Wolverman

April 26th, 2012 at 1:33 PM ^

 I like in the comments after They start talking about the 2012-13 OL class at U of M vs. the D line class at Ohio. Those are going to be epic battles for both teams but, the thing people aren't noticing is Michigans D line and LB's vs. (sofar) 2 weak O line classes for Ohio

ChiBlueBoy

April 26th, 2012 at 1:36 PM ^

I didn't find the comments "generic," though they emphasize the same things that are always emphasized: leverage/pad level; extension; footwork. It all comes down to fundamentals.

I'm not so sure I buy the analysis, however. Clearly, he hasn't been talking enough with Magnus. /s (But I kid because I care.)

 

mejunglechop

April 26th, 2012 at 2:06 PM ^

Yeah i thought he got pretty specific technically and even when he discussed commonly cited points like pad level he used different and more specific language than you typically find. For a n00b like me who has basically no idea what good technique looks like it was actually enlightening. He didn't really address their frames which i think is important as an evaluator. It read more like a coach's summary than a talent evaluation in that respect. Nice to see he's chilled on the Hoke hate too. I bet he got pointed at and melted.

Magnus

April 26th, 2012 at 2:10 PM ^

Interestingly, Turley names three areas where Tuley-Tillman could improve (extension, footwork, pad level), and a maximum of two for the other guys.  It seems Turley also interprets that Tuley-Tillman has a significant ways to go in his development...

Wolverman

April 26th, 2012 at 2:33 PM ^

 I don't think anyone thought LTT was gonna be all big ten as a freshman. The thing people don't like about your evaluations is you can take a 5 star recruit and write one sentence about their positives and then write 2 paragraphs about how terrible their technique is.

 Turley said he needs to improve and i'm sure every high school junior or senior does but, he wasn't a dick about it :D.

Magnus

April 26th, 2012 at 2:42 PM ^

Fair enough, but Turley's a former All-Pro lineman who tends to agree that Tuley-Tillman has a lot to work on but has a great deal of upside.  You can critique the way I say things all you want, but my criticisms of his play/technique were warranted if you think Turley's assessment is accurate.  That's all I'm saying.

Wolverman

April 26th, 2012 at 2:50 PM ^

 I read your evaluations and I agree he has a lot of work to do. The kids not even a senior in high school yet is all i'm saying. I'm more worried about how the kids leave Michigan, than what their skill level is a year before they graduate high school.

 

 It's all in the delivery Mr. Magnus. Even the guys who disagree with you on here respect your opinion

 

 

HopeInHoke

April 26th, 2012 at 1:44 PM ^

I love seeing good OL classes.  Not only will they be solid O-Linemen, they will allow for QB and RB recruits to meet their full potential.  Think about how many RB and QB recruits don't pan out because they don't have the protection they need to develop and be protected... shouldn't be an issue for our upcoming teams!

SamirCM

April 26th, 2012 at 2:01 PM ^

Mean that good QBs and RBs will come, wanting to be protected by them. Good QBs lead to good WRs to come to play for them. Good QBs and good RBs lead to good OL continuing to come. Good offenses that put up points leads to wins, good defenders want to play for a winner, so they come. So in all, a good offensive line can be a start to good things.

CasBMW

April 26th, 2012 at 1:47 PM ^

Playing center?? I like the idea.  See him out-weighing Molk eventually. Has the height. And a mean road grader.  Just blown away with the OL Hoke is bringing in.  Of the OL we have now compared to last years, which class is considered...better??

Everyone Murders

April 26th, 2012 at 2:02 PM ^

Kyle Turley?  YMRMFSCA (you may remember me from such comments as):

After Hoke left SDSU for Michigan in January, Turley lashed out at Hoke in radio interviews. He talked about sending Hoke text messages that said, “(Expletive) you” and “(Expletive) Michigan.” He hasn’t changed his mind. Earlier this week, he said by phone that he believed in “karma” and that a loss to SDSU on Saturday could lead Hoke down a road that ends with him being fired from his dream job at Michigan. “I don’t care if it’s your dream job,” said Turley, who played in the NFL from 1998 to 2007. “If you’re worth your salt as a head coach, eventually you’ll get that same job. You don’t have to screw people over to get it.”

Source: http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2011/sep/20/some-sdsu-fans-say-jokes-hoke/ .

He was not a happy camper when Hoke left SDSU.  Good to see he's calmed down a bit!

SamirCM

April 26th, 2012 at 2:13 PM ^

don't see how he screwed SDSU over. It wasn't like he took all the files from potential players and ducked town in the middle of the night, instead he got offered his dream job and everyone knew it was going. It sure sucks when it happens, but he didn't appear to play games with the process. Coaches are given a bad rap when they leave a job for a promotion, but there are really few ways for an employed coach to switch schools, this is one of the better ones. It sure is better than leaving the Falcons in the middle of the week and faxing a letter to the players (the day after you flat out lied to the Falcons owner).