Michigan #1 in SP+...with a huge caveat
Tweet speaks for itself. Bill Connelly never shares this for obv reasons, but it's still fun!
September 19th, 2021 at 12:34 PM ^
Damn. Does he read MGoBlog?
September 19th, 2021 at 12:37 PM ^
Bill has been educated on the Michigan BPONE.
September 19th, 2021 at 12:38 PM ^
Because historically some of our most successful seasons were born out of us being underdogs. I quite like it that way myself. Just like this season, I was a little skeptical but I feel alive again as a Michigan fan after watching yesterday's game. I know it was only NIU but considering how many top 10 teams have struggled against teams that, on paper, they should be beating soundly... ( ND, Clemson, being the two most notorious standouts.) I'll take underdog all day
September 19th, 2021 at 2:40 PM ^
I do not want to be an underdog. Harbaugh is 0-12 at Michigan as an underdog. Please, no underdog
September 19th, 2021 at 2:57 PM ^
To be clear, at the end of the day, I don't care if we are the overdog or underdog.. just win, dog!
September 19th, 2021 at 12:13 PM ^
I’ll wait until after we play a decently ranked team before saying “zomg we’re a juggernaut!”
September 19th, 2021 at 3:06 PM ^
This. SP+ is usually brought up toward the end of the season after Michigan loses a few games because I think it matters to some people?
September 19th, 2021 at 12:13 PM ^
Western Michigan beating Pitt and NIU beating Georgia Tech doesn’t hurt. Especially considering Georgia Tech played Clemson close. Right now it seems like Michigan can play with any team, but it remains to be seen how we do when a good defense commits to stopping the run game. We will know a lot more after Rutgers and Wisconsin.
September 19th, 2021 at 12:31 PM ^
There is something really wrong with Clemson's offense. I guess good O lines and all star QB's and RB's make a difference.
September 19th, 2021 at 3:21 PM ^
Clemson’s QB just isn’t good. He may be good at some point in his career but he’s not right now. That being said his play is a good reminder that QB recruiting is a crapshoot. Not even Dabo can get them right every time.
September 19th, 2021 at 12:28 PM ^
S&P with preseason projections included just came out. Not sure where UM is at as I don’t have insider, but assuming top 5.
September 19th, 2021 at 12:57 PM ^
We’re 6th
OSU 4
PSU 7
Wisky 10
Washington 19(!)
MSU 40
September 19th, 2021 at 12:58 PM ^
Nope, #6. Top ten is:
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Alabama (3-0)
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Oklahoma (3-0)
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Georgia (3-0)
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Ohio St. (2-1)
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Clemson (2-1)
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Michigan (3-0)
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Penn St. (3-0)
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Florida (2-1)
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Texas A&M (3-0)
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Wisconsin (1-1)
September 19th, 2021 at 2:01 PM ^
So far OSU does not look at all like a no. 4 team. And how is Oklahoma no. 2 givenhow much trouble they had with Nebraska (which was beaten soundly by terrible Illinois)? Maybe the S&P+ WITHOUT prior year data is more accurate right now....
September 19th, 2021 at 2:44 PM ^
S&P+ is designed to be more of a predictive model than it is a current resume. Are OSU and OU as bad as they’ve looked so far? Probably not, and that’s what the ranking is meant to reflect. While outperforming expectations will improve your expected future success, OU and OSU have been hurt by their performances so far. But they’re still, rightfully so, predicted to be very very good.
September 19th, 2021 at 2:58 PM ^
Sure but maybe right now using past data is less accurate than normal. 2020 COVID ball results probably not that great. And week 3 S&P+ has never been that great of a predictor anyway.
Still....MICHIGAN IS NO.1!!!!!! NO TWO WAYS ABOUT IT.
September 19th, 2021 at 3:09 PM ^
Here's the link to the article for those of you with ESPN+
And I copied the full ratings for the top 10 so you can see the magnitude of difference between each team.
