jdib

September 19th, 2021 at 12:38 PM ^

Because historically some of our most successful seasons were born out of us being underdogs.  I quite like it that way myself.  Just like this season, I was a little skeptical but I feel alive again as a Michigan fan after watching yesterday's game. I know it was only NIU but considering how many top 10 teams have struggled against teams that, on paper, they should be beating soundly... ( ND, Clemson, being the two most notorious standouts.)  I'll take underdog all day

HailHail47

September 19th, 2021 at 12:13 PM ^

Western Michigan beating Pitt and NIU beating Georgia Tech doesn’t hurt. Especially considering Georgia Tech played Clemson close. Right now it seems like Michigan can play with any team, but it remains to be seen how we do when a good defense commits to stopping the run game. We will know a lot more after Rutgers and Wisconsin. 

JonnyHintz

September 19th, 2021 at 2:44 PM ^

S&P+ is designed to be more of a predictive model than it is a current resume. Are OSU and OU as bad as they’ve looked so far? Probably not, and that’s what the ranking is meant to reflect.  While outperforming expectations will improve your expected future success, OU and OSU have been hurt by their performances so far. But they’re still, rightfully so, predicted to be very very good.

Sambojangles

September 19th, 2021 at 3:09 PM ^

Here's the link to the article for those of you with ESPN+

And I copied the full ratings for the top 10 so you can see the magnitude of difference between each team. 

TEAM RATING OFFENSE DEFENSE SPECIAL TEAMS

1. Alabama (3-0) 27.7 42.6 (4) 15.2 (7) 0.2 (19)

2. Oklahoma (3-0) 26.9 45.4 (2) 18.9 (15) 0.3 (9)

3. Georgia (3-0) 26.5 38.1 (10) 11.5 (1) -0.1 (82)

4. Ohio St. (2-1) 24.1 45.9 (1) 22.3 (39) 0.4 (5)

5. Clemson (2-1) 23.9 37.4 (14) 13.5 (4) 0.1 (52)

6. Michigan (3-0) 22.4 37.5 (13) 15.6 (8) 0.5 (2)

7. Penn St. (3-0) 21.4 36.5 (16) 15.1 (6) 0.0 (58)

8. Florida (2-1) 21.1 41.5 (5) 20.3 (27) -0.1 (92)

9. Texas A&M (3-0) 20.6 34.3 (30) 13.9 (5) 0.2 (25)

10. Wisconsin (1-1) 19.8 32.8 (39) 13.0 (3) 0.0 (62)

MeanJoe07

September 19th, 2021 at 12:33 PM ^

Don't worry boys. The pain is coming.  Our defense isn't gonna stop a competent passing attack or run game. Our offense will stagnate against big ten defenses. Harbaugh will smash us headfirst into heavy defensive fronts and Macnamara can't carry the team. 

Ghost of Fritz…

September 19th, 2021 at 2:10 PM ^

First, lets enjoy that Michigan has played excellent football for three weeks and is way ahead of any expectations.

But, you do have a point.  We really do not know anything until we see how this offense will deal with a team that (1) does stack the box (Washington never did) and (2) has the personnel to make a stacked box matter (NIU did not).  

IOW, will the play calling and personnel be able to handle stacked boxes against Wisconsin and MSU?  Will JH have a passing game able to make them pay when we can't just run at will?  Or will JH just run on 1st and 2nd down, and then face a lot of 3rd and 8 with a solid by unspectacular QB, an unproven receiver corps, and uncreative route trees?  

Eng1980

September 19th, 2021 at 5:42 PM ^

All the goodwill from the first three games goes out the window if for the whole Wisconsin game the offense stands there for 15 seconds and then runs the wrong play (as defined by just about everyone on this board).

The team is playing well because the coaches seem to executing well during the game.

Note: MSU played a bad Miami team but their play calling was good and the team executed.  Their coaches didn't screw it up. (Sorry, brother and son-in-law were at the MSU game and that forced me to watch MSU.)

MeanJoe07

September 19th, 2021 at 12:40 PM ^

I'm excited that we'll be good enough to keep it close vs. OSU. I think it will be one of those years where we lose in a spectacularly soul crushing fashion at the last second.  Maybe a bad spot, late hit, failed 2pt conversion, last second field goal.  Loss in 3 Overtimes. Something like that this year.  It's great to be back! I'll take competitive and cursed over bad and cursed any day.

M_Born M_Believer

September 19th, 2021 at 12:54 PM ^

Wow, you are just being a barrel of fun this morning......

I believe everyone knows this is early, but the hyperbola of "We have been there thousands time before (900000 is one comment in particular)" is just overboard BPONE that wont go away.

I do believe that everyone is correct in stating that we need to see it on the road against a good team.  That is where Wisconsin comes up.  Win that game and the pendulum swings the other way drastically.....

Wolvermarines

September 19th, 2021 at 12:48 PM ^

Like all analytics, and at the end of the day, the SP+ model is only as good as the data available.  We're only three games in and haven't played anyone who provides a significant challenge.

Efficiency is weighted heavily in SP+ and we have been incredibly efficient.  Many big plays and no turnovers.  The predictive success rate is heavily based on efficiency - and thats us (at the moment).  

But like others have said, we're passing the eye test...coaching looks incredibly competent, we're finishing and not making stupid mistakes.

But most importantly, I'm actually looking forward to each week with excitement and anticipation!

Ghost of Fritz…

September 19th, 2021 at 1:43 PM ^

Stop the counting!!!!   That's it.  That is the playoff bracket.  Stop the counting now!!!  Any further counting means they are robbing No. 1 Michigan!  Any further counting and the playoff is RIGGED!!!

JamieH

September 19th, 2021 at 1:59 PM ^

Look am I convinced we are a top ten team yet?

Hell no.

 

But after the disaster that was last year I am thrilled we are beating up on the front part of our schedule without breaking a sweat.

 

At this point I feel like, barring key injuries, our floor is now around 9-3.  

Ghost of Fritz…

September 19th, 2021 at 2:46 PM ^

Or...Florida actually played better than Alabama on a play-by-play basis but the randomness of a one-off game meant that a couple of plays here or there just happened to turn the game to Alabama.  If Florida is/played better than Alabama, then it was a 53/47% probability anyway...and the 47% team wins that...47% of the time....

Sambojangles

September 19th, 2021 at 2:52 PM ^

I didn't watch Bama vs Florida, but looking at the box score it looks like a pretty even game. 2 point margin, both teams even on yards per pass, and Florida was ahead on yards per rush. Looks like the first quarter interception was basically the difference. And everyone should know that interceptions and fumbles are not very predictable and more or less random, therefore deemphasized in predictive and efficiency based metrics. 

energyblue1

September 19th, 2021 at 2:52 PM ^

Bama still dominated Miami, still beat Florida on the road.  

Georgia might be #1.

Penn St has two wins against the top 25 still in Auburn and Wisconsin.

Ole Miss, Texas Tech?  Florida lost to Bama though that 2pt call was the worst I’ve seen since Borges ran the same 2pt call after the osu time out…. 

Michigan, our boys have a lot to prove still and Wisconsin is on the horizon….