OT: Imagine Being A Browns Fan....
December 16th, 2019 at 12:28 PM ^
I can say with exactitude that you're an idiot, and this is a stupid take.
December 16th, 2019 at 2:39 PM ^
You're either new around here or haven't read any MGrowOld posts.
December 15th, 2019 at 10:50 PM ^
Don't forgot Cleveland's official slogan
"At least we're not Detroit!"
December 15th, 2019 at 11:00 PM ^
I am simply trying to imagine being a Lions fan, and then I wake up, nearly sober, and realize that I AM a Lions fan....
December 16th, 2019 at 6:12 AM ^
I'm a Browns fan. I bought the hype. Coaching didn't turn out as well as we had hoped. Not sure why you're talking shit, though?
December 16th, 2019 at 12:36 PM ^
We had no reason not to, our QB set the rookie record for TD passes, then we added one of the best receivers in the game, and one of the best RBs in the game.
Our mistake was thinking Freddie would fit in seamlessly, when in reality he's the worst head coach I have ever seen. Every single week this team is unprepared, and yesterday they quit.
3 decisions from Dorsey destroyed this season: Drafting Corbett, hiring Kitchens, the Zeitler/Vernon trade.
The OBJ trade has been a disaster, but it's still a decision that was worth the risk.
December 16th, 2019 at 7:34 AM ^
This is just an untrue narrative. Most Browns fans were nothing more than cautiously optimistic. We thought we had a talented team that had a real shot at making the playoffs this year if the talent came together. This perception that Browns fans were so confident and were talking Super Bowl, etc, is silly. Of course there were some, as there probably are every year. But most browns fans are pessimistic at their core, and realized it was very, very possible the season would go just as it has. Browns fans actually remind me a lot of Michigan fans here. Hopeful yet pessimistic, full of excuses after losses, and always wanting the coaches fired
December 16th, 2019 at 8:13 AM ^
Hey you don’t say that
December 16th, 2019 at 8:17 AM ^
I'm partly a browns fan (from Canton, OH) but I'm more of the "oh they suck I'll just casual watch three games a year and hope they win because good for NE Ohio" kind. Browns fans are delusional. They always have been.
My in-laws are from Buffalo and my best friend played for the bills so I've really gotten into rooting for them. Even when they suck it's a really fun and cool fan base. Fortunately, this year they are pretty damn good.
December 16th, 2019 at 8:45 AM ^
Browns fans by in large are very delusional, I can’t disagree with you there. But I think we get a bad rap. Very few fanbases would so passionately support a team that has given so little back.
December 16th, 2019 at 11:28 AM ^
Yeah you are right there. I give Bills and Browns fans credit there. They are both, no matter what, do or die for their teams. The friend I was referring to is Dustin Fox since you are a buckeye fan you may recognize his name. He was the best man in my wedding (well I actually had two best men, he was one of two). He loved playing for the bills they sucked when he was there but he was always shocked they way those fans packed that massive stadium and rooted like hell for them.
December 16th, 2019 at 1:18 PM ^
That’s awesome, I’m a big fan of Dustin. I listen to him almost every day, and remember him well from his OSU days
December 16th, 2019 at 3:04 PM ^
Very cool yeah we played at glenoak together in canton and have been friends since we were kids. I used to go with him to a ton of psu games when his brother played there. We got to see some kick ass teams that was back in the lavar arrington, etc. days
anyway when he ended up with the bills it was pretty cool as that is where my in laws live and my wife is from
December 16th, 2019 at 8:43 AM ^
Buffalo, Chicago, Cincinnati, Cleveland and Detroit have 1 SB win and 8 SB appearances total between them. If you're not a free agent destination, you need a HoF coach and a solid front office. GB and Pittsburgh have bucked the trend because of HoF coaches and a top front office/scouting department.
Take the Lions seriously when they completely overhaul their scouting department. Until then, it'll be SOL.
December 16th, 2019 at 9:55 AM ^
Being a destination city has nothing to do with it
Miami, Dallas, Atlanta, New York Jets, San Diego/LA Chargers would all be considered desired destination cities for many players and none of those teams has won a SB in the last 22 years.
It’s about ownership and management. Period.
December 16th, 2019 at 9:21 AM ^
It ought to be easy to imagine for anyone who is a Lions fan. They have been even worse.
December 16th, 2019 at 9:23 AM ^
Imagine growing up a Lions fan going to games at Tiger stadium with your dad starting in 1968. Imagine growing up in Pontiac in the shadow of the Silverdome and going to games from about 1975 through 1985 before moving to Cleveland. Then imagine marrying a women who's a lifetime Browns season ticket holder and becoming a Browns fan about in 2008 and going to games with her ever since.
When it comes to supporting shitty, heartbreaking football teams i defy ANYONE to match my resume.
December 16th, 2019 at 9:55 AM ^
mGrowOld -- that's a rough path, but in all honesty, neither of these teams (Lions or Browns) are heartbreaking.
With zero expectations, there can be no heartbreak. Michigan Football and Boston Red Sox (20th century version) are heartbreakers.
December 16th, 2019 at 4:44 PM ^
4 championships in the last 20 years... What I (and any other fanbase) would give for that kind of "heartbreak".
December 16th, 2019 at 11:19 AM ^
I don't have to "imagine" being a Browns fan; I am one. It sucks exactly as much as you probably think it does.
December 16th, 2019 at 4:49 PM ^
The Cleveland Browns are essentially an expansion team. Their inheritance of the Browns' branding, history, and records was a legal fiction created as part of the compromise that allowed the old Browns to move to Baltimore. But the franchise itself is relatively new.
The Lions, on the other hand, are one of the NFL's oldest franchises. And yet, they have exactly one playoff win in their history, and are the only NFL team that isn't a recent expansion team to have never played in a Super Bowl. They're also the only team to have had an 0-16 season.
You tell me which team is more pathetic.
December 16th, 2019 at 5:12 PM ^
I would suggest that even recent expansion teams in the NFL have done better than the Lions... and it's not like the NFL stacks the deck for expansion teams like the NHL did for Vegas.
2002 Houston Texans, 3-5 playoff record.
1995 Carolina Panthers, 9-8, 2 Superbowl appearances.
1995 Jacksonville Jaguars, 7-7.
December 17th, 2019 at 3:02 PM ^
As opposed to what, a Lions fan?
December 17th, 2019 at 11:09 PM ^