TEAM RATING OFFENSE DEFENSE SPECIAL TEAMS
1. Alabama (3-0) 27.7 42.6 (4) 15.2 (7) 0.2 (19)
2. Oklahoma (3-0) 26.9 45.4 (2) 18.9 (15) 0.3 (9)
3. Georgia (3-0) 26.5 38.1 (10) 11.5 (1) -0.1 (82)
4. Ohio St. (2-1) 24.1 45.9 (1) 22.3 (39) 0.4 (5)
5. Clemson (2-1) 23.9 37.4 (14) 13.5 (4) 0.1 (52)
6. Michigan (3-0) 22.4 37.5 (13) 15.6 (8) 0.5 (2)
7. Penn St. (3-0) 21.4 36.5 (16) 15.1 (6) 0.0 (58)
8. Florida (2-1) 21.1 41.5 (5) 20.3 (27) -0.1 (92)
9. Texas A&M (3-0) 20.6 34.3 (30) 13.9 (5) 0.2 (25)
10. Wisconsin (1-1) 19.8 32.8 (39) 13.0 (3) 0.0 (62)
September 19th, 2021 at 12:33 PM ^
Don't worry boys. The pain is coming. Our defense isn't gonna stop a competent passing attack or run game. Our offense will stagnate against big ten defenses. Harbaugh will smash us headfirst into heavy defensive fronts and Macnamara can't carry the team.
September 19th, 2021 at 12:36 PM ^
I know you are being sarcastic but it sounds like some fans want in here.
September 19th, 2021 at 2:10 PM ^
First, lets enjoy that Michigan has played excellent football for three weeks and is way ahead of any expectations.
But, you do have a point. We really do not know anything until we see how this offense will deal with a team that (1) does stack the box (Washington never did) and (2) has the personnel to make a stacked box matter (NIU did not).
IOW, will the play calling and personnel be able to handle stacked boxes against Wisconsin and MSU? Will JH have a passing game able to make them pay when we can't just run at will? Or will JH just run on 1st and 2nd down, and then face a lot of 3rd and 8 with a solid by unspectacular QB, an unproven receiver corps, and uncreative route trees?
September 19th, 2021 at 5:42 PM ^
All the goodwill from the first three games goes out the window if for the whole Wisconsin game the offense stands there for 15 seconds and then runs the wrong play (as defined by just about everyone on this board).
The team is playing well because the coaches seem to executing well during the game.
Note: MSU played a bad Miami team but their play calling was good and the team executed. Their coaches didn't screw it up. (Sorry, brother and son-in-law were at the MSU game and that forced me to watch MSU.)
September 19th, 2021 at 12:33 PM ^
Rat poison.
September 19th, 2021 at 12:35 PM ^
Been a great start to the season. Thought yesterdays game where Michigan scored TD's its first 9 possessions was amazing. Beat Rutgers !
September 19th, 2021 at 12:35 PM ^
There will also be an injury to another key guy as is required by the Michigan football hating gods. My money is on Corum or Hutch.
September 19th, 2021 at 12:41 PM ^
Let us sacrifice a Koala to the Gods
September 19th, 2021 at 12:40 PM ^
I'm excited that we'll be good enough to keep it close vs. OSU. I think it will be one of those years where we lose in a spectacularly soul crushing fashion at the last second. Maybe a bad spot, late hit, failed 2pt conversion, last second field goal. Loss in 3 Overtimes. Something like that this year. It's great to be back! I'll take competitive and cursed over bad and cursed any day.
September 19th, 2021 at 12:54 PM ^
Wow, you are just being a barrel of fun this morning......
I believe everyone knows this is early, but the hyperbola of "We have been there thousands time before (900000 is one comment in particular)" is just overboard BPONE that wont go away.
I do believe that everyone is correct in stating that we need to see it on the road against a good team. That is where Wisconsin comes up. Win that game and the pendulum swings the other way drastically.....
September 19th, 2021 at 1:21 PM ^
All things come to an end, including curses.
