail on MSU and just committed to Michigan. Warinner is a linebacker ranked in the 1200s coming out of high school in 2018 and may be a walk-on. He'll be a redshirt sophomore next year.

Also pulling the ripcord: WR Cody White, who's entering the NFL draft. Walter Football has him the #33 WR, so this could be interpreted as a decision to get away from MSU's offense before it destroys his stats.

Hockey recruiting subtext will get all the clicks. Hockey picked up a D commit:

It's unclear exactly how big of a prospect he is; he got drafted in the OHL's U18 draft, which is for late bloomers and doesn't produce a lot of OHL-level players, let alone guys who could be high-level collegians. On the other hand when Fantilli's drawn mention from scouting services it sounds like he's pretty good:

Luca, a late-02 defenseman, is described as an exceptional skater with great upside, already getting attention from some D1 blue bloods. … both BU and BC, among other bigs, are already in the chase for Luca’s commitment.

It would be a lot easier to judge if Fantilli was in the USHL instead of prep, but his league does produce a lot of college players and Fantilli's scoring more than a PPG as a D. KUA's head coach is former Maine head coach Tim Whitehead.

In any case, the Luca Fantilli text rather takes a backseat to the Luca Fantilli subtext. That's because his brother is this guy:

Adam Fantilli is a pretty big deal and moved from Toronto to New Hampshire to follow his brother. He is apparently planning to accelerate his schooling and graduate early, which would make him a part of the 2021 class. That would probably be unprecedented: he is eligible for the 2023 NHL draft, so he'd play his freshman and sophomore years before getting drafted.

As always, it's possible that this is posturing for OHL draft purposes. If it is it's pretty extreme.

Even more hockey recruiting, for the culture. D Owen Power was on a podcast recently and while it wasn't quite stated directly Power mentioned that his USHL stint would be two years. This is his Power's second year, so the plan appears to be to have him at Michigan next season. Power also said the OHL is "not even a consideration" if you're (understandably jumpy.

I was pretty sure this was the case—Michigan's most recent too-young-to-draft D were Zach Werenski and Quinn Hughes and Power is getting similar draft hype—but not 100%. Now it's basically 100%. Mel Pearson retweeted a @YostBuilt assertion that Power would be coming in next year.

So. If we assume that the guys who have announced LOIs and Power are in the recruiting class looks like this so far:

  • G: Erik Portillo (3rd round pick last year)
  • D: Power (mid-high first rounder in 2021), Jacob Truscott (mid-late round pick this year), ?
  • F: Kent Johnson (mid-high first rounder in 2021), Thomas Bordeleau (fringe first rounder), Josh Groll, Philippe Lapointe, ?

The question mark at F is almost certainly going to be Brendan Brisson, who appears to be playing himself into the edge of the first round as a part of the same USHL team Power's on. Michigan has four more D nominally committed to this class, so your guess is as good as mine there. Ethan Smzagaj could go late in this year's draft and might have the inside track.

Meanwhile, draft rankings:

  • The NHL's CSB mid-term rankings came out. Bordeleau is #26, Brisson #31, Truscott #78, and 2021 D Ethan Edwards #85. Those are North American skater rankings so multiply those numbers by ~1.4 to get a true draft rank. That would put the two forwards in the second round and the two D in round 4 or 5.
  • Brisson is listed as a riser and a mid-second round pick at The Hockey Writers.
  • Here's another early 2021 draft ranking featuring four Michigan commits. Luke Hughes is #5, Johnson #8, Power #15, and Dylan Duke is #21 .

The recruiting lull on the roster is obvious:

  • Drafted seniors: Luke Martin (2nd round), Will Lockwood (3rd), Mike Pastujov (7th)
  • Juniors or would-be juniors: Quinn Hughes (1st), Josh Norris (1st), Jack Becker (7th)
  • Sophomores: none
  • Freshmen: Cam York (1st), Johnny Beecher (1st), Eric Ciccolini (7th)
  • 2020 projections: Power (1st), Johnson (1st), Bordeleau (2nd), Brisson (2nd), Truscott (5th?)

Over the next three years Michigan is going to go from a talent deficient team to one with more whiz-bang than anyone in the country. This hasn't always led teams like BU and Wisconsin to wild success, FWIW.

Etc.: AJ Epenesa to the draft. David Ojabo profiled by the BBC. Deep dives on why college football attendance is tanking should just be 3000 editions of the sentence "there are 16 commercial breaks per half". Hockey is CHN's team of the week after sweeping ND. A former PSU player is suing James Franklin and a former teammate for hazing.

Remember that LSU booster scandal from earlier this year? No, you don't. Is it even a scandal then?

Comments

Alton

January 14th, 2020 at 1:15 PM ^

I think the current Crisler controversy on Mgoblog involves a discussion over whether the other half of the bottom bowl (the half you don't see on TV) should be reserved for non-students, as it is now, or reserved for students, which would at least theoretically improve the atmosphere for bigger games.

The bloggers seem to favor the "entire lower bowl should be reserved for students" argument.

