Please don't be douchebags
We're about to lose a game.
To all who are about to complain about RichRod, please don't be douchebags. It's a game we were supposed to lose.
Maybe I'm out of line or just on my toes because of all of the douchebag comments this year after any loss, and if that's the case then just calm down. But I'm pretty sure people are going to be saying "Harbaugh" a whole bunch after the game and if so, I think you should just sit on something pointy and shut the fuck up.
That being said, Go Blue. Beat the Buckeyes.
Edit: Mods, if you feel it necessary to take it off then fine, I'm just sick of the...douchebaggy post-loss talk.
November 20th, 2010 at 2:40 PM ^
We're not supposed to lose any games
November 20th, 2010 at 2:43 PM ^
Ain't 100%. If sarcastic, I apologize. If not: kill thyself.
Kidding, but....well, yeah...
November 20th, 2010 at 2:46 PM ^
just dont agree that there is any game that Michigan is "supposed to" lose
November 20th, 2010 at 3:06 PM ^
Wow, I ws 100% convinced that this was sarcasm. Damn internet.
November 20th, 2010 at 3:32 PM ^
God, we've become State fans: We now expect to lose against good teams. And we're happy when it's not a complete embarrassment (oh and now we also play the If this this and that went the other way we maybe could've won).
November 20th, 2010 at 3:39 PM ^
of some people actually can look at a roster and have a reasonable expectation that Wisconsin would win today based on the current state of both rosters. It's not like the Michigan fans who didn't think Michigan would win today were cheering for Wisconsin.
November 20th, 2010 at 3:40 PM ^
is becoming Notre Dame; the inability to accept reality (a precursor to moving forward) is WAY worse than cautious pessimism.
Michigan is decent-to-good this year. But it is not great, and is far from elite. Accepting that fact, especially when Michigan is returning 20 offensive and defensive starters next year and better times lie ahead, hardly makes us Sparty.
November 20th, 2010 at 4:02 PM ^
I've always hated the mentality that so many Michigan fans have that if we lose one game they're on the ledge waiting to jump. I've dealt with it my entire life and it makes me sick. Am I happy about the loss? No. But, I'm not going to wallow in pity about it. I'm going to be in front of the TV or in the stadium every Saturday for the rest of my life because I love the team, not for any other reason. Let's move on, go beat Ohio State and win our bowl game. The offseason is the time to bitch and moan about an unsatisfactory season, anyway. Are you really going to feel this way if we win our next two games?
November 20th, 2010 at 3:33 PM ^
i agree. we're not "supposed" to lose any games. we may not be favored to win and that's OK- it's not the end of the world to lose a game- but I never go into a game thinking "we're supposed to lose this game"
what happened today is exactly what michigans team is right now:
good offense (mostly in the 2nd half)
bad defense
NO SURPRISES!
no reason to freak out or panic. but michigan is never "supposed" to lose. ask the players if they were supposed to lose and they'd tell you to GTFO
November 20th, 2010 at 3:48 PM ^
Good young offense with some stars.
Much younger defense that keeps fighting, even when the more experienced stars get injured.
True freshmen facing 5th-yr seniors. Kids right out of highschool facing behemoths about to go to the NFL. And they did make plays. Not enough, of course, but they did make plays.
Sure, I'd like them to win, but I'm a realist too. I love David just having the courage to go out there and face Goliath. They have another Goliath to face next week, and they're not going to give up then either.
I love this team, and I love to see them growing.
November 20th, 2010 at 7:00 PM ^
i agree they played hard and with a lot of heart and i can always stand behind my team when they lose honorably.
especially with next weeks game, i refuse to have the attitude that we're "supposed" to lose. these kids play too hard and although i'd be surprised, i wouldn't be shocked if they pulled it out next week. this team plays with more heart than the buckeyes ever have.
November 21st, 2010 at 2:38 AM ^
How do you quantify that? A Heart-O-Meter?
November 20th, 2010 at 7:51 PM ^
This game was a little disappointing, but going in it was pretty clear that we weren't going to beat Wisconsin if they executed well, and with a few exceptions they executed very well.
