Well it was (not) fun while it (never really) lasted. Praying for spring football.
Eh they are probably hearing the same things we are: U presidents met yesterday and most probably want to shut it down but 2-3 exceptions (OSU and NEB, maybe PSU or IOWA?) are strongly trying to get some kind of season played for $$ reasons. ADs were briefed and the news is trickling down thru the depts
August 9th, 2020 at 11:44 AM ^
Even that fuck stick Gene Smith is in the "no in person classes, no sports" camp.
So another championship for the SEC?
If the B1G cancels, all of the P5 will follow suit.
Any conference that plays in the fall will expose themselves to enormous liability if a student athlete contracts a serious CoVid infection.
Also, the greedy hypocrisy of the NCAA would be on full display, as football players are exposed to Covid, while campuses are shuttered to limit Covid exposure to the rest of the student population
Since May I believed this to be the outcome. “First, do no harm.” A Bend but don’t break defense does not work against COVID.
Sometimes in life, there is no pleasure in being right.
SEC going full steam ahead.
Will be the only game in town with record attendance and viewership.
Can a Darwin award be given, en masse, or are they restricted to individual winners, only?
August 9th, 2020 at 10:04 AM ^
I think the 250,000 bikers gathering in Sturgis already won
August 9th, 2020 at 10:16 AM ^
As a COVID-19 event I think Sturgis is overrated. There's risk involved, but not a horrible amount. Motorcycles are generally ridden outside, right? It's summer and people will be mostly outside. I'd expect a surge from indoor seating in bars and restaurants but probably not a huge one.
August 9th, 2020 at 10:40 AM ^
If it was a 1 day event, I might agree with you, but 10 days, that is lots of interaction.
August 9th, 2020 at 10:50 AM ^
In evaluating risk, keep in mind that the activities at Sturgis are only 15% riding. The rest is made up of bathroom breaks (5%), Marshall Tucker cover bands (10%), and sitting around bullshitting and lying about previous motorcycle trips (70%).
August 9th, 2020 at 10:50 AM ^
Have you ever watched any videos of what goes on at Sturgis? Yeah, most definitely not "overrated". This will be a super spreader event, no doubt.
Just picture what the bars will look like! That High School hallway picture, but with leather vests & tramp stamps!
And chaps. Don’t forget the chaps. Hopefully with something underneath.
Record attendance, not sure about that...
If a school opens up its stadium to attendance, you can bet on record setting numbers. The hypocrisy of allowing fans while school and player contact is limited will be a sight to behold...
August 9th, 2020 at 10:06 AM ^
Yup, it will.
Right up to the 2nd week they play and some random overweight coach gets it from a player, gets sick and dies.
Then the attorneys will take over.
August 9th, 2020 at 12:46 PM ^
As a coach I was required to sign a waiver, absolving my employer from liability in order to participate in workouts/practices.
As a non-lawyer, do these liability waivers usually stand up in court? I assume they don't protect from certain types of negligence and certainly don't prevent cases from being filed.
Like I can't sue a ropes course if I get a heart attack, but I can sue them even with my signed waiver if they have been negligent in upkeep of harnesses/lines and one breaks and I get paralyzed.
I would guess the equivalent here would be if the testing and safety protocols by the school district were either unsafely designed or not implemented as planned you would have a suit?
No, they don't generally (and maybe ever) hold up.
As a non-lawyer, I don't know if they stand up or not.
I do think there would be a problem if the district didn't hold up its end of the bargain in some way, but considering our protocols are in place and WE have screwed up if we don't follow through with them, I'm not sure how much they could be held accountable.
August 9th, 2020 at 10:44 AM ^
If that’s true all of those schools better pray to God that none of their student athletes become seriously ill from the virus or, God forbid, die. If that happened while the remaining P5 conferences shut down, the SEC would be opening itself up to a massive lawsuit and a PR hell storm that would take years to recover from or even just get past. Coaches would be fired, ADs, school presidents, not the least of which the SEC Commissioner, and everyone who even had a whiff of influence in the matter would be on the chopping block. The NCAA wouldn’t escape from it either, and their hypocrisy would be laid bare for the whole world to see.
No, it’s not likely that a college athlete in prime physical condition dies from COVID. But the odds of it are still there, and we’ve seen the virus start causing lung damage in some who are recovering, that I’m sure would inhibit someone’s ability to keep playing in the future. Who’s to say that athlete doesn’t come back 2-3 years from now and sue their school and conference for making them play in a pandemic and ruining their professional career.
The question will just be if the SEC decides it’s worth taking the risk. And if there is any conference that would decide it is, then it’ll be the SEC.
August 9th, 2020 at 10:53 AM ^
That all seems logical and what not, but my counter point would just be this; Donald Trump. He has presided over the death of 160k+ and counting, and still enjoys massive, insane person support. I don't see how the SEC would be much different, considering the demographics of the SEC.
August 9th, 2020 at 11:38 AM ^
Stop trying to BLAME a virus on a President...Immature hyperpartian and just flat out ridiculous.. why must people make everything political...geesh
August 9th, 2020 at 11:47 AM ^
It is what it is?
August 9th, 2020 at 11:50 AM ^
...maybe because there is a significant political component??? And clearly you have no understanding of the medical blundering that has transpired at the federal level-or you're profoundly willfully ignorant.