 

The Homie J

January 14th, 2020 at 4:58 PM ^

Any decision on playing facilities should start with "does it make our stadium/arena/field harder to play in for our opponents?"  Obviously that's within reason (we can't cover the court in thumbtacks or force teams to sit on the floor) but any opportunity for additional home field advantage should come first.  Then, prioritize the comfort of students and fans.  Placing the student experience first because they're the ones usually most invested and also usually the loudest & rowdiest (see Penn State's White Out for how to maximize the power of your students).  Then, once fans, students, and the like are taken care of, make it look nice overall and finally (note: once ALL OTHER ASPECTS are satisfied) make it profitable.  I believe if the experience and stadium are nice and fans and alumni are happy, the profits will find you.  Rather than the Dave Brandon approach of maximizing revenue above all else.

Ihatebux

January 14th, 2020 at 7:51 PM ^

Most game the lower bowl is half empty.   I always buy cheap seats and look for empty seat just before half and them move to the lower bowl with a minute left in half time.   So many empty seats you can't go wrong.   Most of the non-students in the lower bowl are so old they can't even see the floor.

michchip

January 14th, 2020 at 1:26 PM ^

Brian - do you think you could talk to the AD about your Crisler proposal? Or are we just going to keep seeing the same thing over and over again in your posts?

bronxblue

January 14th, 2020 at 1:43 PM ^

Yeah, again haven't read the article but I don't know where the sense that money is the reason Michigan may be going with Wright.  Though at the same time, this place has sorta become a hive of negativity surrounding the football program so I'm starting to take these claims with a grain of salt.

Section1

January 14th, 2020 at 1:40 PM ^

Webb said he took himself out of consideration at Michigan because he was getting a pay bump at Kentucky. Webb also said he had a gut feeling the Oregon DB coach who is their ace recruiter would be extremely interested in coming to Michigan. He signed 5 stars like Justin Flowe and Dontae Manning this year. But Harbaugh is going to hire a S&C coach with no experience. It's mind boggling stupidity that guy doesn't get that recruiting needs to be priority #1,2, and 3 with this program. Oh well, get ready for another OSU ass kicking in Columbus next year kids.

bronxblue

January 14th, 2020 at 1:49 PM ^

Guys float their names out there all the time for pay bumps.  We also don't actually know who's being hired, as even the little bit of the article I read from Webb points toward there being discussions on Webb but it's not like it's set in stone.

Beyond that, Partridge was a former HS coach with no relevant recruiting experience at the P5 level and he was a great recruiter.  Wright is a young guy who played for 4 years at Arkansas on some good teams and seems to be pretty popular with guys.  Sometimes you can just take a shot on a guy if you think he's going to fit.  I know people love to hate on Harbaugh (you more than most) but I'm going to reserve judgment on possible coaching changes until they happen.  

Bodogblog

January 14th, 2020 at 2:47 PM ^

A pay bump at Kentucky and coordinator/title responsibilities.  You're leaving that out to amp up your drama. 

If Camp is getting the title/responsibilities in order to keep him at Michigan, you can understand that we can't also offer that to the Kentucky guy, correct?  

Section1

January 14th, 2020 at 6:05 PM ^

Webb never said that he was getting coordinator responsibilities so quit making things up. Secondly no I can't understand how an athletic department that is projected to make $196 million dollars in 2020 can't afford a few extra hundred thousand dollars to pay the coaches in your most important sport. Do you seriously believe the second richest AD in America can't afford to pay coaching salaries? Laugh Out Fucking Loud. 

TCW

January 14th, 2020 at 1:45 PM ^

Rodriguez "didn't work out".  Yeah, that's one way of putting it.  Six conference wins in three seasons at Michigan vs 18 losses, followed by six years at another school and managing to go .500 or better in conference games there exactly twice.

Bodogblog

January 14th, 2020 at 2:56 PM ^

But you didn't read the rest of it: "...given the state Lloyd Carr left the program in (Seven scholarship OL!) pretty much anyone was doomed."  Not his fault. 


That is an incredible distortion of reality, and it seems to be locked into this blog's (its writers) collective brain.  Guys, RichRod was terrible here.  He was somehow even worse at Arizona.  He's an awful head coach.  You were wrong about him, it's OK to admit that.  Based on the evidence you had at the time of hire, it was correct to be excited about him.  His tenure here was a massive, massive failure however.  Continuing to try to sell it as anything else is Mitch-Albom-fake-went-to-a-basketball-game-with-a-guy levels of hubris.  

Bodogblog

January 14th, 2020 at 3:03 PM ^

There's also a chance that Alyssa Milano would have thrown it all away for me if I'd asked her out in 1988.  So with a straight face I could also say, "We will never know." 

That's not reason though.  That's just stating that nothing is impossible.  Reason would say all available evidence indicates RichRod was a disaster here (and in his other head coaching role), and nothing would have made a difference.  

Alumnus93

January 14th, 2020 at 3:54 PM ^

Nope..... RR was completely unaware of the program..... he polarized everyone when he scoffed at the OSU game being more important than the others.  And doubled down.... and then he lost as bad as he did....  he did it to himself.  Carr didn't help, but, had RR simply broke even the first year, with ascension, he'd have been embraced because of the winning... and he didn't win.

