[Devin, Don't Read This] Gardner listed as #16 overall NFL Draft prospect according to SI

Submitted by a2_electricboogaloo on

SI has updated its NFL Draft board today, and Devin moved up to the #16 overall prospect for the 2014 draft.  The positive is due to the very strong QB class (he's the fifth overall QB) it might be in his best interest to wait for a year.

Other notables:

  • Taylor is #3 overall, and #1 overall OT (as expected).
  • Jadaveon Clowney is the #1 overall
  • Notre Dame has 2 D-lineman in the top 10 (Nix and Tuitt), which has to make us feel a bit better about out O-line's struggles last week.
  • Devin is ahead of Braxton Miller (#18). Go Blue.

GoBlueGB

September 11th, 2013 at 9:08 PM ^

As much as I hate to say this, Devin would be smart to leave after this year so he can ride the obsession of the dual threat QB in the NFL.  After Colin, Wilson, RG3, and Cam start to flop like they already are, this obsession should go away.

a2_electricboogaloo

September 11th, 2013 at 9:15 PM ^

Definitely disagree, all of those except RGIII had pretty good first weeks.  Of the three, none of them threw interceptions, all had a QB rating above 97, and Kaepernick threw for 412 yards.  Plus Vick had a great game too.  RGIII wans't good, but he wasn't awful, and he's also just coming back from a major injury.

a2_electricboogaloo

September 12th, 2013 at 10:01 AM ^

I was implying that if passing is equal, than a QB who can run is always an advantage over a QB who cannot.  No one is equal to Peyton Manning's passing. (I'm so sorry Tom, please forgive me).

That being said, if I have a choice between Peyton Manning, and Peyton Manning with the running ability of Devin or Colin Kaepernick, I'll take the latter any day of the week.

Michigan4Life

September 11th, 2013 at 9:36 PM ^

he's a pocket passer who can run.  I think people pigeon hole him as a dual threat QB because he's black, whether if it's fair or not.

Look at Andrew Luck, he's white but people think of him as a pocket passer but he can run.  His raw combine numbers is very comparable to Cam Newton who is a dual threat QB.  The difference is he's white and Cam is black.

This is why you need to look at QB by their plays on the field instead of automatically assuming based on looks.

sum1valiant

September 11th, 2013 at 9:25 PM ^

As much as I hate to say it, Pryor can also be added to the list of successful week one dual-threat qb's.  Think he through for around 220 and added another 120 on the ground, all against a pretty good Colts D.  I don't think this is a fad, I think the NFL is finally figuring out what NCAA coaches realized years ago.  

sum1valiant

September 12th, 2013 at 6:54 AM ^

The OP was insinuating that NFL D's were figuring out dual threats (particularly because they've now had an entire offseason to gameplan against them).  The only data we have for counterpoint right now is week one.  The fact that 25% of the league started a dual threat QB last week (and there may be more, i'm going strictly off memory) is a strong argument that the trend is growing, not declining.  Furthermore, all of these QB's had ok to good week one's (Pryor, Kaepernick, Geno Smith, RGIII, Russell Wilson, Vick, EJ Manuel, Cam).  

taistreetsmyhero

September 11th, 2013 at 9:18 PM ^

as long as the QB is actually good at both running and passing. Kap has a rocket for an arm, and that 49er gameplan had an answer for the loaded box before they even saw it. He had the offense firing on all cylinders.

It's unfair to call RG3 a flop after 1 bad game when he clearly wasn't 100%. And Wilson gets a pass because, again, small sample size.

As for Cam, it seems like the offensive gameplan isn't there. Maybe Gorgeous Borges can do some consulting on the side...let 'em know how to use the pass to set up the run.

NOLA Wolverine

September 12th, 2013 at 9:22 AM ^

Between those two options, yes. 

Devin's best attribute is his mobility so far. This list needs a third option and that's "pocket mobility" (or whatever you want to call it). He moves the pocket to get not only himself an open passing lane, but time for his WR's to seperate. Without it this offense is entirely different, and really probably not all that productive. He may be a fine pocket passer, but his ability to move is what makes him good. 

taistreetsmyhero

September 11th, 2013 at 9:10 PM ^

I think he would greatly benefit from an extra year in charge of the offense. Between developing his ability to read defenses and honing in his decision-making (i.e. don't always turn your back to blitzing defenders--that would be akin to the death sentence in NFL), I think he should keep demonstrating his cannon arm to the pro's and work on his finer qb'ing skills. His future is very bright.

evenyoubrutus

September 12th, 2013 at 9:19 AM ^

I totally agree. There is such a strong correlation between quarterbacks playing out their eligibility in college and going on to have long successful careers. He obviously is a good leader already but he could learn so much if he came back for his senior season. Plus, he will technically only have about one and a half seasons under his belt at that point.

Michigan4Life

September 11th, 2013 at 9:42 PM ^

the consensus seems to be Teddy Bridgewater has the best shot of unseating Clowney for the #1 overall pick because he's a franchise QB material. 

This year QB class looks to be LOADED with quality QB prospects like Teddy Bridgewater, Tajh Boyd, Marcus Mariota, Brent Hundley, Stephen Morris, etc. IMO, Teddy, Boyd, Mariota and maybe Hundley are 1st round material. I don't see Devin being ranked ahead of them (maybe Hundley since he's a RS soph) especially they're all more polished passer than Devin and can run.

turtleboy

September 11th, 2013 at 10:41 PM ^

I think Devin had a much higher ceiling than those guys, he's just more of an unknown at this point. I don't think he'll go, though. I honestly think he'll stay and finish his grad degree before leaving for the nfl, especially if he feels we have a shot at winning a natty of he does.