OT: "Band of Brother” Bill Guarnere passes away

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In this day and age of cyncism the word "hero" when applied to a soldier is  often scorned for unthinking jingoism, but there  exists a precious few men who have rightfully earned our reverence.

Another day, another WW2 veteran gone. He just happened to be more famous than most. If any of you have  a chance thank a WW2 veteran today.  You'll never know if you will have another chance.

 

stephenrjking

March 9th, 2014 at 3:06 PM ^

I was just telling my daughter today that it is very sad that when she is an adult, no WWII vets will be left. Guarnere faced down the Axis at Brecourt Manor, and withstood their last desperate attacks at Bastogne. He took a shell, survived, and lived a full life. In one sense, it's unfair that a few soldiers get all the attention from a much larger group of people. However, it is good for those of us too young to remember to learn about a few, so that we can better know the many. They were regular people who answered the call of the time, and we are greatly in their debt. -- "Grandpa, were you a hero in World War 2?" Grandpa said, "No. But I served in a company of Heroes."

Roc Blue in the Lou

March 9th, 2014 at 3:21 PM ^

On the other hand, we are virtually surrounded by modern day soldier-heros who faught in Iraq, Afghanistan and around the world since 2001, and these folks deserve our equal respect.  We can also be grateful that wwII has not been repeated...and those we faught against are now close allies.

beevo

March 9th, 2014 at 3:24 PM ^

I met Shifty at a chow hall in Korea back in 2006 before I retired. Incredibly humble and gracious man. I'm in awe of that generation.

SmackJack

March 9th, 2014 at 3:33 PM ^

We must never forget the sacrifices American and Allied veterans made to stop tyranny in its tracks. Thank you for preserving freedom.

Here's to the greatest generation that ever lived and all veterans..

Wear a poppy with pride and support our troops!

harmon40

March 9th, 2014 at 3:47 PM ^

One: I met a WW2 tanker vet once. He told me about the time his crew got the drop on a German tank whose turret was facing away from them. Unfortunately their shell bounced off the enemy tank. He said there was terrified panic as they scrambled to abandon their tank as the Germans brought their turret around; they managed to escape seconds before their tank was destroyed.

Two: my mom had an uncle who was a marine in the Pacific theater. We kids used to marvel at the captured Japanese flags in his garage. We could never get him to talk about it, but he did share one great story about he and a buddy unloading pallets of spam on a beach one day. Suddenly a Japanese Zero appeared and began strafing the beach. As Uncle Leo and his buddy took cover behind one of the Spam pallets, they could hear the metallic tinging of bullets passing through cans of Spam. Uncle Leo's buddy looks at him and says, "I knew this s*** had to be good for something!"

I really miss him.

M-Dog

March 9th, 2014 at 5:06 PM ^

Strange story:  My Dad worked as a bartender in a private "German Society" in Pennsylvania where there are large numbers of people of German descent.  While there, He met a former German U-Boat commander.  The fatality rate of German U-Boat crews during WWII:  95%.  The guy defied all odds to still be alive.

My Dad said that when it got late and they were all drunk, they would all sing their old WWII German military songs with an intense passion.  He said it was fascinating and scary at the same time.

 

slimj091

March 9th, 2014 at 7:21 PM ^

why would it be scary? an almost absolute majority of german soldiers, and naval men were not nazi's. they were normal german citizens that answered their country's call to arm's. just like our country's veteran's. and just like our veterans they formed extreme bonds with their fighting brothers as well.

Evil Empire

March 10th, 2014 at 8:57 AM ^

I worked for an international company from 2000-2010 which had operations in the US and Holland, with some sales offices just across the border in Germany.  There was a general manager of the Dutch facility who worked there from the early 70s until he retired shortly before I arrived.  The old company newsletter (published at the US headquarters) was fabulously subtle when announcing his hire and describing his past work experience.  Something like "Klaus served in the navy during the war."  He was a U-boat commander.

sadeto

March 9th, 2014 at 3:55 PM ^

My dad volunteered at age 17. My sons are very fortunate to have him around. I look at my 19 year old and think that his grandpa was two years younger when he fought and I can't believe it.

rob f

March 9th, 2014 at 4:27 PM ^

volunteered for WWI duty at age 17, and was sent over to Germany at the tail end of "The War to End All Wars":  his job by the time the ship reached shore was not on the battlefield, but to do MP duty and patrol the taverns and beer halls and brothels and anywhere else an American GI could get himself into trouble.  He also did a bit of battlefield cleanup duty and brought home some WWI souvenirs that he finally showed and described proudly to me just a couple years before he passed on; his stories about the MP duty were, to say the least, quite interesting. 

