Drive Chart: O'Korn vs. Peters
This is mostly a duh, but I wanted to post the drives for O'Korn and Peters in the Rutgers game.
O'Korn:
- 7 plays, 27 yards, punt
- 3 plays, 11 yards, INT
- 13 plays, 80 yards, TD
- 3 plays, 1 yard, punt
Peters:
- 8 plays, 77 yards, TD
- 7 plays, 49 yards, TD
- 4 plays, 54 yards, TD
- 11 plays, 47 yards, missed FG
- 2 plays, 61 yards, TD
- 11 plays, 52 yards, downs
- 3 plays, 7 yards, punt
Rutgers caveats, obviously, but that is a huge difference. Only drive Peters had were we didn't get a first down was the garbage time drive at the end. Every other drive besides that led us into a spot where we should get points.
Peters' final stat line also reminds me of the stats Speight was putting up last year when we were bludegeoning teams. Enough to keep the defense honest and let the run game go wild. Considering our improved run blocking, all our QB needs to do is keep the safeties from sprinting downhill at the snap.
I'm really having a hard time not getting excited about his performance. It was exactly what we needed.
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Can we also acknowledge that it would be pretty difficult to be any worse in the next few games than O'Korn has been since Purdue? Here are his stats: 45 for 89 (50%) with 0 TD, 4 INTs, 4.9 yards/attempt. Plus the fumbles and sacks that are on him. He might struggle but he's unlikely to play much worse than O'Korn has.
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October 29th, 2017 at 1:11 PM ^
"I never said Peters was the best option forever." Who said you did, and what would that even mean?
"I also never said he was a superstar." Again, why is this relevant to how this debate has unfolded? (though you did refer to him as "super man")
"... or even the best option going into Michigan State." Well, here's what you did say that kicked off this exchange:
"All I can really ask is why it took so long for Harbaugh to see that. I don't think Peters just turned to super man over the past week. If he was played earlier we might've only had one loss and have a chance for the B1G. I'm starting to not believe this best player plays shit that Harbaugh insist he does."
So, you're angry because you think Harbaugh sabotaged our chances against Penn State by not playing Peters on the road in Happy Valley?
October 29th, 2017 at 12:27 PM ^
Just before Peters handed the ball to Higdon for his long TD run, Peters yelled, KILL, KILL, KILL.
October 29th, 2017 at 12:28 PM ^
and believe that gives them some sort of squatter's legitmacy. Yeah, there are three or four of you here who do nothing but sit back in the mama's basements throwing darts.
Get a life!
October 29th, 2017 at 1:19 PM ^
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that having spent half their lives here attaining very lofty pint levels somehow gives them squatter's superiority.
Those dudes are real douchnozzles, aren't they?
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I went Columbia High School as well. Go Dingbats! Were you that kid that kept falling down the stairs?
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October 29th, 2017 at 4:52 PM ^
and it's obvious logic isn't your strong suit.
October 29th, 2017 at 12:05 PM ^
You make it out like Peters has been exactly the same since the start of the season, when that's not the case at all.There's a lot to playing QB, especially in a Harbaugh offense that is more complex than the average college offense, and the staff didn't feel he was ready until now. Example: Peters was lacking in his communication and command, which by his own and Harbaugh's admittance, has gotten a lot better since fall camp. I still think the playbook is going to be limited, but if the other position groups can keep improving it should be enough to be in every game this season from here on out.
October 29th, 2017 at 12:11 PM ^
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I don't necessarily disagree, but young, talented players can rapidly improve in a short amount of time in the right circumstances. Peters said he's been preparing to be the starter since WS went down, that could've given him the kick in the rear he needed to start putting some things together.
October 29th, 2017 at 12:27 PM ^
But he also showed that not fully knowing the playbook is way less important than actually being able to make decisive reads and throw an accurate ball.
It just seems like it was a miscalculation by the staff. Shit happens.
October 29th, 2017 at 12:30 PM ^
The O-Line hasn't been playing well. Maybe the coaching staff didn't want to put a RS Fr out there against MSU, IU and PSU and get killed.
October 29th, 2017 at 12:46 PM ^
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That's true if you're considering Peters vs. JOK in an isolated drill-type scenario. But as others have mentioned, there are additional moving parts that may have contributed to Peters finally becoming "the guy" or at least getting a chance to prove during Rutgers that he should at least get a shot at starting. Namely:
- Peters probably did have some element or incremental improvement during the past 3 or 4 weeks. If he did start to mentally "check out" once he was burried at #3 on the depth chart, maybe her perked up and also got some more quality snaps during practice when it became clear he was the #2 and that JOK was wobbly at best.
- MSU night rivaly game/monsoon and PSU white out aren't great games in which to cut your teeth. This home vs. Rutgers/home vs. Minnesota/away vs. Maryland was the softest 3 game schedule possible for breaking in a new guy.
- The offensive running game has been improving over the past few weeks. In addition to throwing in a young QB, you want to make sure he's got at least SOMETHING to lean on a bit. That was basically nothing 3-4 weeks ago, whereas now there's at least there's something.
Bottom line is it's possible that the above 3 factors all started vectoring together to put the decision to play Peters in the "yes" column maybe even as long as 2-3 wees ago. Based on the Harbaugh presser, it sounds like maybe sometime after Indiana, the coaching staff decided that Peters would play, but they'd ride w/ JOK at PSU simply becasue they didn't want to put the young guy in the meat grinder for his very first start.
October 29th, 2017 at 12:31 PM ^
For fuck's sake.
First, Peters was hardly "Superman", so your premise is flawed.
When exactly before yesterday's game was this change supposed to happen? Before Purdue? I don't know, JOK looked pretty good at Purdue.
MSU in the monsoon?
Indiana with the whitehout the following week?
At PSU?
It's one thing to whine and complain, but another to suggest a better alternative.
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October 29th, 2017 at 2:29 PM ^
and how do you know we could have gone there faster? Serves none, absolutely not one fucking purpose for James Harbaugh to hold this kid out of the lineup if he's better equipped to be our starter than the incumbent. Better equipped includes the tangibles as well as the obvious physical attributes. On the other hand, it would serve Harbaugh and staff a world of good if he had a 'known" commodity on the sidelines that he could insert whenever he even feared the danger of a loss. It's a weird proposal you lay in front of me, that the recognized elite coaches" opt to play lesser players because that is what all great coaches do.
i just don't fucking get it. Every coach in America, at every level, is going to play the person he feels will give his team the best chance to win. Reason is simple. We all like to win, winning is the reason we get involved in sports and winning is more fun than shaking hands as the losing coach. I've done both and it's not even fucking close.
October 29th, 2017 at 1:35 PM ^
In postgame interview, Peters said he began practicing differently--as if he were the starter--after Speight went down with injury. So, after the Purdue game. It's not too much of a stretch to think that a few weeks of improved practice would start to show results about now.
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Nose of the ball was up on a lot of his throws, the deep one you're referencing being probably the most visibly awkward.
Even on his third down pass to Gentry where he was able to step into it, the nose was up. Aain, a minor issue that's fun to be talking about in light of everything else that happened yesterday.
Not sure to what extent wind played a factor.