Ron English? Why not Hermann or Mallory?

Our offense is great.  Our defense is terrible.  I hate this phrase, but here it goes anyways: don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

Agreed. They already slapped him in the face. If he came back it would be shocking. Also, I don't think he would be successful here in any function.

You should have picked something more outrageous as your illustration. I could totally see that happening.

Now that Lloyd is no longer working in the AD, the chance of Ron English returning as some type of coach is somewhere around 0%.

This is what I want as well and think is the best solution.  I think Rod and DB should sit down after the season and hire the best available D coordinator out there that is willing to come to Michigan.  That coord should be able to hire his own staff, no questions.  Getting rid of Gerg and keeping the others would be another huge mistake and I would rather keep Gerg than this happen.  My question is, would Rod allow this to happen?  Not that he would really have a choice really, but I would wonder if he would be willing to go along with this plan.  

I know they are freshman, but last night was the tipping point for me.  Not that I get a vote, I guess.  I am tired of seeing poor tackling, poor angles, and UM's D making average teams and players look like all americans.  

Go Blue

You and me both.  I am hanging ALL my hope on Brandon at this point.  And I'm also girding my loins for the possibility that he will make a decision I don't agree with and what a test of my faith in him that will represent.  FWIW - Don makes an excellent point on Brandon and what is likely to happen in the "Perception vs Reality" post.

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(Take this FWIW, which is not much.)

I think these arguments become emotional very quickly. The offense is good, pushing great, and the defense is terrible. Since people associate RR with his schemes on offense, and rightly so, they don't see him as responsible for the D even though he should be held accountable. 

At the same time, a coach cannot put that much emphasis on the offense and still have time to sort out all of the D's problems.

People give RR the benefit of the doubt based on youth because he's not the primary one who has taken on the task of developing that youth. That is GERG's main focus.

We're paying Rodriguez to coach the team, and half of the team is functioning at a level capable of contending in the B10. We're paying GERG to coach the defense, and that's the part that's falling apart. At least we're getting something out of the money we're spending on RR.

I'm of the opinion that if we give RR and GERG another year we'll see great improvement on D, a la the offense the last couple of years. However, if we're going to get rid of someone, I'd rather have it be GERG and avoid losing all of the progress RR has made.

Now I'm rambling. I hate trying to justify my frustration with my hope for the future. I love this team, and I just want what's best for them.

really call a very good defensive game either.  I realize he has little to work with, but I have never been impressed with his onfield calls since he arrived.

I know it sounds crazy, but Moeller made his bones as Bo's defensive coordinator.  He is certainly not a candidate for head coach so Rodriguez wouldn't be looking over his shoulder.  He's old, but not that old.  He is a fiery guy...and half of playing good defense is not just being in position to make plays but to have an attitude about playing defense.  GERG's defensive players seem paralyzed by inaction because they are so afraid of making mistakes,  I can pretty much guarantee that Moeller's defenses wouldn't be the worst in college football !