OT: MNF Open Thread
I still think the Sun Belt should be the featured undercard for MNF. Have MNF start at half time of the NCAA game, as no one really cares about the Sun Belt anyway.
That said, the game is on. They're already gushing over Ty Law. "ZOMG! HE JUST GOT HERE IN THIS ALTITUDE NEVER PLAYED NICKELBACK BEFORE!!1!"
So yeah, discussion goes here.
November 9th, 2009 at 9:16 PM ^
Tyrone Carter!
November 9th, 2009 at 9:39 PM ^
An amazing secondary = ZOMG.
November 9th, 2009 at 9:42 PM ^
I hate more.
I guess I'll root for Denver.
November 9th, 2009 at 9:46 PM ^
Tajaun "Ty" Law vs. LaMarr Dewayne Woodley.
(The correct answer is "tie.")
November 9th, 2009 at 10:04 PM ^
Orton played at Purdue. I'm going Woodley and Steelers in this one.
November 9th, 2009 at 9:48 PM ^
Denver's WR's are awesome.
They remind me of how Michigan used to be at that position. Oh the glory days.
November 9th, 2009 at 9:53 PM ^
does playing in the high altitude ACTUALLY affect a players performance if he's not used to it? or is this just another unfounded media fascination?
November 9th, 2009 at 10:00 PM ^
I'm not an athlete.
But.
While drinking in Boulder and walking up a slight incline while smoking a cigarette to get to the next bar, I was huffing like a curious high-schooler with glue.
It's a whole new thing. Honestly.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:04 PM ^
I believe it's real. I have a buddy that I have run multiple marathons with at low altitudes. He moved to Denver and had his long distance running capacity decimated. He just had no gas and felt tired all of the time during his runs. Eventually, he overcame it, but it took awhile.
The air is thinner at higher altitudes, which means oxygen pressure is lower. Thus the heart must work harder by beating faster to meet the body's oxygen needs.
So yeah, it's real.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:05 PM ^
It is a bit of an endurance problem, but it's not a huge deal. The Rockies actually did a study on this when they first started as a franchise. They studied both how it affects the body and the effects on the gameplay. They concluded, IIRC, that the altitude really can set a player back during sustained heavy breathing.
In order to prepare their players, they placed almost all of their minor league franchises up in high altitude cities such as Colorado Springs(6k ft) Asheville, NC (2k ft), and Casper, WY (5k).
November 9th, 2009 at 10:11 PM ^
Just wondering....do you think the type of sport you play has an impact? In baseball there is so much down time and standing around. There isn't constant motion like with a sport like hockey (for example). Or long distance running. But I never recall hearing or reading about this as big deal whenever the Red Wings play the Avalanche. Hmmm.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:20 PM ^
Though hockey is a different animal than baseball or football.
Hockey, on an endurance level, is relatively level across the board. What I mean is that almost everyone is exerting the same amount of force on each play.
That is definitely not true in football, and especially not baseball.
Imagine a running back who is assigned to block for two plays in a row while the receivers and cornerbacks are burning ass all over the place.
The backs will have more in the tank after those two plays.
Regardless. It matters.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:25 PM ^
It's definitely less of an impact on baseball where 85% or more is quick motion. It's a little bit on pitchers as they go through games and have to work harder, and very slight on the basepaths/running through the outfield.
Football is probably between hockey/soccer on the effects. There can be quite a bit of constant hard work, but a lot of it is explosive short bursts.
I'm not sure how it changes once you go inside. I doubt the stadium would oxygenize (is there a word for this?) the atmosphere to try and keep athletes healthier, or would they bank on their team being used to the oxygen depleted atmosphere.
But yeah, I would expect it to be much worse in hockey, soccer, or any sport where you're constantly moving.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:32 PM ^
should play in a casino?
November 9th, 2009 at 10:13 PM ^
thanks everyone for your replies.
much appreciated
November 9th, 2009 at 10:21 PM ^
but if you're serious, there's a Steeler defensive back who's sitting out tonight because of the altitude. I'm pretty sure it's not just media hype.
