OT?: Lightfoot bringing the heat back down on Chicago dining [LOCKED]
Since Lightfoot went to Michigan, I call this somewhat OT. With that, she's re-closing indoor dining in Chicago. Big move IMO. I could be wrong, but I don't know of anywhere else that reversed course in the U.S.
[Locking and taking names, folks. If you're looking to participate in political s***-slinging, you'll have plenty to participate in on Twitter tonight before, during, and after the debate]
Monocle Smile
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:04 PM ^
California opened limited indoor dining months back...July, maybe?...and walked it back after colossal spikes.
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acjgoblu
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:22 PM ^
Same basic thing here. I'm north of Chicago in the burbs but it's the same story all over the area - cases have doubled in the last couple weeks. Things were reasonable about 3 weeks ago, then levels skyrocketed quickly. All of the schools by us have sent kids back home from the hybrid learning platforms because there were too many cases in the area AND in the schools. Hopefully it's a short-lived thing and we can get back on track soon, but I can't say I blame them looking at the numbers.
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Ryno2317
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:40 PM ^
There is no evidence that in-person learning increases COVID transmission. Keep the kids in school. Follow the science.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/19/nyregion/schools-coronavirus.html
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Monocle Smile
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:44 PM ^
Uh, drawing that conclusion three weeks in? Are you kidding me?
I mean, if school districts are able to do it safely, that's wonderful and may indeed set a great national example.
However, as someone who comes from a family of educators, it's a monumental effort to develop a plan for safe in-person learning (when there's essentially no model, the article notwithstanding) and loads of districts don't have the funding or administrators with enough spine and ability to even make a legitimate effort.
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Ryno2317
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:54 PM ^
What evidence do you have to the contrary? All the evidence points to the fact that its o.k. to keep the kids in school. The downside, COVID might spread among kids and they only have a 99.99% percent chance of survival. Get real.
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befuggled
October 22nd, 2020 at 5:02 PM ^
The downside is that COIVD might spread among kids *and their parents and the staff*.
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Ryno2317
October 22nd, 2020 at 5:06 PM ^
Every study says it doesn't. Follow the science.
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bleens ditch
October 22nd, 2020 at 5:37 PM ^
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befuggled
October 22nd, 2020 at 7:05 PM ^
Like this one? Or this one?
The research now is indicating that while children are at a lower risk they do spread the damn thing.
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Ryno2317
October 22nd, 2020 at 5:00 PM ^
And, here is the very recent study explaining what is the deciding factor in whether or not schools have been allowed to open. Hint: it has nothing to do with science. Rather, it has everything to do with the strength of the teachers union. But, you already know that coming from a family of educators.
https://educationdailywire.com/stories/558012335-brown-university-study-finds-politics-play-a-role-in-pandemic-school-reopenings
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Shop Smart Sho…
October 22nd, 2020 at 5:09 PM ^
I'm sorry, could you repeat that? I couldn't hear it over the sounds of schools across the country closing due to Covid outbreaks.
https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/ohio-schools-report-record-weekly-increase-in-covid-19-cases/
https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2020/10/22/dorchester-county-schools-goes-back-to-virtual-learning-after-covid-19-increases/
https://www.abc10.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/san-diego-sees-increase-in-kids-with-covid-officials-blame-school-reopenings/509-e2c72386-8f80-42b8-b7b1-0f5d60063f2d
https://www.masslive.com/boston/2020/10/boston-public-schools-switching-to-remote-learning-after-increase-in-covid-cases.html
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buddha
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:59 PM ^
Not sure I know what you mean here. California does not have a state-wide response. Rather, the Governor's office has established a four-tier scorecard that drives county-level operations. Based on (hopefully) positive performance against the scorecard, individual counties are able to open more businesses.
You may be right that an individual county or possibly more opened back up in July only to be closed again, but that's the exception to the rule out here. The Bay Area only recently allowed indoor dining in late September / early October; Los Angeles and the surrounding counties down there mostly reopened in October. Thus far, to my knowledge, only Riverside County has had any spikes in cases that may have resulted from increased openings. Other than that, it's been pretty good and rates have either held steady or continued to drop.
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Shop Smart Sho…
October 22nd, 2020 at 5:11 PM ^
I know, right? Wouldn't it be awesome if the Senate would take up any of the bills the House has voted on and sent to them? You know, the ones full of stimulus money to help people keep their businesses closed or on limited operations so as to protect the most vulnerable amongst us?
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Fishbulb
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:09 PM ^
Really? Well, screw him, his over-reaching authority, and his boring folk-rock catalog.
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Blue Vet
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:39 PM ^
If you could read my mind...
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Midukman
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:12 PM ^
Why? It’s game week and football is somewhat back.
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IncrediblySTIFF
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:12 PM ^
I lived in the west loop in March of this year, and left towards the end of April. Considering all the instagram posts I see of people aged ~20-35 out and about like nothing has changed, I don't blame her for this. it sucks for these businesses but will likely save lives
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Wendyk5
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:59 PM ^
I frequently go into Chicago and ride along the lakefront. Over the summer and into September, huge groups of people gathered with no masks all up and down the lakefront. I'm surprised our numbers aren't worse.
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NittanyFan
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:13 PM ^
I'm sure after 7 months, this is the bullet that will ultimately break CV's back. I'm also sure this will result in no economic suffering among the populace.
