OT Brian Kelly: Floyd will play all games or none this season

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On college football live they are reporting that Brian Kellys says Michael Floyd will play all 12 games or none at all.  I was wondering about a 2 game suspension that way we dodge him, but I am sure they will let him play all.

Beavis

May 25th, 2011 at 6:20 PM ^

1 drunk playing wide receiver for ND is not greater than ~90,000 fans that have never been that drunk at a game, because it is at night.

(discount on the fan numbers to remove any non-students younger than the age of 18)

GoBlueInNYC

May 25th, 2011 at 6:21 PM ^

I feel like a one game suspension is usually pretty typical for a first offense. Isn't this Floyd's 3rd? Either way, a zero-game suspension seems a tad lenient.

TESOE

May 25th, 2011 at 6:25 PM ^

saying he is going to play him.  Tough choice on his part /s.   I think Kelly is not doing anything here that doesn't serve himself...nothing new here.

mmiicchhiiggaann

May 25th, 2011 at 6:27 PM ^

If we didn't have a player going through a similar situation I am sure I would say he needs to be suspended. But im hoping Stonum doesn't miss any games either.

M-Wolverine

May 25th, 2011 at 7:54 PM ^

That you hold yourself to a higher standard.
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<br>Having said that, maybe we should see what we actually do ourselves before we get on a high horse over ND.
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<br>If Stonum plays but Floyd doesn't, will everyone still be upset?

umchicago

May 25th, 2011 at 8:29 PM ^

i hope hoke suspends stonum all year.  if he minds his p's and q's he then could come back for a reshirt senior year.  playing time should be a priveledge that is earned.

WolvinLA2

May 25th, 2011 at 8:43 PM ^

I'm not upset that I'm holding myself to a higher standard, I'm upset that the other guy isn't.  If I'm running a race against you, and we agree to start at the count of 3, and you start at 2 and beat me because of it, I'm going to be upset.  Sure, I played by the rules, but at the end of the day, I lost. 

If we lost to ND because Michael Floyd played and Stonum didn't, I'm not going to feel any better knowing we did the right thing.  I'm going to feel like shit because we lost, and even more pissed because it really wasn't fair.

WolvinLA2

May 25th, 2011 at 10:21 PM ^

Fine - it's not a perfect analogy, but the point is that there is infair play going on.  If we are punishing our players and they aren't, the playing field isn't even.  There should absolutely be an NCAA rule about this, because in all instances where there isn't an actual rule, doing the right thing makes you less competitive.  I don't like it when my opponent has the option to do the right thing or not, because when he chooses not to, I'm left with an unfair advantage. 

Point is, you're left with two teams playing with two different sets of rules, and I don't like that.

BRCE

May 25th, 2011 at 6:51 PM ^

Assuming "none" is the obvious answer, this incident is already Kelly's third blatant Win-At-All-Costs move at ND.

I'd say he won't last long at a place like ND, but their only successful coach in the last 30 years was their only other dirty one.

 

 

 

BRCE

May 25th, 2011 at 7:11 PM ^

Crist is obviously one. The other would be his refusal to move practice indoors in awful weather conditions because he thought it would make his team tougher. That resulted in the death of a camera kid.

Kelly doesn't pass the smell test, to say the least.

4godkingandwol…

May 25th, 2011 at 6:52 PM ^

... I'm going to resist commenting until Stonum's situation plays out.  Nothing I hate more than hypocritic stances on morality caused by the blind pride of team affiliation.  

dennisblundon

May 25th, 2011 at 6:52 PM ^

I had my high horse all mounted up and ready to go but Stonum kind of throws a wrench in my plans. So the score right now is Floyd-3 Stonum-2. If I were the coach I would give them equal amount of games suspended per offense with the oppurtunity of erasing 1 game with amazing behavior and conditioning drills. I would push them so hard that they should want to quit and if at the end they haven't, then they are back on the team with a reduced suspension.

