Rutgers Snowflakes: The Offense

Submitted by LSAClassOf2000 on September 26th, 2021 at 4:00 PM

This is the thread for snowflakes regarding the offense and offensive playcalling.

gbdub

September 25th, 2021 at 10:58 PM ^

Not that this will actually help anyone's BPONE... but #4 Oklahoma just beat unranked West Virginia only 16-13, in a game they never actually led until the last-second game winning field goal. 

BlueMk1690

September 25th, 2021 at 11:32 PM ^

I went out shopping at halftime, came back and saw that Michigan had had essentially 3 first downs in the hours I had been gone. Did not see that coming, even though you could tell Rutgers was starting to key in on the run game toward the end of the 1st half. I just thought "our coaches will make adjustments too and will exploit the fact they're selling out to stop the running game". Whoops.

HollywoodHokeHogan

September 26th, 2021 at 12:40 AM ^

Harbaugh was hired as an offensive coach with a speciality in quarterbacks.  Nearly every year, his team depends on the defense to win games (or not, see last season) and the quarterback play is disappointing.  Seriously, other than last year has he ever had a team with an offense ranked higher than its defense? Harbaugh coaches as if he has the 1985 Bears defense regardless of what he has.

 

He’s still doing this even now in year seven with a defense that has only average overall talent and is in the midst of a wholesale reboot by a first year coordinator.  The offense that scored a whole fucking 20 points today against Rutgers is run by a junior quarterback who has had the same OC for three seasons.  The defense that held them under 14 points is coached by a host of brand new coaches.

Harbaugh hasn’t developed a college quarterback since Andrew Luck.  He has never had an elite offense.  His best seasons here were built on an elite defense.  Hell, even now the best part of the offense sure as hell isn’t the quarterback.


The only success he’s had is because he made some good hires.  The stuff he is most involved in is the worst stuff.   He is the problem. 
 

 

BlueinLansing

September 26th, 2021 at 1:42 AM ^

Rutgers is at least a competent defensive team.   Some of our offensive ineptness was just 2nd half missed passes and some stubborn play calling.  We really barely had the ball the 2nd half, never got any momentum going.  Hit those passes and this game was never in danger.

Great job by Corum and oline salting it away when needed.

BlueinLansing

September 26th, 2021 at 11:47 AM ^

We got the ball back with 5 minutes and change to play and having picked up zero 2nd half first downs.  Corum and the oline took a solid 3 minutes off the clock out of absolutely nothing when they desperately needed it.  Rutgers wasn't going to go the length of the field in 1:44.  They did enough, despite a stupid play call and a stupid read on 3rd down that forced the punt.

Preacher Mike

September 26th, 2021 at 8:54 AM ^

This is exactly right. Cade made about three bad throws in the second half which would have converted first downs and totally changed the tenor of that half and given the defense the breather it needed but wasn't getting. Couple that with very conservative play calling on third downs and you got what you got. It is all fixable, although McNamara’s lack of poise when facing a modicum of pressure is something that can’t be ignored. 

FB Dive

September 26th, 2021 at 2:41 AM ^

What's frustrating is that a 9-year-old could call better plays. Seriously, don't fucking run on 3rd & 10. Don't run when there are 8 guys in the box. It's not that hard.

At this point, I don't care whether it works, I care whether it makes sense. This is Madden-level simplicity and Gattis/Harbaugh (who knows who's calling plays) just doesn't get it. It's just fucking embarrassing and I don't get how it get's fixed unless the coaches can admit their play calling is divorced from logic.

And yeah, Cade isn't cutting it. Missing easy throws, locking into the first read. What a common theme from the Harbaugh era. Shocking how a supposed QB guru can't develop a single quarterback in (*checks notes*) 7 years. Amazing how a single game can destroy the confidence built up over an entire month. At least we won. In theory, we can right the ship at Wisconsin. History suggests this isn't likely

TennesseeMaize

September 26th, 2021 at 6:41 AM ^

What specifically would you change if you were Gattis/Harbaugh? What plays would you run? I’m genuinely curious, not being snarky. 
 

I think I would use Henning more often, quick slants to receivers to rebuild Cade’s confidence, roll out Cade on most running plays so that he can sell a fake more authentically when it’s pass time. Also, I’d put in more misdirection prior to the snap. 

mitchewr

September 26th, 2021 at 12:43 PM ^

It's not all THAT complicated. You attack the whatever weakness the defense is presenting to you. In this game, Rutgers sold out to stop the run up the middle, which meant they were presenting a weakness in the middle of the field for passing as well on the edges.

What do the geniouses in our coaching braintrust do? Run right into the middle of the defensive line, completely ignoring the yards that were there to be taken over the middle and to the edges. 

The other week, in response to a post-game question, Harbaugh responded "we're just trying to move the ball". Well, if that's truly the case, then what the fuck were they trying to do yesterda? We all hoped they ran almost every play against the first three teams just because that was a defensive weakness and they were exploiting it...I'm now starting to think that's giving the coaching staff too much credit...

Midukman

September 26th, 2021 at 7:50 AM ^

Cade just doesn’t have it and that’s unfortunate. He’s like a pitcher who can’t find the strike zone. I know Harbaughs loyal to a fault when it comes to his qbs, but he’s coaching for his job. I’d start Cade next week and if the jitters and happy feet show up then put in McCarthy. JJ is full of confidence and arrogance and that’s a good thing right now. Keep running into brick walls like yesterday and the teams gonna quit on him like years prior. 

mtblue

September 26th, 2021 at 9:11 AM ^

I’m not much of an analyst, but did anyone else think Cade’s motion looked really weird on the rare throws late?  At any rate, he’s not right.

