Will Rudock get drafted?
So I guess the fact that this is not a rhetorical question is nice.
I've seen several comments that suggest people on this board think that Rudock will get drafted. I... definitely wouldn't put myself in that camp, but the fact that this is even a discussion should raise the interest of every HS QB out there.
I'm not even sure that he gets signed as an UDFA. If his entire college career played out like the last two weeks, sure. But I can't see him being in the discussion. Hats off to Rudock and Harbaugh for even eliciting this post.
I'm just curious, are the people calling for Rudock to the NFL part of the delusional fanbase that has a very short memory? Or am I underselling his potential?
November 17th, 2015 at 11:18 AM ^
What if he's a really sucky doctor?
November 17th, 2015 at 11:25 AM ^
he speaks English.
November 17th, 2015 at 11:25 AM ^
Then all he will need is two outstanding weeks as a surgeon to boost his profile.
November 17th, 2015 at 11:14 AM ^
Magnus' Siemian example above is case in point.
November 17th, 2015 at 11:14 AM ^
Attitude and mental makeup are key. He is mobile enough, and throws well enough. But if he keeps his cool, and knows how to win, there will be a place for him. If he doesn't make mental mistakes, if he knows the playbook inside and out and knows how to go through his progressions, there will be a place for him. Obviously, Brady is the poster child, going in the 6th round, with none of the speed and strength measurables, but all the intangibles.
November 17th, 2015 at 11:21 AM ^
He's will have a long and illustrious NFL career. He's been touched by Harbaugh.
November 17th, 2015 at 11:23 AM ^
As of now... No he does not get drafted. I know he is "OUR" QB but I'm not sure what you guys see that I don't see.
Truth is I wish I had to time to watch the All-22 vidoe like I do for every team in the SEC but when I watch the game like you guys I believe he is late on almost every single throw. He is a "see it, see it, throw it QB".
Now that isn't a huge knock on him. That's the reason he doesn't make many mistakes. I do believe he sees the field very very well but in the NFL you need to take another step. You have to see it before it happens.
To be clear I do think he has a strong chance to make an NFL team. I think he is smart and does see the field so his ability to throw the ball on time will improve. His accuracy is good and arm stength is decent. His leadership appears strong and he has the number of reps NFL teams love.
There was a throw to Butt that really showed it... Against Rutgers 14:00 in the 2nd QTR, Jake was praised for how he threw the ball high and away where only Butt could get it, I'd agree... But if he had thrown the ball on time, before or even as Butt came out of his break, Butt probably picks up another 10-15 yards at least.
It might seem small but if we are talking NFL I would encourage everone to be picky because that is what NFL teams do. They pick you apart and then figure out what can we fix, what can we hide, what can we use.
HE IS PLENTY GOOD TO WIN THE BIG TEN TITLE
November 17th, 2015 at 11:28 AM ^
That reminds me of the deep post he threw against Indiana to... Chesson? He wasn't even out of his break and Rudock threw it between the CB and safety. Maybe the fact that I can point to a specific play is actually a bad thing, but that was a good example of how he can anticipate a route.
November 17th, 2015 at 11:41 AM ^
Could be good coaching settling in. Maybe Harbaugh is finally unlocking some of his potential to be more than just a game manager?
November 17th, 2015 at 12:11 PM ^
Yea... You pointed out a play and I pointed out one. That was a perfect example of throwing a ball with anticipation... I agree. I would love to see more of it. I don't think I have seen it much this year. I'd point that he did it on a corner TD pass as well. I don't think he does it nearly enough.
I think we all agree the last game was the best of his career. Of course I made my comments off of more than one game or one throw.
November 17th, 2015 at 11:26 AM ^
As long as he can play against Indiana's defense every week he will be a first rounder...
November 17th, 2015 at 11:27 AM ^
November 17th, 2015 at 12:29 PM ^
have the accuracy. Don't let the completion percentage fool you. He isn't accurate especially in intermediate to deep passes.
Arm strength? I've seen him try to use everything in his body to uncork a deep passes.
Accuracy and arm strength are two reason why he won't warrant a draft pick
November 17th, 2015 at 11:40 AM ^
November 17th, 2015 at 11:46 AM ^
November 17th, 2015 at 11:47 AM ^
November 17th, 2015 at 12:11 PM ^
It would depend on his workouts more than the next 4 games but I think he has a great chance of getting drafted late.
The med school option definitely won't help his draft chances. NFL teams like "football" guys with no options other than football. Riskier to spend a pick on a kid that might wake up one day and say "F this, i'm going to med school".
But if he wants it I think he could convince some GM to take a late round shot at him.
November 17th, 2015 at 12:05 PM ^
He'll get the Harbaugh stamp of approval which will be nice to see for NFL coaches, but it depends on his his pro day and potential combine day goes (if he gets invited). Will he have those "measureables" that the scouts are looking for? What's his football IQ? Does he say all the right things in the interview? All things to think about. My gut says he goes undrafted, but if he keeps playing the way he does, he could sneak into Day 3.
But really, no matter what he does he's in good shape. When your fallback option is going to med school and becoming a doctor, you're not doing half bad.
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November 17th, 2015 at 12:07 PM ^
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November 17th, 2015 at 12:10 PM ^
If he goes straightup Cardale Jones from the end of last year, maybe.
