It's about the way you win.

Submitted by Geaux_Blue on
I have been outspoken about having zero expectations this game in a season that has already exceeded them. The fact there will be zero focus or attention on the WAY that State won this game is a disappointment to the sport. I'd love for the comments to include the number of personal fouls and taunting carried out by a team who for all intents should have expected to win should be an embarrassment to their base. Instead it will be a Wallpaper.

I didn't mind losing. I minded losing to a team who carried itself this way while no one cared.

Mannix

October 15th, 2011 at 3:55 PM ^

But, as you noted, the butt kicking.

No hot routes on all the blitzing. Teams shouldn't be able to that all game and Sparty has done it their last two games without penalty. Teams have to make blitzing teams pay and that was disappointing to see no adjustments AND going empty at the end, which just screams, "Blitz me!"

hajiblue72

October 15th, 2011 at 4:23 PM ^

Not sure Denard has the ability to recognize the blitz or the authority to audible. Until they figure out a way to handle that we are going nowhere.
<br>And why wouldn't you screen more against it? Did not like the playcalling.

M-jed

October 15th, 2011 at 4:29 PM ^

the TAINT was a hot read by Denard missed by Smith, but yeah, UM didn't address the blitz (understatement of the year award). I think if MSU tries this next week we'll see a proper response by Wisconsin, though.

Medic

October 15th, 2011 at 5:18 PM ^

We obviously need this in the face of what will now be the standard type of defensive scheme we face the rest of the year with blitzes out of the ass. Denard had 3 guys wide fucking open on that pick six to choose from he just went to the wrong side.

Sadly, Denard had open guys ALL day, ALL over the field and just never saw them or overthrew them by 5 yards.

RyanRampage1

October 15th, 2011 at 3:39 PM ^

i asked my sparty friends a  minute ago in a text if they felt good about winning with no intregredy and a player who threw a punch and should have been kicked out and i got "yes i do :)" back. gotta love sparty

 

MGoBrewMom

October 15th, 2011 at 3:45 PM ^

I never was comfortable with the term "little bro" and cringed when I heard it..but that behavior, and the Sparty coaches acceptance of it, is exactly why it is absolutely the right term for them. That was punk. If they could behave with one ounce of class, when they kick our ass, our when they lose, they wouldn't be called little brother.

MGoStrength

October 15th, 2011 at 3:39 PM ^

Did you notice we all ran off the field to the tunnel and didn't shake anyone's hand on Sparty?  Gholston is lame...multiple cheap shots including a punch thrown.  Multiple late hits on D-Rob, one that took him out of the game.  Taunting that was never called on the pick 6.  I hope we remember this and I hope Hoke calls them out.  Can't get disrespected much more than that.

Cope

October 15th, 2011 at 3:40 PM ^

Dantonio shouldve sent Gholsten to the locker room after punching Lewan. That after twisting Denard's facemask late. This a dirty program that should feel the shame, not us for losing. That's the time you're looking for refs to throw out a player.

bluebyyou

October 15th, 2011 at 3:47 PM ^

Teams take on the character of their coaches.  There is virtually nothing I like about Dantonio.  Brady suspends players, Dantonio has them rejoin the team on the way back from jail.  As for Gholston, I suspect the B1G may have a thing to say about his cheap shots.

yeahrice

October 15th, 2011 at 3:40 PM ^

Well I mean its not like MSU has beat UM recently. Oh wait... Can you at least pretend you've been there before Sparty? I guess Lil Bro will never learn how to win with class.

kevin holt

October 15th, 2011 at 3:40 PM ^

I guarantee there will be wallpapers of the punch and the TD taunting. I'm very angry at this game for the lack of sportsmanship and for several other reasons.

Taunting into the endzone: new rule, probably isn't a great rule, but still should be called. Gholston punches a guy and doesn't get ejected, Dantonio doesn't blink putting him back in, he creates two good defensive plays that kill us (stay classy). Denard goes down hurt and the stadium erupts (stay classier). Plenty of roughing the passer calls that look brutal, and unnecessary roughness penalties.

Sidenote: fucking refs, I know we got a lot of generosity but they missed a lot of shit that could have swung the game. Case in point: backwards pass ruled incomplete (that our guys should have jumped on), later in the drive they get a TD, that could be the difference between 21-7 and 14-14. I know, excuses, but fucking shit.

Franc-O

October 15th, 2011 at 3:41 PM ^

We lost this game, fair and square no blaming refs etc. I'll admit that to the start of the game next year. BUT what went on on that field today was DISGUSTING in terms of sportsmanship and integrity. A disgrace to this rivalry and to this conference. Dantonio Gholston and the any other cheap shot artist wearing the green and bronze were classless today.

tdcarl

October 15th, 2011 at 3:41 PM ^

After the game I thought, "You know what, if we lost like this to Iowa I wouldn't even care." But the way that MSU played like asshat thugs makes it hurt so much more.

snowcrash

October 15th, 2011 at 3:54 PM ^

If Iowa had played as thuggishly as MSU I would have been just as upset. If MSU had played like adults and beaten us I would not have been that upset. Of course, Iowa doesn't do things like that because they aren't coached by a sociopath.