I was fortunate enough to have him around until 30 years ago this spring; when he passed at age 90, very very few of his generation of heroes were still around.  So 30 years later, we're at the same point with WWII Vets, as their #'s quickly dwindle. 

Thank one soon, while you still can.

Cheesmo

March 9th, 2014 at 4:32 PM ^

There was a Band of Brothers night at a baseball game in Lancaster. PA a few years ago. Had the chance to shake the hand of Wild Bill and Babe Heffron. The actor that played Wild Bill was pushing him in his wheelchair. A few of the other actors were there. Dick Winters is also buried in a small cemetary about 10 minutes from where I live. I don't get goosebumps when I meet people except I remember getting them when I met Wild Bill and Babe. Rest in peace.

Bobby Boucher

March 9th, 2014 at 4:36 PM ^

There are a lot more "hero soldiers" out there than you think.  Just because there aren't any more HBO specials about them doesn't mean they don't exist!

But yes, RIP Wild Bill.

SalvatoreQuattro

March 9th, 2014 at 4:54 PM ^

I was commenting on the general cynical tone of our times when it comes to all things war, not saying that there not more heroic soldiers than just WW2 soldiers.

That said, World War II is incontestably the most justified war we have fought in our existence.There isn't a war that compares to it in that regard,

Danwillhor

March 9th, 2014 at 4:37 PM ^

for that man, his comrades and that entire generation. They finally got old Guarnere, this time. Not an ultra-religious man and don't want to break the board rules but "they", IMO, are not people as much as a place when talking about those like Bill. They weren't fighting guerrilla tribes or militaries dwarfed by our own. They were fighting well equipped, sized and skilled armies (some things better than ours at the time) in a TRUE battle for our own and World freedom. No knock on today's soldiers (!) but we haven't faced an opponent in the same league as us in a very long time. Bill's generation, those that stood toe to toe with powerful zealot militaries equally and often better equipped than themselves, deserve a special place in the afterlife (should it exist and be a good place). The term "hero" and "fighting for our freedom" gets tossed around a little too much these days, IMHO. In his and that generation's case it was literal. RIP, Wild Bill.

Danwillhor

March 9th, 2014 at 4:45 PM ^

I respect the modern military. I lost a friend in Afghanistan a few years back and have family that has served recently (none currently 95-2007). A family member of mine fought in Fallujah. They are heroes. However, it's different. I can't explain it, they both agree with me and admit it's two different wars/scenarios so they can't really be compared. All we agree on is that the WW2 generation and soldiers were special. A different time and people altogether.

M Go Blue 17

March 9th, 2014 at 5:04 PM ^

This short video was done by an active duty soldier and contains interviews with Joe Galloway, who was at landing zone X-Ray in Vietnam (the battle that the movie We Were Soldiers with Mel Gibson was based in), a vet from The Korean War, and also WWII. The bet from WWII was part of many of the famous battles portrayed in Band Of Brothers. Worth the 3:30. http://youtu.be/2nmcdN3SJJQ

w2j2

March 9th, 2014 at 5:09 PM ^

He flew an SB2C HellDiver off of the USS Phillipine Sea in WW2.

To this day he can tell you exactly how to fly that plane, dive and hit the target, and catch the cable to land it.

He grew up the son of a share-cropper.  His mother had died in child birth.  They had no electricity or running water.  His sister sewed his pants from horse blankets.

He is one tough SOB.  I know of nobody in my (baby boom) generation who could match his mental & physical ruggedness.

"The greatest generation", indeed!