What we saw today was the same team we've seen all year:
The offense blew hot and cold and struggled early, but ultimately played well enough to win. Against a good defense, we had 3 long TD drives, 1 shortish TD drive, and 1 long drive that ended in a short FG attempt.
The defense has too many guys who would be redshirts or little-used backups on an average defense, and as such cannot stand up to strong offenses who are playing well.
Field goals are a problem.
November 20th, 2010 at 3:08 PM ^
Vegas hasn't gotten that message. They were operating under the assumption that the #7 team in the country should have won this game.
Fools.
November 20th, 2010 at 3:20 PM ^
I'm gonna be givin' out a lot of negs today if this keeps up.
November 20th, 2010 at 3:27 PM ^
If you didn't think we were supposed to lose today, you're nuts. Wisconsin is better than us. They are the best team in the Big Ten.
November 20th, 2010 at 4:22 PM ^
as a Michigan fan you could reasonably expect to beat teams like Wisconsin. That's no longer the case.
November 20th, 2010 at 5:53 PM ^
Obviously we're all Michigan fans here so I agree let's cut through the vitriol. That said, there should be a reasonable forum to discuss our coaching staff in a non-douchey manner.
November 21st, 2010 at 4:44 AM ^
The problem, as i see it, is this...
Harbaugh's not going to be available to us after this off-season. He's going to get a major NFL or college (Georgia?) job.
If RichRod ends up not working out, and Harbaugh is no longer a candidate, then who are we going to hire?
Miles/Schiano/Ferentz - all turned us down already. English, DeBord, Hoke, Trgovac!?
November 20th, 2010 at 2:42 PM ^
You will not be able to change their minds. Even if we were winning they would still want him. I will be waiting until the end of the year to decide.
Also, don't be get angry when people have a difference of opinion. You are entering douchebag territory when you enforce your opinion on others.
November 20th, 2010 at 3:20 PM ^
At this point I could go for keeping RR or replacing him if Harbaugh was the hire. Either would be fine by this fan. RR is improving and deserves another season, but I have a feeling that Harbaugh is going to be a really successful coach for a long, long time. Of course Harbaugh might bolt for the NFL at some point, a move RR is not likely to do, so there is that as well.
Just no Hoke (or any other realistic replacement) please.
November 20th, 2010 at 4:42 PM ^
I'd be up for just a new DC, or getting rid of the whole thing and starting over. However, I'm really not interested in listening to people yell about "What NEEDS to happen" for the next few weeks.
November 20th, 2010 at 6:14 PM ^
I'm pretty much in the same boat but I'm not so sure that RR "deserves" another season because he hasn't really done anything to earn it (ie, beat a decent team). The team has gotten better but it's not like they're anywhere near top tier Big Ten level and there's really no reason to think that they will be next year (especially when Nebraska enters the mix).
November 20th, 2010 at 9:14 PM ^
I'm moving into this camp as well. Whether the solution is to retain RR and get a new DC, or to go out and get Harbaugh, I don't even care - I just want to see the program get fixed.
November 20th, 2010 at 9:38 PM ^
Agree with you all. I've been in the moderate camp since the PSU loss. I am fine with whatever DB decides. It's interesting how many arguments can be made either way with RR. Regardless, it's clear some form of change must happen.
November 20th, 2010 at 2:42 PM ^
I still say we spin around and give everyone the double middle finger anyway. GO BLUE, lets beat the Buckeyes
November 20th, 2010 at 2:42 PM ^
"It's a game we were supposed to lose."
November 20th, 2010 at 2:44 PM ^
I thought we had a chance, and watching this 2nd half, if we didn't have such a miserable 1st half (esp. 2nd quarter) it'd be a whole new ball game. What I meant was that we were picked by the experts to lose, they're 7th while we're unranked, etc.
November 20th, 2010 at 3:09 PM ^
I herebye dub you, the author of this thread, is the biggest douche in all of Michigan fandom.
November 20th, 2010 at 3:42 PM ^
I hereby dub the author of this thread rubber, and you glue.
Deal with it.
November 20th, 2010 at 2:45 PM ^
My heart told me Michigan was going to win, but my mind said Wisco is too experienced and mature to lose this game.