November 9th, 2009 at 9:58 PM ^
I was at the game Saturday and saw the same thing we've all seen all year: Mike Williams is a really bad football player. I don't have anything against him personally, don't know him from the guy working at the BP. And I'm certainly no Steve Sharik in terms of football knowledge, but Williams is atrocious. I'm surprised his UFR numbers aren't worse, actually. He seemed to be either out of position or, even when in position, taking atrocious angles on almost every play. Time to put Troy back at Strong, Jordan back at Free, and J.T. Floyd back at the corner opposite Donovan. I know the State game was Chinese water torture, but we only gave up 20 that game to a team that's better than the last two we just lost to, giving up 38 both times to do it.
Q for Coach Sharik: do you see any indications that our secondary coach is not good? I mean, can Mike Williams just be that dumb where he can't pick anything up? If that were the case, wouldn't some other guys like B. Smith, Emilien, Mike Jones, Turner, the trainer, be passing him by now?
Man, I wish I was back in school again...
November 9th, 2009 at 10:08 PM ^
but who do you have in the MNF game?
November 9th, 2009 at 10:10 PM ^
but Coach Sharik is busy in the lab developing ways to clone Charles Woodson.
Can I take a message?
November 9th, 2009 at 10:12 PM ^
That was a big man trucking down the field.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:12 PM ^
RUMBLIN BUMBLIN STUMBLIN
November 9th, 2009 at 10:14 PM ^
I sort of miss Denver's taco throwback uniforms. Those brown and yellow striped socks are just hideously awesome.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:16 PM ^
first Robert Ayers sighting of the year - he was been underwhelming to say the least.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:18 PM ^
He was just the beneficiary of someone else's good play. Ball bounced to the guy and he had 5 guys to fend off anyone that should have caught up to him. I wouldn't say he's stepped above underwhelming just yet.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:21 PM ^
two of my least favorite NFL receivers featured heavily on that drive.
Why must Hines Ward always be smiling?
November 9th, 2009 at 10:29 PM ^
give him a bottle of ketchup whenever he gets a touchdown.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:26 PM ^
Wow, that play... sucked? I don't even know what happened.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:27 PM ^
he is Kyle LOLrton
very bizarre.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:31 PM ^
That would do wonders for my fantasy team (or the Broncos scoring an offensive TD not by Royal)
November 9th, 2009 at 10:37 PM ^
Those are good fantasy WR's. Ward is a decent points producer.
FTR - Braylon Edwards and Santana Moss are killing me!
November 9th, 2009 at 10:41 PM ^
Santana had once awesome game but has been rather abysmal besides that. I should have known better than to pick a player from a team coached by Jim Zorn.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:45 PM ^
I am afraid to sit him over fears that the week I put him on the bench.....he goes off for 10 catches, 200 yds receiving and 3 td's. Just my luck.
I also have Mario Manningham and he hasn't done squat in a month! Thank the Lord for my QB, Brady.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:56 PM ^
I wish a had a true #1 WR though (but who doesn't). I forgot I also have Bolden (I really wish he could stay healthy).
November 9th, 2009 at 11:03 PM ^
Bouje, I have Bolden as well. Too funny. If he could only stay healthy. Like Moss, he has had one great game and bunch of shit the rest.
November 9th, 2009 at 11:19 PM ^
He has no trade value so the only thing that you can do is to pray he gets healthier.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:33 PM ^
Maybe the Steelers will stop giving the ball to "fast" Willie Parker.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:43 PM ^
Ryan Mundy sighting.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:44 PM ^
mind.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:45 PM ^
Hivemind and all that nonsense.
Alright, I'm done for the night. Enjoy, gentlemen.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:43 PM ^
sighting.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:47 PM ^
no yards after Mundy.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:49 PM ^
was that the Ryan Mundy who played for Michigan?
or the Ryan Mundy who played for West Virginia?
November 9th, 2009 at 10:51 PM ^
Hat tip to you sir. Quite funny, IMO.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:46 PM ^
when Denver's on Offense, all I can see is Marshall's orange shoes.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:58 PM ^
Space emperor of space is going to rule on high from a throne atop the rockies. In all seriousness, Broncos punting game has been an atrocity this year, I expect them to draft a punter high.
November 9th, 2009 at 11:03 PM ^
Zoltan could set NFL records aplenty. He should get orange shoes if he plays there, IMO.
November 9th, 2009 at 11:02 PM ^
early 30s. I think that that is so damn impressive for both of these young coaches.
November 9th, 2009 at 11:08 PM ^
The two times I've turned the game on tonight Orton gets an INT. Weird.
November 9th, 2009 at 11:33 PM ^
"Sixburgh; how many rings you got?"