 

Danwillhor

March 9th, 2014 at 5:21 PM ^

what kind of worries me is that the vast majority of fighting adults now (18-50ish.....worst case scenario) are just soft. Soft as baby sh....you get me. We rely so much on technology that another all out ground war with any nation capable of removing that advantage would weed out our weak so friggin fast. Imagine the people you see on reality shows being drafted to fight......anyone, let alone a China or Russia or whoever. We're so soft it's truly not even funny.

Danwillhor

March 9th, 2014 at 10:55 PM ^

I'm aware. I think it has because it always had felt so true. However, while not arguing if put forth that no nation has had such a monopoly on "ease of life"as modern America. Even when other empires or superpowers ruled it was in times where only the very elite could spend as much time as the average American in such leisure. Or so it seems....

Don

March 9th, 2014 at 5:22 PM ^

at 17. He ended up at D-Day on a Higgins Boat ferrying troops to the Omaha Beach meat grinder. Never talked about it much until the 50th anniversary of the Normandy Landings. First and only time I've ever seen him in tears.

Hero.

KBLOW

March 9th, 2014 at 6:21 PM ^

A great series on HBO, but I cannot recommend the book strongly enough.  Even more insight about how amazing those men were.

eth2

March 9th, 2014 at 7:23 PM ^

These words fail at describing Wild Bill. What a man. What a life. R.I.P.

Central character in series, especially Bastogne episode which is arguably the best.

Black Socks

March 9th, 2014 at 7:28 PM ^

It's painful as these last WW2 heroes pass away.  They were truly the greatest generation.  RIP Bill Guarnere.  Respect.

Buccaneer_9

March 9th, 2014 at 8:27 PM ^

If you haven't seen Band of Brothers, I dare you to watch it without sobbing at some point during the intros.

"The Greatest Generation" indeed.

kdhoffma

March 9th, 2014 at 9:19 PM ^

My great uncle passed away three days ago.  Had a 30 year army career starting with WWII.  Fought under General Patton's Third US Army in the 94th infantry division.  Was at the Battle of the Bulge, played a role in the Lippizzaner Horse rescue (a character in the Disney movie was based on him) and helped with the liberation of the Dachau Concentration Camp.  Recieved a battlefield promotion from Patton.  Later served in the Korean War and commanded the 808th Engineer Battalion which constructed forward airfields.  Spent his later military career in the computer science field and as Deputy Commander of the US Army Computer Systems Command.  Retired a Colonel with  eight battle stars, two Legions of Merit, three Bronze Stars, and two Army Commendation Medals... and is in the US Amry Engineer HOF.  Just an awesome guy with some incredible stories... he'll be missed but never forgotten.

Roc Blue in the Lou

March 10th, 2014 at 12:07 AM ^

Watch and listen carefully.  These men do not want to be "memorialized" as heroes...they were afraid, just like today's modern soldier, but did the job given them in spite of the dangers.  And they did not fight, so much, for "freedom" or justice, but for thier brothers.  Hence, the title and theme.  And, yes, i bought the series years ago in a fairly special commemorative tin set.  It almost sounds like some on this blog believe  courage and heroism and the will to fight are adjectives reserved to those who displayed them, now, 70-some years ago.  I have never taken a bullet, or run into enemy fire to pick up a fallen comrade, but i read plenty and those types of heroic actions take place regularly in the wars currently being fought.  I don't care if it's a Nazi 88 or an iraqi IED, it takes GUTS to face these killers on a daily basis--and that is something i will never take for granted in the men and women who have served our country at war....then and now.  Thanks to all who have served this nation. 

StephenRKass

March 10th, 2014 at 12:21 AM ^

I watched "Band of Brothers" last year with my wife and 12 year old son, and absolutely loved it. Sorry to hear of Guarnere's passing.

My grandfather flew in WWI, and my father-in-law flew in WWII, dropping paratroopers at both Normandy and Market Garden. For all I know, he could have dropped Guarnere.

I'm proud of both of them, and proud that my daughter is continuing the military tradition, serving as a fire controlman in the Navy with the Aegis anti-ballistic missile defense system.