November 20th, 2010 at 3:54 PM ^
So you took the rational approach but...
November 20th, 2010 at 2:45 PM ^
a HUGE mistake IMO if Rich Rod fired. As others have stated before, this offense is on the verge of something special in the next couple of years. As long as we get a competent defensive staff for next year that can provide us with just a medicore defense, Michigan will be in contention for a Big Ten or even a National Title
Go Blue!!!
November 20th, 2010 at 3:12 PM ^
"As long as we get a competent defensive staff for next year that can provide us with just a medicore defense"
Stop right there!!! That is terrible football philosophy. This isn't Madden football.
November 20th, 2010 at 4:16 PM ^
A mediocre defense w/ this offense= Oregon= #1 team in the nation. Confused. Please clarify.
November 20th, 2010 at 4:57 PM ^
with 17.2 points against. So Top Ten = mediocre? No.
November 20th, 2010 at 5:28 PM ^
I don't know why he chose Oregon as the example. It is definitely Auburn.
- 75th in pass efficiency defense
- 98th in pass yards allowed
- 83rd in punt returns
- 12th in rushing defense (so that's pretty good BUT I imagine most teams abandon the run since Auburn scores so many points)
- 58th in scoring defense
- 51st in total yardage allowed
- 99th in net punting (although that is not our problem at all)
So they are completely average in total defense and scoring defense. They are terrible in pass defense. With a mediocre defense they are the number 2 team in the country.
A below average defense instead of a terrible one would almost certainly have given us at least 2 more wins this year.
November 20th, 2010 at 2:45 PM ^
"Hey if you disagree with me FUCK YOU." How great this blog has become.
November 20th, 2010 at 2:48 PM ^
That's not what I said. I'm just saying, we're on track with our pre-season expectations but some people were set on bitching about RichRod. You're entitled to your opinion but this is a Michigan football blog, not a complain about Michigan football blog when they've met expectations without exceeding them.
November 20th, 2010 at 2:51 PM ^
Yeah and maybe everyone doesn't agree with what's going on, and has something to say about it. This team has clearly not met everyone's expectations, thus people are dissapointed.
November 20th, 2010 at 3:06 PM ^
What exactly were their delusional expectations?
November 20th, 2010 at 3:07 PM ^
was that we would have a poor defense but NOT clock in as the worst in the NCAA. We are terrible at everything we do defensively and we have shown zero improvement all season. That was not expected.
November 20th, 2010 at 4:38 PM ^
The defense has shown 0 improvement all season? That isn't correct.
November 20th, 2010 at 6:05 PM ^
I'm being serious as I would love to have some hope for improvement.
November 20th, 2010 at 6:23 PM ^
No you wouldn't. Freshmen and sophomores either getting better at new positions or getting better period isn't enough for you. All that matters is that we give up a lot of points. Wisconsin has a better scoring offense than ours, but that doesn't matter either.
November 20th, 2010 at 7:24 PM ^
Improvement in any facet of the defense would be much appreciated. And you didn't answer my question, where have we shown improvement?
November 20th, 2010 at 11:05 PM ^
Way late to this, but I'm going through this enormous thread to gauge how we feel as a fanbase. (Survey thus far says: crappy, schizo). But great point on UW's offense. OSU was the more winnable game going into these two. We are going to be on the rise defensively once all these robo-senior Qbs (Chappel, Stanzi, Tolzein, and junior Cousins) are gone. If your secondary is so young that someone is always open, to have success you have to be facing a QB who is occasionally going to flat miss the guy. As we saw today, that is something these QBs excel at avoiding.
November 20th, 2010 at 4:40 PM ^
I think we should pin this thing on God. He is responsible for all those injuries in the secondary.
FIRE GOD!!!!!1!!!!!!
November 20th, 2010 at 3:10 PM ^
for a defense that doesn't get shredded by third string quaterbacks and running backs.
November 20th, 2010 at 3:24 PM ^
Didn't see any third string quarterbacks throw a pass today. And if you really think their third string running backs are comparable to other team's third string running backs, you are just a big sillywilly.