(sarcasm, of course)
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Also, FWIW:
"Lightfoot said Monday she didn’t think there was a “cause and effect” between the number of confirmed cases of COVID-19 and bar operations, citing information developed by the city’s corps of contact tracers that determined that most new cases stemmed from contact with relatives or friends."
The "science" changes quick as regards CV!
https://news.wttw.com/2020/10/22/lightfoot-orders-bars-stop-indoor-serv…
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xtramelanin
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:19 PM ^
i'm going to need some authority for your position that forcing people to close their businesses is bad for business, otherwise that's just a conspiracy theory.
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East Quad
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:22 PM ^
Like a whiteout in a snowstorm?
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Shop Smart Sho…
October 22nd, 2020 at 5:14 PM ^
I bet it's bad for business when reactionary politicians refuse to negotiate in good faith on bills that have targeted monies for small businesses. Like, it could force people to keep their doors open despite the health risk. I wonder what could happen then...
https://www.wtoc.com/2020/10/12/savannah-business-owner-dies-covid-/
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/14/us/phoenix-arizona-aguirre-family-covid-deaths/index.html
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Sparty Doesn't Know
October 22nd, 2020 at 6:35 PM ^
After you reread Wealth of Nations, I am going to go ahead and ask you to learn what inflation and monetary policy is. Also going to ask you to refrain from posting about business and economic topics until you have at least a 4th grader's understanding of the topics.
Oh, and I thought if we all just wore masks...
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skatin@the_palace
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:13 PM ^
It seems the lack of a discretionary budget to spend on health code violations is biting Chicago in the ass. They could be equally as effective and potentially generate revenue by asserting hefty fines or revoking business licenses for those businesses that don't adhere to the ordinances. The city today stated an industry mixer at bar with 150+ people is evidence of the risk of indoor spread of COVID. Obviously the place wasn't following guidelines but with no way to monitor/enforce or deter it the guidelines are ineffective. Now countless bars, taverns, and restaurants will be forced to close and the one industry that had been carrying the city will die.
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m83econ
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:16 PM ^
Quite a stretch to say this one fits parameters for a post. Especially since there's no change it goes political...
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DonBrownIsAStr…
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:19 PM ^
Also live in Chicago. Unless I'm incorrectly reading this article, it sounds like she's closing down alcohol only bars, not indoor dining.
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Broken Brilliance
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:22 PM ^
Automatic nickel fries for everyone at the pub. Were eating!!
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goblueram
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:30 PM ^
Uptick in bars selling frozen pizzas...
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the fume
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:27 PM ^
No, you are correct.
Not only was this post OT, but OP couldn't even be bothered to read the article.
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East Quad
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:20 PM ^
In before the delete. Another COVID thread in non-OT times?
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Booted Blue in PA
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:22 PM ^
it would be fitting for her to ..... tread lightly
I'll show my self out
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SanDiegoWolverine
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:22 PM ^
OT season is over Windy. The biggest trolls start topics just to watch the board melt down. It's football time dude.
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Clarence Beeks
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:23 PM ^
Thank goodness for no more random OT season. Glad to see we are following that...
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B-Nut-GoBlue
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:34 PM ^
Sunnnndowwwwn, you better take care if I find you've been drinking out in Logan Square
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Booted Blue in PA
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:39 PM ^
mayoring might not be a strong point, but I have always appreciated "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" Powerful work there....
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B-Nut-GoBlue
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:49 PM ^
Couple weeks from that song's annual listening bump!
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Romeowolv
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:35 PM ^
Extremely OT.
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uofmchris1
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:40 PM ^
Since you started it.... I guess Chicago residents wont have to worry about getting murdered while dining inside of their favorite establishment. I guess that is a positive spin on this?
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IGotJobbed
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:41 PM ^
That's stupid but it's Lightfoot so I get it. Whackjob mayors just keep doing their thing
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bluesparkhitsy…
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:50 PM ^
How did you get "she's re-closing indoor dining" from this? That's absolutely not what she's doing. Restaurants can stay open, including for indoor service.
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Booted Blue in PA
October 22nd, 2020 at 4:55 PM ^
the facts.... however interesting, have little to no influence on the story.
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Wendyk5
October 22nd, 2020 at 5:05 PM ^
Come on, do we really need indoor dining? What do we look like, a bunch of pussies?
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lilpenny1316
October 22nd, 2020 at 5:09 PM ^
Isn't she the same one who got a haircut at the barber after she banned it?
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Hotel Putingrad
October 22nd, 2020 at 5:17 PM ^
You're thinking of that other liberal lady.
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lilpenny1316
October 22nd, 2020 at 5:54 PM ^
Not sure if /s, but https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/chicago-mayor-defends-hairstylist-visit-amid-coronavirus-outbreak-n1181546
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uofmchris1
October 22nd, 2020 at 5:22 PM ^
No, she is the one who stuck a fork in an electrical socket for her hairdo.
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Saludo a los v…
October 22nd, 2020 at 7:12 PM ^
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October 22nd, 2020 at 5:56 PM ^
I came to MGoBlog and a Facebook group broke out.
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JamesBondHerpesMeds
October 22nd, 2020 at 5:57 PM ^
I came back to MGoBlog and another Facebook group broke out.
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October 22nd, 2020 at 6:34 PM ^
Did not know shes an alum, pretty cool how many alums you can find in prominent positions you never knew about
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