Who will replace UCLA in 2022, 2023?
When it was announced that we we were dropping UCLA from the football schedule in 2022 and 2023, most assumed an announcement was coming about a renewal with Notre Dame. An announcement did come, but the ND series will renew in 14 years! Which begs the question: who fills in the gap? In looking at future schedules for other programs, the most intriguing options with open dates and available games slots in those years are Florida State, LSU and Stanford. I'd be happy with any of those as potential opponents. I doubt LSU would play us, but would Harbaugh want to play either FSU or Stanford given his connections with the coaches at each school (assuming FSU doesn't fire Taggart)? Any insider info about who we'll play?
October 28th, 2019 at 10:51 AM ^
They announced Hawaii in 2022 and East Carolina in 2023
October 28th, 2019 at 10:57 AM ^
There are only 11 games on the schedule both years so we have more announcements coming. Without looking into it, my guess would be 2023 will be a home G5 cash game and 2022 will be a neutral site or that international game Harbaugh referenced and they will try to move Colorado state out of Labor Day weekend.
EDIT: There is still a possibility they replace UCLA with a P5 team that was willing to switch which years were at home. But I think a neutral and a home against G5 are more likely because you will get massive revenue from a home game on top of the neutral game payout. This will more than make up having to pay for UCLA's buyout plus the payouts for the G5 team.
October 28th, 2019 at 12:18 PM ^
I agree with the addition of a P5 team. Sounds like a great time to schedule the Mad Hatter for a return to Michigan Stadium. Kansas would be perfect fit to fill the void.
October 28th, 2019 at 2:22 PM ^
You sure you want to face a coach as tough as Les Miles? Kansas has already shown clear improvement in 1/2 a season with him. They aren't a doormat anymore. And the nearly beat Texas. The BIG10 is tough enough. Tough games can produce more injuries than the easy games. Michigan has a tough enough conference to play in as it is. They don't need to add tough teams outside the conference.
I understand the idea that you want to have a high level of competition so you have a good looking strength of schedule. But strength of schedule doesn't really matter to the playoff selection committee. You have to win. Remember Washington got in 3 years ago, when most people thought it should have been either Penn St, or maybe even Michigan? But Washington got in because they were 11-1, and both Penn St and Michigan had 2 losses. Penn St and Michigan both had tougher schedules than Washington. But that didn't change the choice. Washington had 1 more win. So they got in. 11-1 looks better on tv than 10-2. Washington ended up getting dominated by Alabama in the 1st round.
And regardless of all the talk that the eye test doesn't matter, it does. How badly you beat a team catches the eye of the committee.
Michigan needs to schedule a very bad team, at home, and then blow them away to kingdom come. I don't like it that it's that way. But it is. So you have to deal with things the way they are.
I really DON'T want Michigan to play a Les Miles team. If strength of schedule mattered, and getting 2 losses wasn't so damaging to your chances of getting into the playoffs, then yes, I'd love to see Michigan vs Kansas. What a cool thing it would be to see Les Miles on one sidelines, and Jim Harbaugh on the other!
But not today. Not now.
October 28th, 2019 at 5:07 PM ^
Les Miles is 65... I doubt he is still coaching in 5 years, let alone still coaching at Kansas.
October 28th, 2019 at 9:04 PM ^
True, it doesn't seem to matter how many cupcakes you schedule. If so, they wouldn't keep rewarding the SEC for playing FCS teams in the last 2 weeks before their final rivalry weekend and only playing 8 conf games.
October 28th, 2019 at 10:51 AM ^
We didn't buy out UCLA to play another P5 program. Michigan is realizing that we were overzealous with NC scheduling, the risk/return doesn't make sense with the higher chance of loss and essentially no end-of-year CFP committee benefit, and it's smarter to just play MAC schools at home.
October 28th, 2019 at 11:02 AM ^
Yep. Eastern (they could just ride bikes over) and Central for the win.
October 28th, 2019 at 11:05 AM ^
Eastern has a transitive win over us this year... Maybe we should schedule easier lol
October 28th, 2019 at 11:22 AM ^
They did last year, too!
EMU > Purdue > OSU > Michigan
October 28th, 2019 at 11:45 AM ^
Fuck. Make it Western then. Ferris?
