OT- Game of Thrones S8E5

Submitted by Eastside Maize on May 12th, 2019 at 8:19 PM

Faceless Arya and the Hound have unfinished business in Kings Landing. A lot of events are converging on the Dragon Queen, the latest being Missandei’s beheading, which might make her become the “Mad Queen.” A lot of loose ends to tie up. WE DO NOT SOW

We'll be Champions

May 12th, 2019 at 10:48 PM ^

Idk who’s downvoting all the positive reactions people are having to this episode. I thought it was fantastic and filled with suspense. Best episode in either season 7 or 8 imo

BlockM

May 12th, 2019 at 10:56 PM ^

I don't have a problem with the story, but the constructions of these episodes makes no sense. There's so much more they could have done with these last few episodes by cutting the battle/massacre scenes in half. We get it, lots of people are dying/burning, give us some more details about what's going on.

Wendyk5

May 12th, 2019 at 11:04 PM ^

In that scene with Jamie and Cersei, I wanted Jamie to snap her neck or strangle her and then reveal himself to be Arya. Or just do it as himself. But I agree to a point. The fight with the Mountain and the Hound could've been one scene, and there were too many scenes with people running in the streets and getting torched.

BlockM

May 12th, 2019 at 11:12 PM ^

Just for two examples, I'd have loved: 

  • More info about the white walkers and the night king. Who, what, why?
  • Some more explanation of battle tactics? Why not just do the dragon thing in the first place? Why do you need a freaking army? Develop that a little more.

I didn't read the books, and I'm not a die-hard fan, so it doesn't bother me deeply, just seems like a lot of hand waving after some incredibly detailed and nuanced details in the earlier seasons.

uncle leo

May 12th, 2019 at 11:24 PM ^

I guess my only question would be... why? The night walkers have been covered pretty much the entire show on and off. At this point, there's nothing else that we need to know about them.

And to your second point, again, why? Why do they need to go into some military briefing? This show is about emotion. They pretty much had the whole plan laid out, but Dany snapped and everything went to shit.

BlockM

May 13th, 2019 at 12:14 AM ^

The show seems to currently be mainly about spectacle, but as one podcast pointed out, they once spent multiple episodes negotiating passage over a single bridge crossing so it hasn't always been that way.

With the dragons, Dany could have taken Kings Landing ages ago just by flying in and burning everything. Just seems like there's a lot of hand waving and "don't ask questions about that" going on. Seems rushed. 

It makes sense, they need to wrap it up, the actors need to move on to other things, I just wish they'd spend more time doing what GOT does best and dig in to some more detail. To each their own.

bcnihao

May 13th, 2019 at 7:53 AM ^

Did you see the conflicting comments about s8e4?  Some complained that it was too slow, with too little action.  Others complained that it was rushed, without the sort of character development that characterized previous seasons.  

"With the dragons, Dany could have taken Kings Landing ages ago just by flying in and burning everything."  Well, yeah.  And her advisors persuaded her not to do that.  Then she snapped after Missandei's execution.  (That's the sort of character development that was rushed in this season.)

tspoon

May 13th, 2019 at 12:24 AM ^

It might have been interesting to see Dany's facial expression once or twice while she's obliterating women and children. 

And maybe we could have seen Ser Davos as it unfolded.

Golden Company ... did they just run away after Drogon's blast took out what appeared to be a good 10% of them? Granted it was right in the middle of their ranks, it was terrifying and their leader went down almost immediately. But what a bunch of twats. No fight in them at all.

 

 

TrueBlue2003

May 13th, 2019 at 1:09 AM ^

She came back around and torched them right down the line horizontally.  They showed it.  Not immediately but after they took out the scorpions.  Also, they got crushed by the Dothraki and Northmen as they all charged into the city.

uminks

May 13th, 2019 at 3:19 AM ^

When book 6 and 7 are published that will end up looking like a good horse. My guess is that may occur in 2020-2021 and GOT will be redone on HBO. I think the books story line will be a lot different then what HBO tried to put together.

Chalky White

May 13th, 2019 at 8:35 AM ^

I seriously doubt this show will be done on HBO again. That ship will have sailed. You'll basically have to go back in time and by the time the books are done, everybody will be at least 10 years older than they are now. That doesn't take into account trying to coordinate everyone's free time to work on this a second time. This show is over after next week.

This will end up like Deadwood where they will then shift to talking about making a movie instead of recreating the series, but of course it will never happen. Even if it did happen, it wouldn't have the same impact because it would have been too long.

 

I remember when Avatar was going to be the greatest 3 part movie series ever. I think it's been 10 years since the first movie. Fortunately the entire thing is CGI and you don't habe to in theory use the same actors if it came down to it.

DTOW

May 12th, 2019 at 11:20 PM ^

I thought the episode was great.  People are gonna bitch because people love to bitch.  There is no such thing as a perfect ending for this show, its just has too big of a following.  One way or another some people were going to be upset.

I Bleed Maize N Blue

May 12th, 2019 at 11:26 PM ^

Ask not for whom the bell tolls ...

or

Holy city razing, Batman!

or

Boom! Dracarys'd!

It's a mad, mad, mad queen's world.

 

Alas, poor Varys. I knew him, Hot Pie, a man of infinite whisperers.

Can fire consume a dead mountain?

Arya used up a bunch of lives, didn't she?

DK81

May 12th, 2019 at 11:43 PM ^

Damn, really good final season. This might be the best episode of season 8 along with episode 2. A lot of people need to eat crow for shooting down the mad queen theories for all these years.

Gucci Mane

May 13th, 2019 at 3:13 AM ^

They set up “mad queen” so badly. She has tried to always do the right thing, and she even still tried after so many personal struggles. Right up until she decided to o crazy based on nothing. Awful writing. 

Dawggoblue

May 13th, 2019 at 5:41 AM ^

Based on nothing?

Her closest friends and allies are all dead or turning on her.

Jorah, Dead.  Missandei, Dead.  She feels Tyrion and Jon have betrayed her.  She has lost two of her three children.  It's like you never even watched the show and you are just posting things to bitch and moan.

She has always tried.  She has had so many personal struggles.  The point is that everyone has a breaking point and she has finally hit hers.

ScooterTooter

May 13th, 2019 at 8:11 AM ^

So her breaking point was winning the war in exactly the way that she stated she wanted to in Season 7 (so as not become queen of the ashes)? 

The other part you're missing is that there really isn't any reason for her allies to turn on her. Her decisions are generally in line with what you would expect a ruler to do on the show. That's the issue here.