Josh Gattis Accused of Being A Freak (again)
https://www.baltimoresun.com/2023/12/20/maryland-football-josh-gattis-police-investigation/
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Here is the headline:
Woman says Maryland assistant football coach exposed himself when he was with Miami. He took a polygraph denying it.
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Basically, a custodian at Miami said that he called her into a bathroom while he was stroking it...he denies it, passed a polygraph, polygraphs are usually inadmissible in Florida because they're unreliable.
#FreakInSpace
December 21st, 2023 at 8:40 PM ^
I bet Josh Gattis wrote the stick figure "LAO" on everything as a kid.
- L
- A
- O
December 21st, 2023 at 9:28 PM ^
That's why I come to MGoBlog, for these classical references.
December 21st, 2023 at 8:41 PM ^
See Mel, this is how it's done. Deny deny deny.
December 22nd, 2023 at 8:52 AM ^
But...but...it was consensual stroking.
December 21st, 2023 at 8:46 PM ^
He gave Patterson a hard but clearly he's the one working on his short game
December 21st, 2023 at 10:30 PM ^
> gave Patterson a hard
seriously bro???
December 21st, 2023 at 8:46 PM ^
Unreliable is an understatement. It’s pseudo-science.
December 21st, 2023 at 8:54 PM ^
It's completely nuts and has been for years. What's the deal? Too many people with too many hours in front of the TV?
December 21st, 2023 at 10:22 PM ^
Even DA's will request them, so no, it's not just TV, it's real-life.
December 22nd, 2023 at 10:15 AM ^
It’s a win-win for the DA. There’s 3 possible outcomes:
“Defendant failed polygraph”
“Defendant refused polygraph”
“Defendant’s polygraph was inconclusive”
December 22nd, 2023 at 12:56 AM ^
Speaking of nuts I guess he walked up to her completely covered in plastic wrap and nothin else.
He asked "Do you think im a freak?"
She replied "I can clearly see you're nuts!"
Allegedly
December 22nd, 2023 at 5:43 AM ^
Your or you're
🤣
December 22nd, 2023 at 10:34 AM ^
and/or.
December 22nd, 2023 at 1:02 AM ^
Maybe so, but he did voluntarily take one. Pretty bold move even if you didn’t do it. Can’t imagine any of our MGoattorneys would recommend a client do this.
December 22nd, 2023 at 7:50 AM ^
Even calling it pseudo-science is charitable. I once had a conversation with an officer whose job included administering polygraphs for the state police where I lived. He flat out told me that he could administer the test in a way that gets whatever result he wants, and that he reads the file, decides if the test subject is guilty or not, then administers the test accordingly.
December 22nd, 2023 at 8:31 AM ^
Calling it pseudo-science gives it more scientific credit than it deserves.
December 22nd, 2023 at 9:18 AM ^
I take one every 5 years for the USG. It's a total joke. It's just a cop sitting behind a computer, telling you that the machine is infallible and that it says you're lying, and trying to pressure you with a Vaudeville cop routine. I made the mistake, on my very first time, of admitting that I shoplifted some baseball cards when I was 13, and the guy spent the next 3 hours grilling me about the "major financial crimes" the machine was "pinging" on that I wasn't admitting to. I have never admitted anything since, and always gotten by. It's even more of a joke than I expected when I went in.
December 21st, 2023 at 8:50 PM ^
#Speed(strokes)InSpace
December 22nd, 2023 at 1:38 AM ^
#PenisInFace
December 21st, 2023 at 8:54 PM ^
#StrokesInSpace
#SexualDeviantsInSpace
#GushingGattis
December 22nd, 2023 at 12:58 AM ^
Gosh Gyattis!
December 22nd, 2023 at 10:10 AM ^
#SpanksInSpace
December 21st, 2023 at 8:55 PM ^
If only he didn't text all the players negativity on his way out
December 21st, 2023 at 8:58 PM ^
(Waves hand)
This isn’t the jacker you’re looking for.
December 21st, 2023 at 9:13 PM ^
Gattis to his bosses
December 21st, 2023 at 9:21 PM ^
I wonder if there is anyone comparable that crashed and burned as harm and as fast as he did. Went from an award winning assistant coach to being fired as OC one year later to flashing people one year after that.