November 17th, 2015 at 12:13 PM ^
He's somewhat limited, but he has played for very respected coaches...NFL folks love Ferentz and obviously Harbaugh. If Harbaugh gives him a stamp of approval, then you don't think someone would take him? Is he more limited than Kirk Cousins? I think he is almost exactly Kirk Cousins.
Aside form that, does he evn have NFL aspirations? Would he rather start his medical schooling/career?
November 17th, 2015 at 12:17 PM ^
He had 1 great game against an awful Indiana D and now he's supposed to be an NFL QB?
If he finished out these last 3 games with killer #'s and does well at the combine, then he maybe worth a late round pick. I think the fact that he didn't play well this season (except for the last 2 games) and was benched at Iowa (another NFL style O) are too negative for Rudock to be drafted, though,
November 17th, 2015 at 1:38 PM ^
Didn't he also have a good game against Rutgers the previous week? And hasn't he been improving over the past few weeks? We're not talking about 1 game in a vacuum.
November 17th, 2015 at 12:19 PM ^
Cardale Jones is 6'5" 250lbs and has a plus arm.
Jake Rudock is 6'3" 208lbs and doesn't have a plus arm.
A three game flash might have been enough to convince GMs that Cardale could meet the potential his physical attributes provided.
I doubt a three game flash would be enough to convince GMs that Jake Rudock can overcome his limited physical attributes.
November 17th, 2015 at 1:52 PM ^
November 17th, 2015 at 3:24 PM ^
was throwing to a wide open Devin Smith (was that his name?) because defenses had to load the box to try to stop Elliott. Don't forget Elliott went for 220, 230, and 246 yards in those three games.
Cardale put up an ADJ QBR of 7.1 against Indiana this season. I don't think that's very good. Jakes ADJ QBR was 92.5.
November 17th, 2015 at 12:20 PM ^
The inevitable scenario: Drafted in 6th round by the patriots. Tom Brady will go down in the playoffs and Rudock will lead them to the super bowl
November 17th, 2015 at 12:26 PM ^
...the Lions or the Browns.
November 17th, 2015 at 12:50 PM ^
November 17th, 2015 at 12:37 PM ^
I'll reserve my own judgement until I see him play out the season. If he's just now clicking with his receivers timing-wise and starts lighting up good defenses, the tone of a lot of people will change and Jim will look like even more of a genius.
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November 17th, 2015 at 12:57 PM ^
Only Sheldon White knows.
November 17th, 2015 at 1:12 PM ^
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November 17th, 2015 at 1:21 PM ^
If you've seen "The Brady 6" a large reason that Brady got drafted was the strength of Carr's recommendation when the Patriots called him. Harbaugh's comments about Rudock in the pressers is one thing. I believe he's giving an honest opinion, but when/if a GM or head coach calls him about Rudock they'll get an unvarnished detailed analysis of his strengths, weaknesses, and potential growth. That and Rudock's performance in the scouting combine will be the deciding factors.
Given all the complaints about college players having insufficient preparation for the NFL, you have to believe, a QB whose demonstrated growth in a pro-style offense under a former very success NFL head coach is gong to get a close look.
November 17th, 2015 at 1:37 PM ^
November 17th, 2015 at 1:50 PM ^
"Jake Ruddock, quarterback, University of Michigan. Screw Iowa."
November 17th, 2015 at 1:51 PM ^
November 17th, 2015 at 1:59 PM ^
Lately he has made some very NFL-like throws as evidenced by the TD in double OT last week and a bunch of others in the last two games.
If I were say, the Lions, with a QB who is not quite a franchise guy, or I were a team rebuilding, Jake might be one I'd look at simply for depth during the rebuild. Assuming my line needs work and I don't want to quite put a franchise guy back there just yet - Jake could be a good option to evaluate while evaluating the team as a whole.
He wouldn't be a high pick so there isn't much to lose and you could be striking gold.
He has now absorbed two offenses, one in a very short time, the latter of which is an NFL scheme!
I'd probably take him over more spread happy options on that alone.
November 17th, 2015 at 2:23 PM ^
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November 17th, 2015 at 9:33 PM ^
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November 17th, 2015 at 2:48 PM ^
If I were an NFL GM, I would certainly draft Jake, after the 5th round due to the perceived value from the rest of the league. However, Jake has enough skills, intelligence and poise to be an NFL starting QB.
He is deceptively athletic, moves well in the pocket, has the most accurate arm in the B10, good arm strength that can get stronger (like Brady's got stronger in the league). All that and he is mentally tough. The kid does not quit.
The NFL will also know that Jake has had a year of tutelige under Harbaugh, and playing in Harbaugh's system. Jim is 1 year removed from being the 2nd best HC in the NFL, so people respect how he coaches, QBs in particular. More points for Jake.
Unless he completely bombs out the rest of the year, Jake is going to play in some Senior Bowl, compete at the Combine and in to the NFL draft.
November 17th, 2015 at 2:53 PM ^
November 17th, 2015 at 6:22 PM ^
Barring a long term NFL career, med school will ways be waiting. In fact, he may be more attractive to med schools after having spent time in the NFL.
November 17th, 2015 at 3:13 PM ^
Who completes 60% of his passes, and throws more TD's than INT's, will at least get a look.
November 17th, 2015 at 3:47 PM ^
0% Chance
November 17th, 2015 at 8:35 PM ^