Gree4

November 10th, 2022 at 2:07 PM ^

Pretty cool

Ive said it before and I will say it again. Jay Harbaugh will be a great HC someday. He's likeable, creative, and seems to excel with whatever group he is coaching at the time. 

 

chrisu

November 10th, 2022 at 2:19 PM ^

Interesting background on the formation. Makes it all the better to imagine a son telling his dad about what he saw at a game and thinks they should try it, and they get a score from it. Cool, cool stuff.

Amazinblu

November 10th, 2022 at 3:43 PM ^

I recall an infraction called against Michigan several years ago.  So, what was the infraction?   "Intent to deceive.   Yes, Michigan received a five or ten yard penalty, when they were on offense.

This call was interesting to me.  Isn't the objective of the game - and a team's scheme, to deceive the opponent?

TruBluMich

November 10th, 2022 at 7:39 PM ^

The penalty was for Jake Butt simulating a substitution. It's covered here. While I was looking for the rule. I found out they used Jake Butt's number, and exactly what happened, in the NCAA rule book to further explain this rule. 

https://rulebook.github.io/en/interpretations/rules/9/#unfair-tactics-article-2

After the down is over, Team A sends in three substitutes, and three players begin to leave the field. A88, who participated in the previous play, trails the three replaced players toward the Team A sideline. The three replaced players continue into the team area, but A88 stops and sets up on the line of scrimmage very close to the sideline. After the ball is snapped A88 runs down the sideline and catches a forward pass. RULING: Team A at the snap, unsportsmanlike conduct for unfair tactics: using the substitution process to deceive the opponents. Live-ball foul. Penalty: 15 yards at the previous spot.

stephenrjking

November 10th, 2022 at 8:14 PM ^

This is great. Wish it stayed on the front page longer.

Tons of insight here:

  • The variety of sources plays come from. Particularly early in the Harbaugh era. Jay picked this up from a HS. Of course, lots of coaches get this.
  • The route combos. One side is a man-beater, the other side is a zone-beater. That's pretty normal, and definitely a normal Harbaugh practice. Part of why pre-snap reads tend to focus the QB on one side of the formation--the plays are pre-designed to attack multiple potential defenses.
  • The way they design a zone-beating concept, with receivers assigned a certain spot to arrive at.
  • Even a bit of insight into how Jake runs the route

This is really, really cool. 

MGoOhNo

November 10th, 2022 at 9:40 PM ^

I hate urban Meyer, but he was on big ten today or whatever the other day and was explaining that when he couldn’t figure out what the opposing D was doing they ran 3-level routes to one side of the field that worked equally well against man and zone and I was thinking…simple, effective, maybe, we’re making it too hard for our O at times.