OT: What's Russian for "if you ain't dopin', you ain't tryin' "?
Russia state-sponsored doping across majority of Olympic sports, claims report.
Should we be surprised that Russia didn't dope across all Olympic sports? Or is that just bureaucratic ineffieciency? Or maybe they just don't care about some sports?
If you're a Russian athlete that didn't get state support for doping, what do you have to do to get that? How do you feel if your country's doping department isn't behind you?
I guess Russian athletes won't have to worry about catching Zika in Rio, if Russia gets the banhammer.
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"What's the point of being Russian if you aren't going to do whatever the fuck you want."
That's good. In a strange way, their cheating is a lesson to Americans that just because you dress nice, are well spoken and espouse the virtues of always doing what's right - our policitical face - it's still going to be "We found our gig, you find yours', our political reality.
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AMERICA!!
It seems like a UFC fighter is being caught with something before every fight. If the NFL did Olympic style testing, I bet the majority of players would test positive for something.
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If people who like going to health food stores and buying supplements were tested every day, I bet a majority of them would be found "positive for something" under the Olympic testing model. I'm beginnng to think a smoothie with a shot of wheatgrass would make someone test postiive.
The US government didn't use its intelligence organizations to run the cheating program. It actually wasn't involved at all.* So, I mean, that's one difference.
*Actually, if it turned out that the US government was using the CIA to roid up WWE stars, that'd be hilarious. I'd be tempted to give them a pass just on style points.
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I'm somewhat surprised that this news hasn't reached the blog sooner!!! It's amazing the scope of this scandal and how it was carried out. I'd be happy if the entire Russian Olympic Team was banned.
that stories are the only memories you have of the early 90s games. There were two issues with doping that are still vivid in my mind today. One was of a Russian basketball center. His upper body was just so"very unusually" large, I can recall looking at my older brother and saying, "about the only time they will admit to cheating is when that fucker dunks the ball and runs to the other end of the court with his arm still hanging off the rim."
The other was the Chinese women's swimming team. When they first removed their shirts, towels, or whatever they used for the outer garment, as M-Dog said sarcasitically, "Color me fucking surprised." It was so blatant I could not believe it. They didn't just decide on one girl, one medal. They wanted enough medals for two Olympic Games. It was so blatant that if you didn't know, you would think they might be the sparring partners for the men's wrestling team. Their fucking shoulders were about as wide as LaMarr's.
It was so bad that when they did the testing the next year at the World games, Pan-am games or whatever event follows the Olympics, i think they had one or two girls qualify. I think 32 of 38 tested bad. One girl at one of the competitions was found with enough HGH at the routine Customs check to dope the entire team. Other than the Ray Jones, Jr., decision, this was the most blatant "we don't give a fuck about rules" moment I can recall.
The Olympic games to me has grown to the point of SEC football. I just don't watch them. I must admit I had difficulty with the thought process of one of the posters today on the question about following another team. He readily admitted his love affair with the USC Trojans, extolling the greatness of Pete Carroll. I'll give the guy his due for having one of the best defensive minds in the game. However, one never knows just how good they would have been without Player A or B. Then when you found out they, along with Player C, were all the result of a purchase, to me, the glitter is tarnished severely. You can appreciate the greatness of the team, but there is no way you can consider them a champion unless everyone on their schedule was allowed to play their ideal recruit at every position. Some coaches just don't get this and some schools never will. I think the majority of coaches enjoy the rules part of the game and truly enjoy the competition and satisfaction of actually out coaching that guy across the field. Then there are a few that wouldn't even consider coaching without the advantage they can gain by taking shortcuts. Doesn't bother them a bit. A lot of fans poke fun at the Miss schools but Bama and TN make them both look like amateurs as to cheating. And there is no way in hell Dabo built that program so quickly with his dance moves. Those fuckers make me sick.
I'm not naive. I understand that there has always been aspects of doping and cheating during the olympic games. I recall all the doping accusations/scandals during the Soviet Bloc era with the Soviets, East Germans, the Czechs, Hungarians and Romanians. The point I was making about the scope of cheating was that the FSB (formally known as the KGB) was running the show with directives/guidance coming for the Kremlin.
Also, IMHO, the '72 Olympic Baskeball Gold Medal Game "was the most blatant we don't give a fuck about rules moment" that I've witnessed. The Roy Jones, Jr fiasco pales in comparison.
I've don't ever recall an entire olympic team being suspended from participating in the olympics. Which is what appears to be the case with Russia's track and field team. Many countries and organizations are also pushing for the ENTIRE Russian Summer Olympic team to be banned from Rio. Again, I don't ever recall an entire nation being banned for cheating. This is unprecedented.