December 21st, 2023 at 9:29 PM ^
And somewhere in the middle there allegedly sleeping with a recruit’s mom.
December 22nd, 2023 at 12:59 AM ^
Does the phrase Tugg cumin ring a bell?
December 21st, 2023 at 9:33 PM ^
Josh Genitals.
December 21st, 2023 at 10:24 PM ^
Josh Fappis
December 22nd, 2023 at 9:47 AM ^
Josh Grabsit
December 21st, 2023 at 9:49 PM ^
It’s just his new stroke and shoot offense.
December 21st, 2023 at 10:02 PM ^
Spooge in Space
December 22nd, 2023 at 7:25 AM ^
Seed in space
December 22nd, 2023 at 9:48 AM ^
When he’s on cruitin’ trail, space becomes face.
December 21st, 2023 at 9:51 PM ^
Josh Gattis? More like Josh Gettin-this.
I don’t know, it’s late and my adhd meds are wearing off. I’ll try harder tomorrow, I promise.
December 21st, 2023 at 9:59 PM ^
That's what HE said!
December 21st, 2023 at 10:02 PM ^
Polygraph’s are never admissible. (At least in most criminal courts, I don’t know about crazy places) Unless agreed upon by lawyers. But what you say in a polygraph can be used against you. Mostly they are unreliable because of false lying. (Pseudo science “experts” trying to find a result that fits the narrative they want, usually police driven).
They are used as an excuse to get you to talk, and say something that can be spun. The worry is not about false truth but false lie (that’s why it’s junk).
Which means don’t take it any kinda way. (But as a criminal defense lawyer, a pass is way more important than a fail, even if it’s unreliable).
December 21st, 2023 at 10:27 PM ^
(But as a criminal defense lawyer, a pass is way more important than a fail, even if it’s unreliable).
I know someone personally who had a ridiculous accusation made and a report had been filed against them. The lawyer recommended a polygraph test, which was passed. Lawyer said sometimes the DA will request the accused take one, administered of course by the state, in which case that falls in line with your statement. When the test is administered by the state, it can only hurt you, not help. In this case the defense had this person do it to simply add to the strength of their side of the case (accusation was so flimsy the detective declined to do an interview, which is rare).
December 21st, 2023 at 10:45 PM ^
You really need a guarantee from a prosecutor on how and why it will get used. Like we will take it as certain if you pass and never prosecute. Usually before a defense lawyer is involved.
They know it’s not reliable, they want you to take one, and fail, and try to talk your way out, and what you say then is now admissible against you.
thats the cynical take. But a pass is good., (sometimes you can get a deal where you pass and they will drop everything). Tough call with junk science.
Its fun to make fun, i just think its icky. And kind of flies in the face of our board outrage about the things reported the last couple months that hurt our feelings.
December 22nd, 2023 at 3:49 AM ^
I know two polygraph examiners and they both swear by the machine. Both say that getting certified was one of the most difficult classes they have ever taken. They both say that it may not be admissible, but they can tell if someone is lying or not.
December 22nd, 2023 at 8:35 AM ^
Yep... just like lots of other unscientific garbage that is coin-flip accuracy, practitioners always believe they have some golden skill. They're wrong.
See also: drug dogs are wrong 66% of the time.
December 22nd, 2023 at 9:47 PM ^
I have no doubt it’s hard. But it’s interpretation and not scientifically repeatable. It’s not nothing, but it’s not solid enough to be reliable. And courts are historically stupid on that stuff and most everyone has said, “nope.”
and they can be useful, I guess I was saying get an independent examiner and not one employed by the state, and still don’t take a news headline about a test one way or the other.
December 21st, 2023 at 10:03 PM ^
A clear violation of the sportsmanship policy right there.
December 21st, 2023 at 10:06 PM ^
I didn't do it!
December 22nd, 2023 at 1:02 AM ^
...in private
December 21st, 2023 at 10:15 PM ^
So what sort of a penalty will the NCAA impose on Michigan for this?
December 21st, 2023 at 10:19 PM ^
Castration
December 21st, 2023 at 10:20 PM ^
They're going to force us to make him Co-OC again.
December 21st, 2023 at 10:24 PM ^
Polygraphy is in the same sphere as astrology.