October 28th, 2019 at 11:56 AM ^
Can we get the university of toronto back on the schedule? We can call it a heritage game and play on a cfl regulation width field(think of the screens). The varsity blues biggest win in program history remains a draw with us in 1879
October 28th, 2019 at 12:21 PM ^
Again, bring on your namesake and schedule Kansas.
October 28th, 2019 at 2:26 PM ^
Ferris or Northern. 84-0.
October 28th, 2019 at 11:45 AM ^
We also have a transitive win over them...so 1-1 against EMU?
On a semi-related note - does anyone remember the map (somewhere on Reddit) which would get updated as teams beat opponents and took over their territory (plus that of any opponents that they had beaten)? Was that a basketball thing?
October 28th, 2019 at 1:06 PM ^
I remember that. It was a football thing.
October 28th, 2019 at 1:39 PM ^
Imperialism Map is what it was called - latest can be found here.
Michigan gets back on the map with the win over ND - seeing Illinois on there this late in the season is just bizarre.
October 28th, 2019 at 1:55 PM ^
Let's get Kent St and Bowling Green on the schedule. Or how about UConn. Whoever will be an easy win and gets all the 3rd stringers in for the 4th qtr. There's enough tough team across the BIG10 to play now as it is. Even Illinois is getting better.
October 28th, 2019 at 1:13 PM ^
I remember when the CFP was announced there was all this talk about SOS and how the CFP would create better NC schedules. Basically it’s come full circle and everything is back to the way it used to be with nothing but cupcakes filling NC schedules.
October 28th, 2019 at 1:49 PM ^
Excellent SAMgO, excellent!
October 28th, 2019 at 10:22 PM ^
Not sure I buy that. Why would Michigan decide to play 3 G5's in 2022 and 2023 when we have Washington in 2020/2021, Texas 2024/2027 and Oklahoma 2025/2026? I think another P5 fills this slot.
October 28th, 2019 at 10:51 AM ^
They announced that it's replaced with Hawaii (2022) and East Carolina (2023). 7 home games is more important to them than who they play. Also, the Playoff Committee agrees...
October 28th, 2019 at 10:56 AM ^
The Wolverines still have open dates Sept. 17 and Nov. 5 during the 2022 season. There are open dates on Sept. 9 and Sept. 30 in 2023.
October 28th, 2019 at 10:59 AM ^
#MACation
October 28th, 2019 at 1:01 PM ^
Yes, please.....
And for the love of God, please tell Warde to stay away from the service academies!
October 28th, 2019 at 2:53 PM ^
and App State...
October 28th, 2019 at 10:54 AM ^
umm, the two schools (Hawaii and ECU) that they announced in the UCLA cancellation announcement...
October 28th, 2019 at 11:26 AM ^
So what about the remaining open date in each of those years?
October 28th, 2019 at 10:55 AM ^
As others have mentioned, opponents have already been announced. But the bigger point: FSU, LSU, or Stanford will probably not schedule a one-off game with us without a reciprocal visit. Maybe those reciprocal visits can be arranged in later years and still allow us 7 home games, but it's a difficult logistical challenge.
October 28th, 2019 at 12:34 PM ^
As others have pointed there are still open dates in those years that need to be filled.
October 28th, 2019 at 10:55 AM ^
Pretty sure they just announced Hawaii and ECU a day or two ago. Should be two easy G5 wins and one less barrier to playoff contention.
I'm alright with dropping UCLA, to be honest. They don't move the needle much nationally, even with Kelly appearing to get things stabilized. But I do hope we don't drop the Texas and Oklahoma series. Those games would suck to lose off the schedule.
October 28th, 2019 at 10:56 AM ^
To everyone saying they replaced UCLA with Hawaii and East Carolina, Hawaii and East Carolina still only give them 11 games on the schedule and 1 slot left to fill, each year.
October 28th, 2019 at 10:58 AM ^
Hmmm...didn't realize this info when I posted my comment above about scheduling a home-and-home with a P5 school and still having 7 home games.
October 28th, 2019 at 11:00 AM ^
Correct. While they did add ECU and Hawaii, they still have only 11 games scheduled and 2 open dates in 2022 and 2023. Also, 2022 has 7 home dates, but 2023 only has 6.
