LSAClassOf2000

November 17th, 2021 at 1:48 PM ^

I get that people dine generously from the table of tangible goals, which I think is why some people feel compelled to provide them. At the end of the day, the goal for a football coach - or really anyone who is in charge of a sports team - is to win as many games as possible with the talent they have, and then to improve that talent as much as possible to win perhaps more. Basically, to do as much as they can with as much as they can get. It seems like anything else is just someone saying something, even if they can easily pull of that something, and indeed, woe to the person who says something that turns out to be farcical in retrospect. 

Eng1980

November 17th, 2021 at 1:49 PM ^

I believe Greg Harden would agree with Coach Campbell.  

Your goals have to be within your CONTROL.  Control the controllables.

Iowa State's FEI rating is at #11.  Campbell is a good coach that should move up somewhere.

If you were to list 10 goals, then maybe winning the championship is number 10 but number 9 is probably stay healthy and injury free by choosing to eat right and work out right on a daily basis.

You don't control the other team's talent and luck so don't pretend that you do and set goals that indicate you control the other side of life.

One of the biggest mistake people make is to blame themselves for things beyond their control and not taking responsibility for the actions they do control.

I always tell my team that we probably aren't going to beat the Detroit Tigers if they show up to play us so the goal is always to play well.  (My 9-year olds are not afraid to play anyone.)

Golden section

November 17th, 2021 at 1:58 PM ^

It's just coach speak. Almost every coach uses it, except maybe Mike Leach and Bret Bielema. Even Saban says, "Trust the process.  Relinquish your attachment to outcomes and focus your energy on the present moment."

Franklin says, "We're 0-0"  After a loss and 'We're 1-0' after a win.

Meyer say's  "The best version of us is pretty good. The bad version of us is really bad. We have to get to the point where we're the best version all of the time."

What is Campbell supposed to say? " We suck and fell well short of our goal. We have nothing to play for and don't expect to show up for the rest of the year."

JamieH

November 17th, 2021 at 2:01 PM ^

Most coach speak is stupid.

That being said, what Campbell said was stupider than usual coach speak.

I think the problem is setting goals that, once they are not obtainable, they can cause guys to quit.  If it's "conference championship or bust" and then you lose 2 games, well what are you playing for?

But claiming that winning a title was never one of your goals is stupid.

I think it is fine for the team to have multiple goals.  And it is OK to NOT obtain a goal.  There is nothing wrong in saying "Yes one of our goals was the Big 12 title, and we are disappointed that it didn't happen".  But that shouldn't be your ONLY goal.  

 

steve sharik

November 17th, 2021 at 2:20 PM ^

This thread is a giant pile of recent results begetting the "I told you so" phenomenon. Last year, Campbell exceeded expectations and Harbaugh fell far short of them. Campbell crowd: "Told you so." This year, Campbell is falling far short of (in my opinion, unrealistic) expectations while Harbaugh is greatly exceeding them. Harbaugh crowd: "Told you so."

shoes

November 17th, 2021 at 3:30 PM ^

Iowa State pre-season

5. Iowa State (9-3 in 2020, No. 9 in final AP Poll)

Just how excited are the Cyclones for 2021? Well, the 2020 season saw a top-10 finish, a Fiesta Bowl win and a unanimous All-American in RB Breece Hall.

Throw in Hall, QB Brock Purdy, TE Charlie Kolar and coach Matt Campbell all returning, and you're looking at what perhaps the most hyped season in program history. We'll know early on if Iowa State can live up to the expectations — rival Iowa is scheduled for Sept. 11.

blueheron

November 17th, 2021 at 3:49 PM ^

OT: With all respect to Michigander Eminem, I'd vote for retiring "Stan." It's an example of bad language overloading. It already means something (dudes named Stanley).

For similar reasons I've always found "hella" annoying. (You might say I've found it hella annoying.) It sounds too much like "hell of" and often fits poorly into sentences.