FauxMo

November 14th, 2017 at 7:11 AM ^

They bribe recruits. Not with bagmen, not with women, not with drugs... But with cheese. Large blocks of savory cheese. Delicious, robust, savory cheese plates... 

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Everyone Murders

November 14th, 2017 at 7:43 AM ^

I'm just gonna note that the team also seems to be comprised of a lot of gritty, heady, lunch-box, gym rat, grinder, sneaky athletic players as compared to many other programs.  Recruiting locally is about the best possible explanation for that trend.

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Winthorpe. Louis III

November 14th, 2017 at 5:26 PM ^

Patrick Ferrucci, Edson C. Tandoc. (2017). Race and the Deep Ball: Applying Stereotypes to NFL Quarterbacks. International Journal of Sport Communication. Volume:10 Issue: 1 Pages:41-57 doi: 10.1123/ijsc.2016-0074

This study experimentally tested whether White participants (N = 274) applied stereotypes to Black and White professional quarterbacks. Using common stereotypical descriptors established in prior research, this between-subjects experiment found that while the participants did not stereotype White quarterbacks, they did apply the stereotypes of “physically strong” and “naturally gifted” to Black quarterbacks, thus othering, or using race to establish an out group. These results are interpreted through the framework of social-identity theory.

Key words (my insertion): fast twitch, long, athletic, raw, fluid, good frame

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Chitown_Badger

November 14th, 2017 at 5:40 PM ^

"participants did not stereotype White quarterbacks, they did apply the stereotypes of “physically strong” and “naturally gifted” to Black quarterbacks, thus othering, or using race to establish an out group. "

That's because white quarterbacks are nose to the grindstone guys who just give 110%. For them, it's really about the name on the front of the jersey anyway, so they don't care if they're considered strong or gifted.

(I'm pretty confident I didn't miss the point)

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UMxWolverines

November 14th, 2017 at 8:08 AM ^

Does this article reinforce that maybe there is something to the "Michigan Man" thing? All of OSU's successful coaches have been from Ohio or had a connection to Ohio, and the one that wasn't struggled against us. Nebraska is looking for their native son to return in Frost, Dantonio coached at MSU before he became head coach.

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UMxWolverines

November 14th, 2017 at 8:57 AM ^

Not talking about just the program itself. Bo had ties to Ohio, right next door. Ara had ties to Ohio and Illinois right next door to Notre Dame, Saban is the exception not the rule. We're talking about one of the best coaches of all time. It just seems like Midwest born/raised coaches have had the best results at Midwest programs.

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LSAClassOf2000

November 14th, 2017 at 8:25 AM ^

For some reason, I remember Alvarez talking about recruiting the state of Wisconsin years ago and touching on this strategy. It really is interesting when you think about how largely overlooked the state is by everyone else historically, to see a university run with that and make it their own and do well in the process. 

Isn't the Badgers' staff, right down to the lowliest of ranks, basically a wall of Badger alums too? I mean, I knew about Chryst and Leonhard (I remember watching Leonhard play definitely) and a couple others, but you don't find that very often either.

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Perkis-Size Me

November 14th, 2017 at 8:51 AM ^

Well, typically Wisconsin isn't known for producing a lot of highly rated players. Whether that's actually true or the state is just perceived that way because it's not Ohio or the South, I don't know. Probably a little of both. But it definitely serves to Wisconsin's advantage that the state is ignored, and also couple that with the fact that, like OSU, they have no instate rival to battle with for recruits. Save for the occasional blue-chipper like Bredeson, they have their pick of the litter instate. 

I give them credit where credit is due. They know what they're looking for, and they find ways to bring in a bunch of big ol' dairy boys out from the pastures and coach them up into big, nasty OL that can stand toe to toe with most anyone in the country. It's been their MO for years. I remember a stat a few years back that the average weight of a Wisconsin lineman was more than that of the average weight of a Green Bay lineman. 

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