Ziff72

January 14th, 2020 at 1:50 PM ^

Nobody knows anything about this guy except the people in Schembechler Hall. It's not great and it's not stupid until we see what happens.  I'm guessing he has a ton of energy to attack this job with everything he's got.

Again,  despite endless examples of the public knowing nothing and being proven wrong as many times as being proven right we act like we know 100%.

Just off the top of my head I'll go with Dabo and Orgeron that were trashed when they were hired.

I know all of you care more about the team and beating OSU more than Harbaugh does, but he is aware that he needs good recruiters.   He put it in the job post somewhere.  I'm almost sure of it.

samsoccer7

January 14th, 2020 at 1:50 PM ^

If our head coach, the CEO of the program, doesn't seem to make recruiting a priority, I guarantee your assistant coaches aren't going to reach their full potential.  That's why college coaches are CEOs now.  You have to rally the troops and lead by example.  Sleeping over at someone's house doesn't mean recruiting is a priority.  If they're not talking about it every week then something is wrong.  Maybe JH is burned out, I don't know, but this isn't a good thing.

Ziff72

January 14th, 2020 at 2:54 PM ^

Did you miss the recruiting camps that got shot down when he started here?  Guy has tried pushing the rules envelope in every direction only to be shot down by the NCAA.  Yeah, he just quit and sits in his office now because he doesn't care about wins or losses.  

I'm sure you are much more competitive than he is.  

samsoccer7

January 14th, 2020 at 5:59 PM ^

Did you miss the recent posts from recruiting “experts” who said that Michigan doesn’t have the same recruiting “program” as OSU and some other places? That it’s up to the assistants to self motivate in recruiting? That they don’t talk about it much during the season? Bc that’s the difference right there. We’re gonna keep finishing 2-3 in the big ten East the way we’re going.

Alumnus93

January 14th, 2020 at 3:57 PM ^

He has made recruiting a priority....hired Patridge and Poggi, and even Bush Sr,  all with recruiting as its number one priority... same with Moore...

I don't buy this 100K claim...  Harbaugh would gladly give up 100K of his 7M to get Clinkscale, believe it...  this isn't the Casteel thing again...

maizenbluenc

January 14th, 2020 at 5:21 PM ^

Well, when you don't allow your boosters to embezzle $150K to pay the parent of an OL recruit (which is perfectly OK per NCAA/Cam Newton), you get a narrowed set of talent, and several big misses and resulting gaps to places that do.

And let's not forget, if you come or transfer here, you have to like actually go to class.

El Jeffe

January 14th, 2020 at 2:20 PM ^

I went back and read Brian's post mortem of the Brandon years and remembered that Brandon

  • Had no prior experience for the job he was hired for;
  • Was a failure at the other businesses he had tried to run;
  • Was narcissistic and demanded utter fealty to him personally;
  • Fired experienced employees and hired inexperienced sycophants;
  • Insulted people in internet communication and was prone to using exclamation points and ellipses; and
  • Made terrible decisions, received criticisms for them, and then invented post hoc explanations for why the decisions were made.

Man, that sounds horrendous.

Alumnus93

January 14th, 2020 at 4:01 PM ^

what burns me the most about Brandon....he hires this marketing guy from the Knicks I think... Lochmann  (Lochdogg ) and they do the Coke promo.   

Being an engineer, I never understood why one needs to market something, as in, spend money, to try to manipulate people into buying your product, rather, than using the money to make the product desireable on its own, and then the marketing isn't needed, because it sells itself...

4th phase

January 14th, 2020 at 2:23 PM ^

Players always love the S and C guys. In his early 30s and from the south, played in the SEC, and the NFL. People are bitching that Harbaugh needs to focus on making hires for recruiting. What do you think this hire is? It’s all for recruiting. This guy has no x and o experience. This is all based on his energy, personality, age, playing career, and hometown ties.

 

edit to add: also if you were fine with Devin Bush Sr, what’s the difference? Bush Sr and Wright have essentially the same college coaching experience (Bush got one bowl game I believe). Both former NFL guys who played college in the south. Both young. If what other people have said in this thread is true that Bush turned it down then I could see Wright being a Bush Sr Lite.

JFW

January 14th, 2020 at 2:31 PM ^

Imagine Ohio State passing up an excellent position coach who is also a proven top notch recruiter so they can hire someone with zero track record because they can't find 100k. Would never happen. 

Damn. This makes me unhappy. I thought we were past that. Just spend the money. We have it.

**Edit. After reading other folks, I didn't have the full picture. Let's give the guy a shot. It's not clear to me that we tried to cheap out.  

Quailman

January 14th, 2020 at 2:46 PM ^

Well, I wouldn't lose too much sleep on it. Not sure where Brian is getting that UM just didnt pay up. Sam Webb said Clinksdale got a pay raise and new title at UK. He may like Lexington and the more money and new title were enough to stay there, as he took himself out of contention. That paragraph sounds more like Brian just wanting to complain about something.