jdraman

April 18th, 2023 at 4:30 PM ^

It's even less like the Terrance Shannon situation since that was primarily Texas Tech and Mark Adams' fault for not letting him finish his degree in the summer. And I think it's even more clear now that it was more so Adams' fault since he demonstrated this past year how awful a person and coach he is. 

skatin@the_palace

April 18th, 2023 at 1:10 PM ^

Looks like Papa is going out for a pack of smokes... 

In all honesty, the basketball program definitely was sacrificed for the success of the football team. I am at peace with this. 

mGrowOld

April 18th, 2023 at 1:21 PM ^

The standards for admission for D1 athletes on scholarship may not be as high as us regular folk face there still is a minimum bar they have to clear.  

FWIW my youngest son, like Papa, did not make the cut this year.  4.6 GPA (all AP classes), 1480 SAT, National Merit Award, varsity cross country & track (3 years) speech & debate state finalist (3 years) and a son of a grad, who was a son of a grad who was a son of a grad.  Was wait listed then finally denied admission.

 

mGrowOld

April 18th, 2023 at 1:43 PM ^

Agreed.  Maybe because he's out of state or maybe they didnt like his essay.  I was surprised he didnt get in but with only 20% admission rate (quite a bit lower for out of state applicants) we knew the odds were stacked against him from the start.

East German Judge

April 18th, 2023 at 4:19 PM ^

If he is still interested, it might be easier to transfer in as a sophomore to Michigan assuming he keeps up the solid academics while at OSU.  Is he still a Wolverine at heart or is he jaded by the rejection, which is understandable?

Don

April 18th, 2023 at 2:57 PM ^

Something ain't right when your kid with those credentials can't get in a public state-supported university like U-M.

If I was applying to U-M these days with the credentials I had in HS, they'd laugh and throw it in the circular file. And I was a good student, National Merit, AP classes, strong SAT numbers, track/cross country, etc. etc. I'd be forced into a place on the level of MSU or Western.

 

Yeoman

April 18th, 2023 at 4:34 PM ^

I think "public state-supported" is precisely the point. It's supported by the taxpayers of the State of Michigan.

I got into Michigan back in the day but the aid package wasn't competitive and I couldn't seriously consider the offer. Looking back I think they were right. They had no business trying to compete for an Ohio kid with financial need and with other options. It's not what the school is for.

Zoltanrules

April 18th, 2023 at 5:50 PM ^

As you probably know the athletic department is self funded ( thank you M Football) and most people would be surprised at the small % of revenue comes from the State of Michigan to The University of Michigan.

https://obp.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/pubdata/budget/ubudgetbooksummary_fy23.pdf

Still UM favors in state students....

How to double your chances of getting into the University of Michigan

There’s an easy trick that can more than double your chances of admission to the University of Michigan.

It’s not about long lists of extracurriculars, rigorous classes or an uplifting application essay about triumph over adversity.

It’s about geography, residency.

Put plainly, if you live in Michigan, you’ve got a heck of a leg up.

The University of Michigan offered admission to nearly 40 percent of undergraduate in-state applicants for the fall of 2022 and just 17 percent of applicants from other parts of the U.S. Those numbers don’t include incomplete or withdrawn applications. They were similar in the previous two years.

Which makes UM an outlier among the public universities in the Big Ten. Most, but not all, offer admission to a slightly higher percentage of in-state applicants than out-of-state applicants.

The Ohio State University, for instance, accepted 53.3 percent of Ohio applicants and 50.8 percent of applicants from other states. The University of Iowa accepted 93 percent of Iowa applicants and just under 91 percent of out-of-state applicants.

But the effect is largest at Michigan, in part because Michigan is the most selective to start with.

“As a public institution, the University of Michigan is committed to supporting students from our state,” said Adele Brumfield, UM’s vice provost for enrollment management, “and our priority here is to have more than half of our undergraduate students come from Michigan and really working to provide access to these students to this fantastic institution.”

GoBlue96

April 18th, 2023 at 3:14 PM ^

My first two kids weren't very close to being able to get into Michigan so thankfully they didn't have to go through this.  My daughters boyfriend had similar numbers to your son and also got waitlisted.  Seems ridiculous.

FWIW I got in as an out of stater and most in state people think it's easier to get in as an out of stater because it's more revenue for the school.  I never believed that and the numbers back it up.

Sllepy81

April 18th, 2023 at 5:27 PM ^

As arrogant as it is, donate to the alumni nonsense, donate to the school. My cousin had to jump through the same hoops, wait listed, professor wrote him a letter who he sat next to at games growing. Still wait listed. Dad donated money over the years hoping it would help him. Be ethnic also. Wife got turned down for residency while her classmate who was far worse with scores and not as well liked got selected over her. She has a sort of bitter taste towards michigan med school.

Eleven Year Wo…

April 18th, 2023 at 2:22 PM ^

I was going to bring that up--Is the issue that Kante can't get in to Michigan or as you suggest that he can't qualify with the NCAA. 

If it's the latter, could we still take him and have him be ineligible his first year (ala Terry Mills and Rumeal Robinson back in my day). I have a very poor understanding of how NCAA qualification works now.