?Vaccine or Negative Test Required to Attend UM Games Starting 1/1/22

Fluid dynamics is a tough field for most people. A nickel for every person I've seen who's perfectly OK seven feet from someone with a coughing fit in a restaurant ("It's cool ... we're socially distanced.") but nervous when three feet from someone outside on a windy day. This unfortunately includes upper management at my employer.

did they require it for the suites?

"outside in open air"

literally packed in shoulder to shoulder everyone yelling, shouting... please.

Indy is "indoor" but it is huge.  If they have decent air filtration/air circulation it should be mostly ok.

It's all about amount of virus x time breathing it in.   So if they circulate the air well and have filtration on it, it should be fine.  That's why (up till Omicron) very few people were getting sick on airplanes---they filter the air very rapidly.   The amount of dilution provided by the huge stadium should be similar to being outside IF the air isn't too stagnant.  

 

The problem with "more likely" is that no concrete assurance is given. You are not anyway near bullet proof if you are vaccinated, you are just "safer." Safer most likely means you will avoid the hospital but it could also mean your Colin Powell. Currently, its fair to conclude you will eventually get sick and you can spread the virus. If this were not the case then a push to get a booster shot would not exist.

You can still get the virus and you can still spread it and that is why policies like the one presented will end in failure. Honestly the University would be better suited to empty the arena for the games again.

Unvaccinated are more likely to get Covid and if they pass it along to spread covid.

I'm not sure we have the data with omicron to say what percentage unvaccinated people are more likely to test positive than vaccinated folks.  It certainly seems quite a bit less than previous strains.

They are also significantly more likely to need hospitalization

Some people being more likely to be hospitalized based on their choices is nothing new.  Obese people are a lot more likely to get hospitalized too.  In fact, I bet one could create a compelling argument that physical fitness is more protective than vaccines at preventing hospitalization from Covid, but we aren't requiring anyone to be fit.  We let people do unhealthy things all the time that strain the medical system.

Until we get to the point that we don’t have to worry about overcrowded hospitals unvaccinated people pose a significantly greater health risk to society than vaccinated.

One, the goal posts are always moving as to when it's over.  When do we accept this is where we are and get rid of all the restrictions and let people live again?  At one point the promise was when there was a vaccine.  That didn't happen.  You're saying when hospitals are not overcrowded.  What exactly does that mean?  How do when know when we've reached it?  If the hospitals are fine in my state, county, city, etc can we stop worrying about who's vaccinated?  Or does everyone nationwide need to get there?  Two, I think that's a misrepresentation of the data.  Healthy people under the age of 60ish don't pose a high risk of hospitalization with or without vaccination.  This is a serious disease of the sick and the elderly.  For the vast majority of everyone else it is a mild sickness.  The harder, more ethical question has always been do people at low risk have an obligation to get vaccination based on the assumed benefit to those at higher risk.  There are no easy answers to that one.

I am sure they are aware that current policies have created the unecessary layoffs and retirement of medical professionals at a time when demand for services are at an all time high; not very wise. 

We were heading that way regardless due to the aging boomer population but covid gave it that extra push. 

You were required to upload a picture of your vacc card to a phone app and answer questions (whether you recently had covid or symptoms, etc). Once the vacc card was loaded, I received a text from Duke athletics department which navigated me to screen that I presented at the security line. I think it was a QR code, but I don't remember. I attached what is left of the text msg link:

Let's Go Blue!!

LGB!! 

Beat Georgia!!

It obviously means "Lets Go Blue" and couldn't possibly mean anything else. ;)

LGB means Let's Go Blue. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you dude?

Jesus Christ, really?

Woke implies that you are aware and attentive to injustices.  Are you not woke? If not, read up and look around.   If you are woke, are you embarrassed or ashamed, sans proud?

GFY!  GFY!  GFY!

I mean to be fair, driving your car back and forth to work each day is a choice that affects all future generations but you don't see people jumping on a Michigan sports forum to argue about it.

I'm not sure if I need a  /s or not?