Hint: I remember the '76 games, mostly our boxing team and I know who Nadia Comaneci is as well as Bela Karolyi. The '80 summer games were a blur because we boycotted but I did watch "miracle on ice" live (for some reason we got a Canadian channel with our comcast subscription). Our '84 summer track team destroyed everyone but maybe because the Soviets boycotted '84 in response to our boycott in '80.
But I digress, as you humbly remind me that "I'm at the age where stories are the only memories I have of the early 90 games." If you are as old as you infer, then you'd understand the ole saying about assuming something.
mostly on my part, as I look back and understand how you could have easily misunderstood my message to convey exactly what you thought it did, a naivete on your part.
Actually I am glad you responded to this post. I am 63 now, will be 64 in October. From time to time, I will throw in an anecdote to supply the blog with a view from someone who was closer to their age now at the time of a certain event, and I've found in some instances, many were not born then. But I blew this one entirely.
First of all, my response was intended for the above reason, to supply a story of one of the more blatant things I've seen at the Olympics, certainly not to give an opinion on the current events and least of all to insinuate you were naive in any fashion.
I screwed it up in the first place by getting the dates wrong. I like to have the dates correct, especially for historical significance. Athough the resulting penaities and actions that took place did, correctly as I stated, take place in the early 90s, the actual games I was referring to were in the late 80s. The actions of the Chinese women though were so incongruous and actually laughable as if "No one will notice the transformation of our entire body type," But such were the ways of the Russians and Chinese, in this case, during the 70s and 80s because the Cold War was still going strong.
I hope you do accept my apology for the confusion and I fully understand your reasoning for such an interpretation.
As far as the '72 basketball final, I'll remember that, and all for reasons not entirely that cool. First of all, i had just returned from Vietnam and was living in E. Orange, NJ, across the street from Seton Hall, having about 8-9 months until I would get out of the service in Apr of 73. Not having a television - not uncommon for a young, single man then - I had to go to the local bar to watch the ball game. What unfolded caused me the same emotions you must have felt. So much confusion by so many people that I can't make sense of it today. You can read the reasoning by those involved and almost understand where they were coming from. But the ending will be something that will never be accepted.
Your reply has caused some questions on my part. First, how did you miss most of the gmes of the 90s while watching all the other events? Don't know where you live but the Miracle on Ice game still upsets me. Not the results, of course, but the fact t.v. was just changing and espn was on the air and some of the earlier cable offereings, but we were still pretty much a three station nation. In order not to get scooped, all the stations had to run an up-to-date cc announcing the results about a 1/2 hr before it was to be telecast. Damn, talk about being pissed. Nation wide. I didn't even know comcast as comcast then. Even though I have it now for my wireless, we simply had Muskegon Cable then. i think they were all privately owned. Before Nadia, I remember Olga of the games prior to that. She put on the same type of show but had a terribly timed fall to lose the individuals.
Thanks for bringing this matter to my attention. I'd much rather explain than have someone pissed for something I had no intention of doing.
I was in the Marine Corps during the 90's. I spent ALOT of time overseas and when back in the states (Camp Pendleton and 29 Palms, CA) I did the normal Marine grunt things. Training, drinking and chasing women.
I didn't watch much tv other than college football and NHL. I was fortunate enough to see Michigan play in the '94 Holiday Bowl vs. Colorado St in San Diego. I remember that well 'cause before the game they always would have SEALS jump from helos and parachute in with the game ball and then the flag would be unfurled to cover the entire field while someone sang the national anthem. However, when I was there, a crosswind hit a SEAL just as he was landing and took his feet from under him and he landed flat on his ass. Needless to say he ended up paralized and the game was delayed because of the medical attention that was required. That memory always seems to get me. I was close to some SEALS. My corpsman left my grunt unit for BUDS and was part of the teams. As a sidenote, I knew Alt Grizzard thru my corpsman. He was a heck of a QB. Another sad moment for SEALS.
I don't really recall weather it was comcast at the time or not. Somehow (not sure how) we received a Canadian channel when I was young and my dad and I would always watch hockey on Sat nights after he and my mom would get back from their bowling league. I grew up in the thriving metropolis we call Flint.
Anyways, no harm no foul my friend. If I came across as anything other than informative (wit gone wrong), that wasn't my intent. So my apologies to you as well if my delivery was off.
Everyone in this thread is in danger of Polonium-210 poisoning just sayin'...
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The Russians cheating?
Color me:
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Если вы не dopin , вы не сделаешь
If true, what are the odds Russia is banned entirely from the Rio games to make a statement? Hell, if it's true every Russian olympian might be guilty anyway
World's gettin' jealous and stuff.
Peregruzka. I asked someone at the State Department and was told the word you're looking for is peregruzka.
or down by the laundry detergents?