I guess winning does cure all.

Thanks for weighing in.

I'm not worried about how we recruit or who we recruit. Trust in Harbaugh. I like their approach to recruiting. Yes winning does help, but so does the brand and Michigan is finally getting out from under the rock that it was buried under for almost a decade.

Go to bed.

Beat bye.

Not being able to post a picture is one thing, but not knowing how to use then/than is far worse.

I am a fortunate son. My first season as a UM fan was 1969. We had a new coach. Perhapd you heard of him. If one were to believe the hype, no one would ever beat OSU. Reigning NCs and '69 was supposed to be better than '68. Well you know the story.

Times were so different, but in retrospect they are not that different. Every fan knows Brady gave Jim a lot to work with, especially defensively because it's largely instinct. But the OL was highly recruited as well. Thank goodness they rec'd two seasons of outstanding coaching and those that might have been overlooked will have a chance at the next level. That's the parallel - to a degree.- UM and OSU still brought in all the talent; Bump just had a problem using it.

After Bo got a hold of them, that group produced more AAs than any other five year period in Michigan history. Bump got one great season and a Rose Bowl win out of them. We all know what Bo did. That's the coaching difference.

At the risk of blasphemy, J.H is taking it up a notch. We were w/o social media so I don't know what Bo was up to regarding recruiting. Perhaps its the Michigan arrogance in me, but I think when it gets close in terms of personnel, I think Harbaugh will win out. He's got a Plan A, Plan B and C. He's tireless. Doubters? Ask Pete. This Harbaugh guy is good at coaching this game.

Who the hell is complaining about Michigan after yesterday? OSU is doing better than us? How?. 78-0. I guess recruiting could be something to complain about, but given how well our young players are playing right now, I can't see why anyone would actually feel like we're at a disadvantage. Chris Evans, Devin Asiasi, Eddie McDoom, Rashan Gary, and Ben Bredeson have all played meaningful snaps this year. That's saying a lot, because in many cases we have depth at those positions and these kids are rising to the top. Obviously most other true freshmen have been in games as well. We're undefeated, the #4 team in the country, and we have a clear path to being that way when we play OSU in November. We will settle the question of who is better then. Until then, people need to enjoy where we are and stop worrying so much.

Right lick? What if I wanna left lick it?

For the sake of being That Guy, we technically haven't really... won... yet.

No Baron Browning? No Najee Harris?

And these are the guys we supposedly lead for. There are a bunch of dudes that we have a great shot at or at least a decent chance with, which includes probably another five five stars and other top 100 kids. I have no idea how Harbaugh is going to make this class work in the end (could get a little semi-controversial like last year), but the 2017 class is going to have a wild finish either way.

you win some, you lose some

Sure, I'd love to have nothing but 5-stars and be the consensus #1 class every year, but that isn't realistic.  I haven't seen anyone on the board who is really UPSET and CONCERNED with Harbaugh's recruiting.  He's doing a great job, I firmly believe doing it the right way, and you know he'll get the most out of the guys he gets.

BTW, the whole "Right way" thing is another reason why I doubt we'll ever be #1 in recruiting.  There will always be a subset of guys who go to the highest bidder, and we won't get those kids.

I think we experienced the same thing in Hoke's first few years, but then his recruiting and on field success diminished.  I'm not saying I expect Harbaugh's trajectory to be what Hoke's was, but I do think we 1) beating OSU in Columbus isn't gonna be easy, 2) we take a step back next year in terms of W/L record, and 3) it's not NSD yet.  That being said, I think after a short, and less dramatic "down year" in 2017, Harbaugh returns strong with his real team of his own recruits.  The question is, will those teams beat OSU?

 

Admittidly as a UM fan some of my expectations around ever beating that team have been pummelled into submission by the last 15 years.  That has led me to more of a "I'll believe we'll beat them when I see it" type of attitude.  Winning does help everything, but OSU is a juggernaut and never stops winning or recruiting.  They have had a pretty impressive run the past 20-30 years.  So yes, winning does help, being new also helps (new coach, new Nike gear, etc), but we still have to beat OSU and only time will tell.

I have noticed a shift in the size of OLine recruiting..In recent years we seemed to take the 285 lb recruits who needed to build up to size..Now we seem to be in on several 315+ kids who have true road grader potential..With tall WRs on the outside the name of Harbaughs game looks to be forcing defenses to stack the box due to a huge OLine wth big RBs and then get 1on1 coverage with tall WRs...sounds fun

Winning helps, but winning with EUTM is the real key.

Who's got it better than us?

 

 

The only real concern with our recruiting right now IMO is the defensive tackle position. The coaches have done a good job identifying talent and getting those players to seriously consider M, but we've just had some bad luck. Jordan Elliott bailing on us last season hurt, and then of course Aubrey Solomon decommitted. Boss Tagaloa would have been nice but that was always a longshot. We really need to either pull Tufele from out west, get Solomon back, or both--otherwise we might have to settle for a plan B guy or two at probably the most important position on the defense.

The thought of Brandon Peters or Dylan McCaffrey dropping back behind Isaiah Wilson, Tedarrell Slaton, Cesar Ruiz, Kai-Leon Herbert, JaRaymond Hall, Ben Bredenson, and Michael Onwenu, and throwing to DPJ, Nico Collins, and Devin Asiasi is legitimately terrifying.

There is no school in the country that stacks up to that kind of offensive talent, and we have maybe the best offensive coaching staff in the country to guide it.

Only slightly in jest, but this class seems to be forming soooooooo slowly. Far more decommits than commits the last month or so - and most of our top guys are uncommitted. We have 12-14 new commits expected by NSD and it seems like many will stretch until that day. The recruits and JH don't care - just noting the anxiety to finalize the class with some of these elite guys.