You mean the governors putting recovering COVID patients in nursing homes? I didn’t know the governors were an extension of the federal government. Spare me the “medical blundering at the federal level nonsense”. You may not be willfully ignorant just willfully partisan. You see whatever your political slant allows you to see. Part of me really wants Biden to win so that people like you can get what you ask for.
August 10th, 2020 at 4:47 PM ^
Thank you,
August 9th, 2020 at 11:50 AM ^
Click once-two posts-yipee.
August 9th, 2020 at 11:52 AM ^
Donald Trump isn’t responsible for COVID-19. He and his administration are directly responsible for the disastrous federal government response. That is a plain and simple fact. Sorry it hurts your feelings. Almost every other advanced country has this under control because of competent, centralized national leadership, which is sorely lacking in this country.
August 9th, 2020 at 12:08 PM ^
Tell me what Administration would have done better.
August 9th, 2020 at 12:25 PM ^
Is this a serious question?
Not disbanded the pandemic team a year or two ago
Actually coordinated one OUNCE of, well, coordinated federal response
Distributed PPE and ventilators to states as needed
Actually say "hey this is serious" and not "it's a hoax"
Not fucked up the testing process
Actually used the Defense Production Act in a timely manner to create masks/PPE, rather than fucking around for a couple months
Not crow about bunk treatments
Not put a guy (Pence) who has a history of fucking up public health problems (look up HIV outbreak in Indiana) in charge of the task force
Not directly try to undermine some state's stay at home orders by tweeting about liberating them from shutdowns
And on and on and on and on
August 9th, 2020 at 12:56 PM ^
Not sure why you were downvoted. Here's a +1 to get you back to even.
Are you kidding me? Have you actually researched this or do you spit up what CNN/MSNBC/Fox tell you? The US has not been prepared for DECADES. We have been playing bio-warfare ‘games’ Since early 2000’s with little actual preparedness. This means Bush, Obama, and Trump did squat to prepare. Experts have been warning o a pandemic for 30-40 years. You need to research more.
August 9th, 2020 at 12:29 PM ^
The way you've worded this could mean two different things... I'll respond to both.
Interpretation #1: Damn near all of them would've done better. In particular, the most recent one.
Interpretation #2: If this administration would've responded quicker, when medical experts were warning us of this pandemic in 2019. Or even if they would've taken action as late as February when it was clear. If they would NOT have referred to it as a hoax. If they would NOT have politicized masks, not matter how effective or ineffective this administration thinks they are. If they would NOT have defended areas that research and respond to pandemics. If they would NOT have ignored the recommendations of health experts prior to June. If they would have been more serious about shutting down the country, stay at-home mandates, social distancing, etc. If they would NOT have compared it to the flu. If they would have showed any level of competence or compassion. If they would have been less concerned with the narrative around the numbers and more concerned with public health and safety. If they would stop playing up to their base and focusing on the country as a whole. If they would have acknowledged how this virus disproportionately impacts people of color and low-income families.
Holy shit, I could keep going this is depressing. Goodbye.
Remember the “Easter Miracle” ? - virus will vanish by spring proclamation.
Magical thinking may work with reality TV shows and circumventing legal and financial accountability, but there’s no way to con a virus.
Tragic irony that we have a snake oil salesman potus during the worst pandemic in 100 years.
I feel like I’m listening to Don Lemon or Rachel Maddox... keep pushing those talking points buddy.
Pretty much all of them.
Easy answer - MOST EVERY OTHER!!!
A Hillary Clinton administration, for starters.
Almost every other advanced country has this under control? Seriously. Such a leftist perspective.
You're either completely missing my point, or willfully ignoring it. Not sure which one.
To be clear; what I'm saying is that while our country (starting with this admin, because that's how it works, not my fault DT is the guy in there) has handled this virus terribly, he still enjoys a pretty wide base of support. I didn't think that was hard to understand from my post, but there you go.
Fuck this board sucks now! Click to get some news from "inside the program" and it of course gets political.
Seriously. Just stop with this stupidity. It doesn’t matter who was President. The USA was not prepared, and had not been prepared for DECADES.
Man some of you are just obsessed with Trump.
There must be a daily morning memo that goes out to you all to remind you that anything Trump says today is wrong and needs to be refuted in every way imaginable.
There is blame to go around but this is a pandemic and we are not a country that is going to lock down everybody with force or otherwise. States largely have to make these calls because, as we all know, what is good for NYC might not be good for Iowa City and on and on.
When Trump blocked flights from China early on, he was called a racist by a lot of people but it was at least one step in the right direction. Of course there are things we should have and can do differently but every Governor needs to take responsibility for their own state.
AHHmm, I am talking to you Cuomo. Forcing ~4,500 covid positive patients into nursing homes, dumb dumb. And he still says it was not a mistake. Potentially thousands of deaths on his hands alone.
August 10th, 2020 at 4:42 PM ^
Thank you for response. Finally a voice of reason, this blog will implode if the season is cancelled. The Trump derangement syndrome is making this very hard to enjoy.
August 9th, 2020 at 12:50 PM ^
I’m not a lawyer but it seems easy enough to protect yourself from a legal standpoint with waivers, allowing the players to opt out, etc. otherwise ski resorts wouldn’t exist. I think it’s more a matter of whether it’s worth playing a complicated, distracting and dangerous fall season when it could be simple and safe in the spring. And once one P5 conference announces a spring season, they all will.
August 9th, 2020 at 11:04 AM ^
And record superspreads and deaths. You’d think they would have learned something by now. But there’s no overestimating the stupidity, ignorance, and greed of Southern states.