 

JHendo

May 26th, 2011 at 1:07 AM ^

I'm somewhat with you on the latter part of your statement.  When it comes to Stonum and his now 2nd slip up, I fully advocate the Lloyd Carr/Carson Butler approach in this and similar situations: Unconditionally and undeniably prove yourself to the team and more importantly the betterment of yourself to the point where any sort of game suspension is unnecessary or just don't try to come back at all.

MichiganMan2424

May 25th, 2011 at 7:01 PM ^

Should be suspended for the season, if not, both coaches made an awful decision. These men are being free rides to play football, be responsible men and show you deserve it.

dennisblundon

May 25th, 2011 at 7:08 PM ^

I understand why you are upset but let me explain why I don't agree with you. These kids do represent the University, I get that, but they also make the University a lot of cash. Most students who get a DUI, have their parents pay for the lawyer as well as fines and reap the wrath that follows. These kids will get the same except their coaches will make life hell as well as the having their name on the front page of the paper, not in with the rest of offenders. These kids will pay for their mistakes far more than the average student by the time it is all said and done.

Brimley

May 25th, 2011 at 7:14 PM ^

 Given that Kelly et al took zero responsibility for putting a kid on a flimsy tower in a gale and there wasn't even a real investigation into an alleged rape by a player followed by the victim's suicide, I'm not holding my breath for a harsh penalty, or maybe even ANY penalty, in this matter.

phork

May 25th, 2011 at 8:16 PM ^

The school took all the responsibility for that kid being up there changed their policies, installed remote cameras, put up a scholarship in Declans name, paid their fines.  Yes it won't bring the kid back, but the parents were more than satisfied of what has come out of the accident.  <Cue the "Lets sue them for all their worth" crowd>

There was an investigation by the SB Police into an alleged rape.  There was no rape that occurred and the police were satisfied that all avenues were explored.

Kelly stated he was all in or all out, I took that to mean that if Floyd does what he is supposed to do he will be playing in the fall, he has been suspended since the incident.  While I share your enthusiasm in regard to game suspensions, ResLife did not hand down anything football related.  My other thought on this is that since it did happen this semester, why would it count to next semester?  While the DUI is serious business, the other incidents were both drinking under age, off campus.

Appreciate any slams coming my way because I am a homer after all.  Just know that I think atleast a couple of games are warranted.

acs236

May 26th, 2011 at 6:06 AM ^

It's a silly trick.  Make it sound like there are only two options, one of which seems much too harsh, then people will think you made the right decision when you pick the other.

 

I have to think that there are ND fans, a good number, in fact, who think a suspension of a couple of games is warranted.  But that's not an option according to Kelly.

CWoodson

May 25th, 2011 at 8:51 PM ^

Two things, since most of this is debated throughout the thread.  One is that it's fine to look at these incidents separately, but taken together they paint an unflattering portrait of a school that claims to hold itself to a higher standard.

The other is the statement "no rape occurred" is not something you can prove.  If you want to say police didn't find enough evidence to charge anyone with rape, that's fine, but it's a BIG difference.

TESOE

May 25th, 2011 at 9:28 PM ^

Great that's not avoiding responsibility.  Mistakes were made.  The passive voice is so powerful in taking responsibility.  That's BS.  Kelly made the choice to practice.

Swarbrick said unusual winds caused the incident.  Kelly never took responsibility.  The school took responsibility because they have the deep pockets and it is in their interest to get this to...wait for it...all blow over.

I appreciate correction on this because I like Kelly as a football coach.  But the way Kelly and Swarbrick are handling that is pathetic.

GoBlueInNYC

May 25th, 2011 at 9:47 PM ^

Floyd's first two offenses were just drinking underage? Like, two MIPs? Oh.

Pfft, that's nothing. I mean, he should be punished for the DUI, absolutely, and the fact that he has two MIPs definitely doesn't help. But that's a lot different than three DUIs.

Not criticizing people's opinions. Just kind of marveling at my own ignorance.