M-jed

October 15th, 2011 at 3:41 PM ^

Did you guys see Gholston run down Hoke and try to shake his hand at the end? ESPN switched away right at he got to Hoke, not sure what happened.

You said it, Geaux. This is what makes me sick.

Mitch Again

October 15th, 2011 at 3:42 PM ^

anyone is the reason we lost. Our inability to accept the loss is why we cry foul about State's character issues. Had we won, there is no mentioning State's dirty play.

da3mite

October 15th, 2011 at 4:11 PM ^

People were speaking of the dirty plays well before Sparty took control and eventually won the game. Nobody here is saying that we lost because of the dirty play and nobody here is saying that we deserved to win. I know I still would be talking about it, win or not. Sparty played dirty and with no class, plain and simple. I would be embarrassed to be a MSU fan today, despite the win. 

Farnn

October 15th, 2011 at 3:43 PM ^

I care less about Gholston, I'm sure Lewan did something rough to instigate it. Lewan can be hot headed to. It's the LB bodyslamming Denard after he had gotten rid of the ball. And I forgot about the facemask twist, that was definitely dirty.

bronxblue

October 15th, 2011 at 3:45 PM ^

I'm not going to do that whole "at least we played with class" arguments.  MSU won that game by dominating on defense; it happens.  The fact they were asshats doing it should not be surprising, but had little to do with the outcome beyond that fact Gholston probably should have been sitting after that punch.  This MSU team is losing a lot of talent after this year on both sides of the ball, and UM should be better at home.  It was a loss, but not the horrible losses we saw earlier.  I'm not freaking out about the offense yet, and the defense still looked good out there.  Bring on the Boilermakers.

bronxblue

October 15th, 2011 at 4:27 PM ^

Considering the past couple of years MSU has recorded at least 450 yards of total offense against what is basically this same defense, giving up a little over 300 and forcing two TOs seems like a win to me.  Yes, MSU ran the ball effectively at times, but UM also forced them to punt on a number of occassions and kept UM in the game.  At no point was MSU able to impose its dominance over UM, and that is a win to me. 

08mms

October 15th, 2011 at 5:29 PM ^

We kind of expected that though, young linebackers, ect. Our offense was supposed to carry us over that weakness and either the rind messed with drobs deeper game, he finally had one of those rough starts that he didn't settle out of before getting hurt, or that injury is worse than we were led to believe.
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polometer

October 15th, 2011 at 3:59 PM ^

the offense now.  All season Borges has been talking about how he is so excited that with a player of Denard's talent, the playbook is opened up. However, when MSU blitzed and didn't give time for plays to develop, the team had no plan.  Michigan could not run simple screens, get a push up the middle, or even hit open receivers. (Basics!)  It's not just about play calling, it's also about getting your players prepared for when things don't go as planned.  Michigan (coaches and players) had no composure.

 

On a plus note: with the weather, the fouls, and the lack of success--I was impressed Denard didn't have more picks.  That is moving in the right direction.

snowcrash

October 15th, 2011 at 3:46 PM ^

Gholston and Rush are thugs who will probably both be in prison within 5 years. Dantonio is no better than they are if he doesn't suspend them. Lewis is also a no-class scumbag. MSU has shown over and over again that they are no-class punk program, but today was a new low. Such a shame that such a collection of nihilistic thugs led by such a sociopath has any success at all. I hate them far more than I could ever hate OSU, because at least OSU repsects the game. MSU doesn't respect anything.

To hell with MSU, forever. 

MGoneBlue

October 15th, 2011 at 3:47 PM ^

Right now, I'm glad that we have one of the classiest quarterbacks in the country.  I'm glad that our DEs don't punch people in the face, or try to twist someone's head off.  I'm glad that we finish plays, and don't dare the NCAA to call us out on dirty play.  I'm glad that, when our guys score a touchdown, the hand the ball off to the ref, celebrate with their teammates, and get off the field.  I'm proud that, win, lose, or draw, our guys are true Michigan Men setting a good example; a beacon of goodness in a sea of win-at-all costs.

Right now, I'd rather be 0-6 than win a single game the way State did.  I'd rather Minnesota outscore us 73-0 than watch anything like the crap Gholston did.  I'd rather our players honor our university, than force us to make excuses for them. 

Go Blue.

bronxblue

October 15th, 2011 at 3:49 PM ^

And to be fair, UM lost this game when they tried to pass on 4th and 6 inches.  It should have been reviewed on the pass, but it was also a horrible play call considering Denard falling forward was enough. 

Michichick

October 15th, 2011 at 3:50 PM ^

Michigan State played better, but Michigan proved they are better than those dirty, classless thugs. And you're right, no one will do a thing about it. Especially Dantonio, the head thug.

uminks

October 15th, 2011 at 3:50 PM ^

I thought we had numerous chances to score points and potentially win the game. DROB just was not sharp passing this game. Hoke should have thrown his red flag, our reciever caught the ball past the first down marker and his forward progress would have made it first and goal. It was just an awful play on 4th and 1. May have cost us the game with momentum.  I'm sure we will get them back next year in the big house. They're a diry team know doubt about it, just like their coach, no class.  I just hope WI rips them a new one!

I see us having several more wins this season. I don't think we will see a collapse like in the past!