OT:Girls have cooties
Seriously This team forfited a game because they didn't want to play against a female player. I think we've gone back to the 18th century.
Discuss.
I thought the year was 2012... that is ridiculous
Actually, that specific school is run by a religious group that refused to leave the 18th century (as opposed to returning to it). They split off rather than accept Vatican reforms.
Honestly I can't get all that worked up about it. It's a private school and they have the right to do what they want. They didn't raise a fuss or try to get the girl DQed, they just forfited. Girl's team gets a first round bye out of the deal, not bad.
They do have the right. Doesn't mean their views aren't archaic and stupid. JMO
Bc they forfeited their game based on their tightly held beliefs, you are judging them and their views as being 'archiac and stupid'? How are you and your 'views' anymore accepting or not-stupid than theres?
No Politics or Religion.
Thanks for espousing the rules on a post where a I was simply pointing out the hypocrisy of his statement. Nowhere in the post was an opinion stated about religion or politics
you're welcome.
"Andrew Jackson Jihad" posting this was very funny to me for some reason.
Go ahead and neg me, ban me whatever...religious dogma applied at that level is bullshit. It's not Taliban level bullshit, but that isn't the appropriate comparison. This is America fergodsakes.
but if we ban you we'll never get to see your pretty face
I never said mine weren't. But *theirs* are in this case. I don't profess to know everything or that my beliefs are the only way or yada yada yada. Never will. But I do know this: It's silly to not play a game because the other team has a girl on it. You're saying we can't challenge beliefs? If we don't challenge beliefs and test them, nothing changes. Change is good and necessary for progress.
The irony of your statement makes me lolz.
In the same paragraph you say "I don't profess...that my beliefs are the only way or yada yada yada" and "It's silly to not play a game because the other team has a girl on it."
Either be judgemental or don't be.
You left out a key part of my statement. So I lolz at you.
And I never said I wasn't judgmental. I am. But I also accept that I will be judged by others as well.
How in the world are their views NOT archaic and stupid? Stating that women shouldn't play sports with men is without any question Archaic and it's also very stupid.
The idea that they can't is stupid, but where else do you see men and women playing organized sports together besides college rec sports? Seems like a stupid thing to take a stance on but I wouldn't treat this as something outside of the norm in sports to be honest.
"but where else do you see men and women playing organized sports together besides college rec sports?"
A TON of high school sports have mixed teams because the high school doesn't offer the sport for girls or vice versa. I work for a school district and I help out the AD with many tasks... while I would never claim to be an expert or anything close to that on the topic, i've come to discover the situation is pretty common.
Can you give some examples? I'm genuinely curious because that was unheard where I went to high school about 6 or 7 years ago.
That's not that rare...There was a girl on my 8th grade team, FWIW.
EDIT: There were 28 girls on Michigan h.s. football teams in 2010. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/09/sports/female-football-player-represents-remarkable-progress-for-women.html?pagewanted=all
Not entirly sure what you mean by examples, the most I would really put forth are anecdotal stories.... which don't mean much.
You said a TON of sports do. What sports? Where? I'll take anectodal stories over nothing.
There were females that played on both our Lacrosse team, and our Football team. We've competed against schools that have had women on their Hockey Team (more than a few), Baseball and another girl was on the basketball team but she didn't make the trip to our school so I never got to see her play.
All the schools are located in the subs of Cinnci.
for football and lacrosse is archaic and stupid. There I said it. And not one person can logically or sensibly counter that in any way. My statement has precisely as much sense, data and logic behind it as those who say the team refusing to play the girl's team has arachaic and stupid rules.
So it doesn't apply to women playing football or lacrosse.
If only you know what the definition of Archaic meant. Really makes the rest of your post look pretty idiotic.
My high school soccer team was coed. We were a Class C school that didn't have enough people to field two soccer teams (nor did any other team in our league). So we always had a few girls on the team, and opponents' teams occasionally had girls, too.
There was a girl on my high school jv football team, and this was my sophmore year of high school, so fall of 2005, and this was actually in northern VA (this was included in case your screename also indicates where you wen to high school, to show that it happened in your area around the same time you went to high school.) She wasn't very good and didnt really play, but she was definitely allowed on the team.
Also, I believe there was like a Sportscenter special on like 3 girls playing on one team, and also, Holley Mangold.
...of my classmates:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1137475/index.htm
And my hs gf played on the "men's" hockey team.
One of my teammates on the guys golf team was a girl during my sophomore year. We didn't have enough girls interested in golf to make a girl's team and she still wanted to play.
It probably isn't uncommon. But does that make it ok?
I think it'd probably be fine for baseball but I don't think I'd want them being mixed for contact sports like football and hockey to be honest.
I somewhat agree, but I think we also need to remember that the disparity in size and strength b/w boys and girls in high school is not as large as it would be at the college level. For the large schools it might be more dangerous, but for small schools, I doubt it really matters. Either way, it should be up to herself and her parents if she would be able to play those sports. And the coaching staff if there are cuts and such. Definitely shouldn't be up to her opponents. They are denying her the chance to compete in an extracurricular activity just because she is a girl.
I bet you feel the same way about the boy who was forced to quit his field hockey team specifically because it was decided that women shouldn't play sports with men.
Here's the article, this should make for some good discussion: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/keeling-pilaro-male-field-hockey-player-banned-being-160713816.html
EDIT: Whoops, didn't see that you posted the link a few comments below... don't neg me for being redundant, he should've edited his post!
See you would think it would, but because its the reverse, no one really cares.
Do you support title IX?
Do you support women playing CFB on the men's team?
Do you support seperation of the WNBA and NBA?
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Oh, I get it. When other people do it, they're idiots. Mah B.
None of those three are sufficiently analogous to the question at hand to justify your snide remark at the end…
they are stupid and you are wrong.. This is whats wrong with our country right now.. Its 2012 people, lets move forword
Yes lets. As long as it fits the company line outrage lets move forward.
....In the same paragraph where you mispell "forward"...
here, and no one has any rationale other than "It's 2012 people!"
...has been accused of anti-semitism and holocaust denial. I think prudery by their basketball team may be the least of their issues.
Best Michigan game that I have ever seen live.. Good thing Carr got that extra second put back on clock Big House went NUTS..At that exact moment Reggie Bush pushed Matt Leinert into endzone to beat ND in South Bend...The football GODS spoke..
"Actually, that specific school is run by a religious group that refused to leave the 18th century (as opposed to returning to it). They split off rather than accept Vatican reforms."
This is an important point. When I saw that the school involved was named "Our Lady of Sorrows, I immediately wondered if the Society of St. Pius the Tenth (SSPX) was in charge, and that turned out to be the case. The SSPX is a group that is in schism from the Catholic Church over a number of issues. I just thought it was important to put this out there before people start going "Ahh, stupid Catholics," etc., as this group is not representative of the Catholic Church in any way.
It wasn't a first round bye - it was the championship game. Kind of sucky way to cap an undefeated season.
Says the guy named Andrew Jackson.
oh the delicious irony.
( I have no idea what irony means)
It's the internet....nobody really does