Kirby Hocutt Refuses to Say Washington is in Ahead of Michigan
Sorry if this was covered in the noon-games thread, but Kirby Hocutt was interviewed on GameDay this morning, and he refused to say that Washington is in ahead of us. He was given every opportunity to, but he refused to say they're in and we're out. Sure seems like he's keeping the door open.
I'm not holding out hope if VaTech doesn't win, but it seems like we have better odds than Jim Carrey did in "Dumb and Dumber."
Story is here.
The money quote: “I can’t speculate because I’d be trying to guess what 11 other members think about (Washington),” Hocutt said. "Small margin of separation between Nos. 4 and No. 5. Great performance by the Washington Huskies. Late tonight, we’ll continue our discussions and have everybody’s body of work in front of us."
December 3rd, 2016 at 4:05 PM ^
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December 3rd, 2016 at 4:12 PM ^
Not so sure. We bombed Colorado as well after Lufao got injured. Don't forget that after Colorado took a 21-7 lead we outscored them 38-7 to finish the game. Our win over them was just as dominant as Washington's.
December 3rd, 2016 at 3:51 PM ^
John U. Bacon was putting forth this very same possibilty yesterday on WTKA. His theory is that the CFP committee REALLY, REALLY wants Michigan in, and they're going to do everything possible to make that happen.
Yes, they have one fewer loss and a conference championship. They also played zero bowl teams in the non-conference, while we played three bowl teams in the non-conference.
Kill the messenger here, but Hocutt is leaving the door open a crack. If they want us in, they can justify it.
December 3rd, 2016 at 4:08 PM ^
It's an interesting argument. I don't know if I'd FEEL right about getting in ahead of Washington at this point, but I sure as hell could learn to accept it.
December 3rd, 2016 at 4:43 PM ^
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December 3rd, 2016 at 6:50 PM ^
That theory doesn't make any sense. If the committee wanted us in in over UW, then the committee surely would have had us at 4 this week and UW at 5. All of the stated reasons for choosing us were available for consideration last week and we were still ranked behind them. They can't rank UW higher, have them win a conference championship in a blowout (by a larger margin on neutral field than our home win over CO) and then have us pass them while we're idle. They'd be heavily criticized for how stupid that looks. If they were hellbent on having M in we would have been 4 this week. It's over.
December 3rd, 2016 at 3:51 PM ^
I don't think those words mean what you think they mean.
December 3rd, 2016 at 4:03 PM ^
go vtech
December 3rd, 2016 at 4:05 PM ^
I hope a miracle happens and we get in.
If not it's Florida State for us and the Orange Bowl.
I think we should decline the invite and just take the entire team to each playoff game and taunt bama!!!!!
:-) go blue happy holidays family!
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December 3rd, 2016 at 4:15 PM ^
Move on already, people.
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December 3rd, 2016 at 5:28 PM ^
Now, I don't mean to make any statement that Michigan is a poor team. They are a great football team that was 4 points or a couple first downs away from being undefeated. That's football though, you don't get many second chances. Unless VT wins, Michigan won't get a second chance.
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December 3rd, 2016 at 4:22 PM ^
The committee sent a strong message two years ago to TCU and Baylor about how it feels about weak non-conference schedules and Washington epitomizes that point this year. If the committee wants to stay consistent in that message and their "encouragement" for P5 teams to schedule stronger opponents... as in no FCS opponents, then they will punish Washington by leaving them out of the playoff. Oh, and Michigan is in!
December 3rd, 2016 at 4:24 PM ^
UW has a better record, won a conference title, and beat Colorado by a larger margin on a neutral field.
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December 3rd, 2016 at 4:33 PM ^
Disagree for the reasons stated and I don't think winning a percieved weak P12 will carry any weight over Michigan's stronger B10 schedule and Top 25 wins. Respect your opinion, we'll find out tomorrow.
December 3rd, 2016 at 4:39 PM ^
You are chasing ghosts. It's over.
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December 3rd, 2016 at 4:48 PM ^
I said I respect your opinion, no need to keep pushing your point or try to debunk mine. We have two different opinions, we'll find out tomorrow who was right and that will be that. Move on.
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December 3rd, 2016 at 4:42 PM ^
I don't think the H2H margins with Colorado matter, but them winning their conference with 1 less loss does. And UW has basically beaten the doors off people save for USC. They played in a weaker conference, but it's not like they played a G5 schedule. The Pac 12 is probably the 3rd/4th best conference in the country.
December 3rd, 2016 at 4:43 PM ^
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December 3rd, 2016 at 4:54 PM ^
The only chance we had was if Colorado and Penn State won. Everyone would have had two losses and we beat both teams by a big margin. Washington winning big has officially closed the door.
PS-There's zero chance of Clemson losing tonight...
December 3rd, 2016 at 4:24 PM ^
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Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
December 3rd, 2016 at 5:38 PM ^
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December 3rd, 2016 at 4:29 PM ^
then beat the #8 team like a drum and drop below someone who didn't play. They are ahead of us. Clemson loses and we can talk but that's less likely than the odds Colorado had
December 3rd, 2016 at 5:40 PM ^
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Has overated D
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I'm happy with the orange bowl based on how we looked at some points during the season.
If a miracle happens and we get in then that's just icing on the cake.
December 3rd, 2016 at 4:40 PM ^
Washington is in above UM, and at this point it would take Clemson losing and both PSU and Wiscy to look terrible (and for PSU to win) for UM to get a bump, and even then it's probably not happening.
I'm okay with all that. Had UM not lose to Iowa, then this discussion has some merit and you could say that UM's one loss is better than anyone else's and all that. But UM lost twice, and for as bad and inexplicable those loses are, they happened. I'm fine with the Orange bowl, hopefully a good win, and 2017.