2022 open dates: Sep 17, Nov 5
2022 OOC opponents: Home vs. Colorado State (9/3) and Hawaii (9/10)
2022 Home opponents (7): CSU, Hawaii, Maryland, PSU, Nebraska, Illinois, Indiana
2023 open dates: Sep 9, Sep 30
2023 OOC opponents: Home vs. ECU (9/2) and Bowling Green (9/16)
2022 home opponents (6): ECU, BG, msu, Purdue, Rutgers, osu
October 28th, 2019 at 11:09 AM ^
How many years out do we think matter? At some point I think the P5 becomes a P4, and then everyone's schedule changes anyways...
October 28th, 2019 at 10:58 AM ^
I heard a rumor.... Alabama home and away, 2055-2056!!!!
October 28th, 2019 at 11:07 AM ^
Alabama will be coached by Nick Saban’s head in a jar
October 28th, 2019 at 11:23 AM ^
Great....works out just great!
Those are the year's the team is going to Mars and Uranus to bond before the season.....
October 28th, 2019 at 12:37 PM ^
You said Uranus. Hahaha.
October 28th, 2019 at 2:58 PM ^
Mmmm, wasn't that '57, '58?
October 28th, 2019 at 11:14 AM ^
Maybe we're going to Dallas again.
October 28th, 2019 at 1:19 PM ^
I hope!
October 28th, 2019 at 2:00 PM ^
J.R. is down.
October 28th, 2019 at 11:23 AM ^
This board wants creampuff teams because winning is hard.
October 28th, 2019 at 11:36 AM ^
Seriously, these "stop playing difficult opponents because it hurts your chances to make the playoff" arguments make my skin crawl.
Nobody who was at Saturday's game should have been arguing "man, I wish Michigan were playing East Carolina right now."
October 28th, 2019 at 11:47 AM ^
Exactly, I chalk it up to loser mentality. Hell, that stadium would have been half full after halftime on Saturday if it weren't for #8 ND.
You have 1 undefeated team, and 7 1-loss power 5 teams, I'm glad Michigan played the powerhouses of Eastern Michigan and Tulane to help their resume.
Not saying Michigan should be playing Alabama every year but I thought it would have been awesome to play UCLA in a series.
October 28th, 2019 at 12:57 PM ^
That's bullshit. Clamoring for tougher schedules out of one side of your mouth while complaining about Harbaugh's record against ranked opponents, lack of conference titles and playoff appearances out of the other is hypocritical. If you look at those programs who have routinely appeared in the CFP, you see programs that have great talent, but also have meh schedules.
There's something to be said for not having to bring your A-game week-in and week-out throughout the season. Less punishment gets inflicted on your starters. You can spend more time gameplanning for higher profile games. Do you know how many ranked teams Alabama has had to play thusfar? None. You know how many they'll have played by the end of the season? Two. Clemson? None. By the end of the season? Probably none. Ohio State? Two which will eventually be four.
Michigan has a harder schedule than any team in the Top 5 without playing Notre Dame, so clamor all you want for better quality opponents, but you have to accept that you're probably putting yourself at a disadvantage for end-of-season accolades. Pretending that Michigan in the past held themselves to some mythical higher standard that was routinely met is just being dishonest.
In a college football environment where players are more and more free to change teams at will coupled with having to win divisions before you can win a championship and then have a zero or single loss total to even have a prayer of moving onto a playoff to compete for a national title; programs should consider being more strategic about their scheduling.
October 28th, 2019 at 1:04 PM ^
I don't care about end-of-season accolades. That has always been little but a popularity contest (see: Bo never winning a national title, despite having the best team in the country at least twice).
Michigan absolutely held themselves to a higher standard in the past. And what have they gotten for lowering their standards, anyway?
The 1997 non-conference schedule was Notre Dame, Baylor, and Colorado.
October 28th, 2019 at 1:33 PM ^
Colorado was ranked #8 when we snuffed them out 27-3.
October 28th, 2019 at 3:27 PM ^
1997 was a once in a 70 year event. I'm OK with your opinion by the way that you want to walk the hard road to greatness, but that means we have to accept stumbling a lot. What I take issue with are posters on here who seem to think that Michigan should play the hardest schedule in the country and achieve Alabama and Clemson level of results year-in and year-out. Historically, that hasn't been the level of performance that Michigan has been able to achieve.