Beat Rutgerland

September 26th, 2021 at 9:38 AM ^

Here's my problem with the offense: if I'm a d-coordinator against M I call an 8-man box looking for an inside run every single play except 3rd and long until M proves it can beat it with multiple touchdowns.

Cade missing throws is what it is, but I don't understand why they can never give him anything easy. I mean, is there a screen in the playbook?

dickdastardly

September 26th, 2021 at 9:41 AM ^

From what I witnessed yesterday, the old Michigan offense decided it wasn't ready to retire yet. 

 

Where is that speed in space? 

 

It's not that I was shocked to see it. Old habits die hard and we do know that Jim loves to do the same thing over and over and over. 

 

The one good thing is that Cade hasn't turned the ball over. On the flip side, Michigan's D has a hard time catching balls that have a good chance of being intercepted and tackling  in space still seems to be an issue

Blastardz

September 26th, 2021 at 11:02 AM ^

I think harbaugh should have sat Cade.  He obviously had something going on which manifested during the second half.  It’s ok to sit your starter and debrief to assess his mind.  Put JJ in and let him taste the B1G play.  Michigan is constantly tripping over it’s own feet, year after fucking year and it’s frustrating.

nickelsarcade

September 26th, 2021 at 11:31 AM ^

What surprises me is Harbaugh’s fundamental unwillingness to change even when his job is on the line. He’s gone through perhaps the most humiliating decline in college football over the last 7 years. And despite all that humiliation he still can’t change even the most basic things which every Michigan fan can tell you needs to be fixed. Strange psyche with this guy. 

ALeafOnTheWind

September 26th, 2021 at 11:45 AM ^

After reading all these comments, my thoughts are these:

1) The problem is mostly playcalling. The 3rd-and-12 run in the third quarter in Rutgers territory said it all. And I think that "pack it in" mentality hits the players, not just the coaches, and everybody gets sluggish. As others have said, it's reminiscent of the Army game. Gattis seems to get into this turtle mindset at times.

2) I think people should understand that McNamara probably isn't making the wrong reads on option plays. There are no option plays. Every damn one of those plays is a fake read. When he kept in the fourth quarter he didn't have a read, just certain doom.

3) I get why people want it, but I just cannot say I want McCarthy in. Given the playcalling issues, I doubt it would make a lot of difference even if he did turn out to be substantially better than McNamara. He should be good. He's not Trevor Lawrence. And it's too easy to ruin young QBs. Obviously if Cade goes out against someone and just looks like he can't be a D1 quarterback, then you have to get to functional and maybe McCarthy can be that. But my preference is to stick with Cade for now.

AlbanyBlue

September 26th, 2021 at 2:56 PM ^

You make the case for JJ being put in in the second half yourself -- Cade was not functioning as a D1 QB in the second half.

Now if you want to say that JJ shouldn't start in Madison, I get that, but he should have definitely been put in against Rutgers.

Also, the playcalling is different when JJ is in. There are reads, and he executes them correctly. He also throws a better ball. He may not make the same quality throwing decisions as Cade at this point in his career, but he's definitely better on the reads. He should have been put in.

ALeafOnTheWind

September 26th, 2021 at 3:44 PM ^

As I said, I understand the sentiment, I just don't agree with that assessment. I don't think Cade was a sub-D1 quarterback even in the second half. Going back to the ESPN play-by-play, he wasn't even given a lot of chances to pass in the second half. (On the first one he had a blitzer in his face immediately.) He missed some guys, for sure--I'm not saying he was Tom Brady out there--but it's possible to overdo the criticism. I also don't think we know much about how they would call plays for McCarthy in a competitive situation. *At this point* I think the best estimate of the number of extra wins we get by using McCarthy rather than McNamara is zero.

Finally, I would just reiterate that it's easy as anything to ruin a good young QB by putting them in tough spots too early in their career. I think it's worth avoiding that if we can possibly help it.

joeismyname

September 26th, 2021 at 1:51 PM ^

(Copy paste from what I wrote in the offensive every snap video thread, this to me tells a huge story of offensive production in second half)

16 total plays the second half. 16!

I think 5 had real success considering down and distance, 3 others were sure first down if the ball was thrown well, 1 of those 3 was probably at least a 30 yard gainer had he hit All over the middle. 
 

4 run plays actually worked pretty well considering down and distance, another Cade should have not kept and we probably have 6-8 yards from Corum. 
 

Haskins i think made a cut to the left on one run where he should have kept going to a lane in the middle and probably gets 5 yards on either 1st or second down. 
 

I think we are going to see more story of this game was defensive confusion and not getting off the field. Again, I don’t think we can stress enough how important from a leadership, assignment and alignment perspective it was when Josh Ross isnt out there calling the defense on the field. 
And also Cade had 3 bad missed throws that were all relatively easy first downs, one a huge gainer. 
 

this is all fixable, the defense will be a major focus I think in practice, as well as Cade’s timing, and maybe feeling the heat from JJ too. 
 

and again this is all just me looking at the second half, I have no real concerns from the first minus the missed TD throw in the end zone 

i have a feeling based on sheer number of plays in second half, offensive UFR comes out better than expected overall considering the score and perception of second half offense. Defense UFR up front another story in second half.

burtcomma

September 26th, 2021 at 8:13 PM ^

Anyone else notice that Rutgers started 7 seniors and 4 juniors on Defense?  Interesting times with a non-counted Covid year.  They are also the no. 8 rated Scoring Defense in the country year to date.  Not saying we did not have our own issues, but I did find this interesting.  

Mgoczar

September 26th, 2021 at 11:22 PM ^

yea a pretty veteran defense actually. Michigan played poorly in second half. I rewatched that game and Cade was not setting feet and made some terrible throws. Guys were open but he was very jittery. I think THIS season JJ will replace him if he has another couple of these iffy game. 

Michigan needs to aggressively recruit QBs and WRs.