Non-Sports: Michigan Named #20 University in the World by Times Higher Education
September 26th, 2018 at 12:23 PM ^
It is very good news for U-M!
And I know I am biased, but I truly believe having been in the business world for over 25 years, we are a better school than those ranked 15-19: Cal Berkeley, Columbia, UCLA, Duke and Cornell. All fine schools - but I will take our programs, education and quality of graduates over any of those 5 all day, every day.
It is terrific that we are recognized worldwide for the strength of our wonderful University. Alabama, Clemson and Georgia have awesome football teams - but they come nowhere close to us when combining academics, true achievement, and "sports fun".
Go Blue!!!
September 26th, 2018 at 12:36 PM ^
I'm sure this is true. However, I have one critique. I would humbly ask that the guidance counselors instruct their undergraduates to treat their field-related jobs as actual jobs, and not like resume enhancers for their grad school applications.
It's pretty sad as an employer to have far more confidence and trust in your Washtenaw Community College students than you do in your 4.0 UM undergrads, and to see the pattern repeat itself year after year after year.
September 26th, 2018 at 10:43 PM ^
Perhaps that's because the cc students are capable of being great assets to the workforce and overall economy?
Or that they possess the necessary "real world" skills that a 4.0 gpa can't teach you?
September 26th, 2018 at 1:21 PM ^
I live in Los Angeles and if you take the in-state tuition out of the picture...I know very few people that would send their kids to UCLA over Michigan.
September 26th, 2018 at 12:24 PM ^
I misread this as High Times Education.
September 26th, 2018 at 12:28 PM ^
Sadly, UM didn't even make the top 10 in High Times list... :-(
https://hightimes.com/culture/the-most-weed-friendly-colleges-in-the-co…
September 26th, 2018 at 12:29 PM ^
Damn I think this deserves its own thread.
September 26th, 2018 at 12:34 PM ^
I only looked this up because I thought the OP was posting a list from High Times, instead of Times Higher. Honest mistake...
September 26th, 2018 at 12:35 PM ^
Get out of my head!
September 26th, 2018 at 2:45 PM ^
How is that possible? There's at least one MM dispensary visible from campus. Literally right across the street.
September 26th, 2018 at 4:47 PM ^
My first assumption was that all of the top schools would be in states where it has been recreationally legalized. Oddly enough, it isn't. Which is quite stupid considering that you could still get criminal charges at most of the top 10 schools. Doesn't sound "stoner friendly" to me.
September 26th, 2018 at 12:28 PM ^
It's #1 in my heart.
September 26th, 2018 at 12:34 PM ^
My dyslexia kicked in for a minute and I read it as High Times Education vs Times Higher Education and I was shocked we weren't better.
That being said, this is pretty impressive.
September 26th, 2018 at 12:42 PM ^
Awesome - the first of two victories against Northwestern (#25) this week!
September 26th, 2018 at 12:44 PM ^
I always thought it was Oxford University (not University of Oxford). Did they change it at some point?
September 26th, 2018 at 12:46 PM ^
This is the ranking that actually means something, as opposed to the US News and World Report rankings. Great news.
September 26th, 2018 at 12:48 PM ^
Absurdly flawed study. How can Michigan State be ranked 93rd? They are nowhere near that good.
September 26th, 2018 at 1:49 PM ^
If you can fog a mirror, you will be accepted at Michigan State.
September 26th, 2018 at 12:49 PM ^
I'm amazed how often this stupid topic gets posted to the board. This is a sports blog not a UM alumni circle jerk. 80% of the subscribers probably are more "Wal Mart" than University material.
September 26th, 2018 at 1:00 PM ^
I'm proud of my Michigan degree and the prestige it represents. If that's not OK with you, maybe the University of Michigan isn't the right school to support. We're more than an athletic department.
September 26th, 2018 at 1:04 PM ^
Uh.... what? You don't think a website devoted to University of Michigan athletics should ever discuss University of Michigan academics?
I could probably even convince you that this ranking is relevant to sports (it is).
September 26th, 2018 at 1:18 PM ^
Ever ask yourself if you are the one on the wrong blog?
September 26th, 2018 at 1:52 PM ^
"Am I the baddy?"
September 26th, 2018 at 1:27 PM ^
Come on, man, didn't you ever play school?