September 19th, 2021 at 2:30 PM ^
Some take a while (1840, 1860, 1880, 1900, 1920, 1940, 1960 but finally broken in 1980).
September 19th, 2021 at 12:48 PM ^
Like all analytics, and at the end of the day, the SP+ model is only as good as the data available. We're only three games in and haven't played anyone who provides a significant challenge.
Efficiency is weighted heavily in SP+ and we have been incredibly efficient. Many big plays and no turnovers. The predictive success rate is heavily based on efficiency - and thats us (at the moment).
But like others have said, we're passing the eye test...coaching looks incredibly competent, we're finishing and not making stupid mistakes.
But most importantly, I'm actually looking forward to each week with excitement and anticipation!
September 19th, 2021 at 1:00 PM ^
I can’t wait to see the line for the Rutgers game. I am the furthest thing from a handicapper but Michigan -10 maybe?
September 19th, 2021 at 1:28 PM ^
-16 my guess
September 19th, 2021 at 2:41 PM ^
Michigan's rating in the actual SP+ is 22.4, Rutgers is 1.8. The spread is the difference, so Michigan should be favored by 20.6, plus 2.5 for home field, so about 23.
September 19th, 2021 at 6:32 PM ^
But that’s according to SP+. Vegas often differs, sometimes by a lot. I bet it will be under 20
September 19th, 2021 at 1:02 PM ^
So far, so good. But 'so far' isn't very far into the season. So there's that.
September 19th, 2021 at 1:29 PM ^
Cue the muppets, we did it!
September 19th, 2021 at 1:43 PM ^
Stop the counting!!!! That's it. That is the playoff bracket. Stop the counting now!!! Any further counting means they are robbing No. 1 Michigan! Any further counting and the playoff is RIGGED!!!
September 19th, 2021 at 1:59 PM ^
Look am I convinced we are a top ten team yet?
Hell no.
But after the disaster that was last year I am thrilled we are beating up on the front part of our schedule without breaking a sweat.
At this point I feel like, barring key injuries, our floor is now around 9-3.
September 19th, 2021 at 2:00 PM ^
I'll take and run. We're #1!
September 19th, 2021 at 2:01 PM ^
I’m not an anti data guy, but when your data has a team at #5 who just lost at home to a team ranked below it, the data is trash.
September 19th, 2021 at 2:33 PM ^
That’s why preseason projections are still part of the actual data. Early season data based strictly on the season so far is going to be unreliable and inconsistent.
September 19th, 2021 at 2:39 PM ^
I don’t think that’s the right way to think about it
September 19th, 2021 at 2:46 PM ^
Or...Florida actually played better than Alabama on a play-by-play basis but the randomness of a one-off game meant that a couple of plays here or there just happened to turn the game to Alabama. If Florida is/played better than Alabama, then it was a 53/47% probability anyway...and the 47% team wins that...47% of the time....
September 19th, 2021 at 2:52 PM ^
I didn't watch Bama vs Florida, but looking at the box score it looks like a pretty even game. 2 point margin, both teams even on yards per pass, and Florida was ahead on yards per rush. Looks like the first quarter interception was basically the difference. And everyone should know that interceptions and fumbles are not very predictable and more or less random, therefore deemphasized in predictive and efficiency based metrics.
September 19th, 2021 at 2:52 PM ^
Bama still dominated Miami, still beat Florida on the road.
Georgia might be #1.
Penn St has two wins against the top 25 still in Auburn and Wisconsin.
Ole Miss, Texas Tech? Florida lost to Bama though that 2pt call was the worst I’ve seen since Borges ran the same 2pt call after the osu time out….
Michigan, our boys have a lot to prove still and Wisconsin is on the horizon….
September 19th, 2021 at 4:16 PM ^
Alabama not even in the top 5?
No wonder he hides it.
September 19th, 2021 at 4:20 PM ^
Can someone explain what this actually means?
I realize the basics, without preseason projections...this would be the top 5 right now. But why?