September 26th, 2018 at 1:31 PM ^
Thanks for convincing me to log in for the downvote. I have to assume that most people who are heavy Michigan fans likely have ties to the university, otherwise what's the point? Even if they didn't go there, perhaps they grew up watching Michigan football because parents went there, etc. or they have gone to games for most of their lives from growing up in the area. An area by the way where most kids end up going to college and by definition don't meet your not university material claim.
September 26th, 2018 at 2:36 PM ^
You see there's this thing called a title way up at the tippy top. That (usually) gives you a pretty good idea of what's inside said post. You may want to read it closely before randomly clicking it in the future lest you waste your time.
- signed a Walmart guy that had zero shot at getting in the doors but still cheers loudly
September 26th, 2018 at 6:04 PM ^
Where there's a will, there's a way...
September 26th, 2018 at 2:48 PM ^
Hello Dano1984,
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Have a good day!
mgowill
September 26th, 2018 at 8:23 PM ^
This guy...
I like this guy.
September 26th, 2018 at 9:42 PM ^
Nicely done.
September 27th, 2018 at 6:51 AM ^
U-M alumni are the wrong group of individuals to shit on, man. This sounds like pure salt. I graduated a Wolverine and I would never shit on a non-alum fan--don't do that to us.
September 26th, 2018 at 12:51 PM ^
Very impressive, especially when you consider most of the higher-ranked schools are private, and therefore have far more resources per capita.
Here are the U.S. public schools in the top 50:
15. UC Berkeley
17. UCLA
20. Michigan
28. U. Washington
30. UC San Diego
34. Georgia Tech
39. UT Austin
43. Wisconsin
50. Illinois
September 26th, 2018 at 1:02 PM ^
That seems low for UT Austin and Wisconsin? Below UC San Diego? C'mon...
September 26th, 2018 at 1:42 PM ^
I'm always wary of these lists. Part of the ranking comes from input from high school counselors. I don't know about you, but I would not trust rankings from my former high school counselor. Also, the counselors from California will rank all the UCs higher than most schools in the country. That's why you get random UCs ranked higher than schools like UT Austin.
September 26th, 2018 at 1:56 PM ^
So you're thinking of US News and World Report. THE uses things like research output, the learning environment, etc. It uses data, not opinion.
"The performance indicators are grouped into five areas:
- Teaching (the learning environment)
- Research (volume, income and reputation)
- Citations (research influence);
- International outlook (staff, students and research)
- Industry income (knowledge transfer)"
September 26th, 2018 at 1:58 PM ^
UT Austin only just got a medical school in 2016 (I think, it's very recent). They haven't graduated a class yet. I'm sure that brings them down a peg.
September 26th, 2018 at 2:07 PM ^
UC San Diego is strong in research, especially biomedical and engineering. These rankings use some measure of research productivity, which I think is why some Ivy League schools are so far down the list (#53 Brown, #99 Dartmouth).
September 26th, 2018 at 2:22 PM ^
Also, maybe that's Wisconsin - Whitewater and not Wisconsin - Madison. Oh WTF.
Go Blue!
September 26th, 2018 at 1:33 PM ^
Why is indiana always down below illinois?
September 26th, 2018 at 1:56 PM ^
They're both great state schools, but Illinois is far closer to a Michigan, say, than Indiana. For instance, UIUC has a world-class library--it's pushing the top 5 behind Harvard/Yale/the big public library systems.
September 26th, 2018 at 2:59 PM ^
Osu better than Emory? Ummmm... No. Sorry.
September 26th, 2018 at 3:37 PM ^
Oxford is No. 1 (take that, you dirty Tabs).
UCLA being ranked ahead of Michigan does not make me smile.
September 26th, 2018 at 4:56 PM ^
Interesting information. As a former international grad student, I was surprised there weren't more international students at U of M, but maybe the ratio has changed since my (long ago) day. Incidentally, I'm impressed that three universities from the state of Illinois rated so highly.
Academically, not football, of course.
Go Blue!
September 26th, 2018 at 5:04 PM ^
There were a shitload of Asian international students in engineering. I'd say 10-15% of any given class would be international students. Graduated in '07.
September 26th, 2018 at 5:34 PM ^
Compared to the Oxbridge, though, that's nothing. Oxford is like 40% international.
September 26th, 2018 at 8:25 PM ^
My response was a very rough estimate as I can't recall such details from over a decade ago. It was a significant amount of the class.
It definitely wasn't 40% though.