CWS: Auburn gets burned
What a horrible way to lose a game. Auburn was up 4-1 in the bottom of the 9th when an error and a couple of poorly fielded balls let Miss. St take the lead and win, 5-4. I don't know if you can come back from that.
That 3rd basemen has to be sick. He just had to take 2 steps up and tag the runner.
As bad as that moment was, errors are not uncommon in college baseball. I felt terrible for the 3B. But I really thought ESPN did a very distasteful job of focusing in on the poor kid after the play for what seemed like a mean amount of time. A dick move in my opinion.
He’s not a “kid”.
Golly gee the big mean world is going to eat him alive and ESPN is at fault.
I think is he's playing baseball without pay, we can reasonably still call him a kid.
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Honest question: isn't the value of one year out of state tuition higher than the amount peeps get paid in A/AA ball?
That's a "realist" take for a guy who thinks bigfoot is real.
No big deal (except, perhaps, at Auburn). For a few hours he'll be used to sell advertising ("5-hour Energy!"), then he'll fade into obscurity.
I really thought ESPN did a very distasteful job of focusing in on the poor kid after the play for what seemed like a mean amount of time. A dick move in my opinion.
Eh, dudes getting a full ride to college, was drafted in the 18th round, and is only a sophomore. It sucks he made a mistake on a big stage, but he's got a lot going for him and will have many more opportunities. It's all in your perspective.
I don't think he is getting a full ride, but I agree with you. Most of the baseball players get money and assistance, but very few get full rides. they get about 10 - 11 per team, and they usually split them up to help as many kids as possible.
Not all baseball players get a full ride. The elite get a full ride but the rest are either walk ons or get partial scholarships. His parents are likely still paying college tuition. It isn't football or basketball.
I went through the recruiting process with my son and full rides are non existent. The best we had D1 was 67% of tuition only and it still left around 10k a year out of pocket. Juco came along and offered a full ride so it was a no brainer. My sons a pitcher, big kid, 6 3, 210 so the plan was to hone his pitching and then hopefully get a Better d1 offer or god willing make the draft. All that took a turn while he was playing fall ball his first year, setting 90-92 and his fingers went numb and the next pitch his elbow popped. We went to Cincinnati for his surgery in September and he’s well into the throwing part of rehab and coming along nicely.
This is correct; full rides don't exist in baseball. You get 11.7 scholarships for around 35 players on your team. When I played, you had guys anywhere from 2/3rds scholarship to books. I was one of the lucky ones in that my tuition was fully covered, but I still had to pay for all other expenses. Baseball is also one of those sports where you have about a month off during the year. From fall ball through the end of the season, to summer ball that is usually in another state.
Yep. My son is attending Lincoln trail which thanks to Jordan Brewer the baseball world is familiar with. Even recovering from TJ surgery the kid had no time for anything other than baseball, rehab and studies. I know baseball isn’t a big revenue sport but these young men work their asses off and the juco world is huge in the sport. I attended a few games and there’s some incredible talent at that level.
Plenty of JUCO players got drafted into the MLB. Depending on which JUCO league they play in, but the best are the ones who are likely D1 and MLB bound.
ESPN did a dick move on a professional game the other night.
They were looking at the scoreboard and the runs per inning looked like a phone number from Colorado (3-0-3- etc.). They followed the score through the 7th and 8th innings, laughing as the talked about someone will be getting a lot of calls. Only after the phone number was complete - and they showed it again - did the say "oh, we didn't mean for you to dial this number..."
Or it is the pulp fiction bondage/torture room where he'll find out what type of punishment he'll get for his throwing error.
Wow. And to think this is the same team that did this:
Not sure if we’ve seen anything quite like this LSU-Auburn finish ? pic.twitter.com/JwnfWK1W20
— SEC Network (@SECNetwork) May 23, 2019
Then again, they came back from THAT to beat LSU in the elimination game, so there's a chance.
<insert obligatory Jim Carrey Dumb & Dumber gif here>
And here I thought this was about basketball sanctions...
Whens the last time you saw a 3rd baseman take 4 steps,then throw to 1st? I think all he had to do was touch the bag or the runner....
At first I thought it should have been considered possible baserunner interference. The runner must give room to the fielder. The quadruple pump by the 3B was possibly to accommodate the runner. Another ESPN fuckup in my opinion to not really even mention it.
The runner does not have to give any room to a fielder if he is running within the baseline.
Agree, that was not close to baserunner interference. There was no contact with the fielder or the ball, he didn't intentionally try to get in the fielder's way to obstruct the throw. He was on a beeline from 2nd to 3rd. Clean running.
7.08—Any runner is out when –
(b) intentionally interferes with a thrown ball; or hinders a fielder attempting to make a play on a batted ball. (NOTE: A runner who is adjudged to have hindered a fielder who is attempting to make a play on a batted ball is out whether it was intentional or not.)
Whens the last time you saw a 3rd baseman take 4 steps,then throw to 1st?
Last night...
Judging from Auburns LSU game and Miss St game its safe to say they are defensive chokers in the big moment
The 3rd basemen was making fielding mistakes more often than not all game long tonight
The 3B did have a dinger and 3 RBI. So there's that. The 3B giveth and the 3B taketh away.
There was no force at third so touching the bag was not an option.
Not-So-Hot-Corner-Nightmare...
Yes, and in my uninformed opinion is why trying to tag it a runner who isn’t forced to advance is probably a bad idea.
It’s a routine grounder, and he’s thrown out hundreds, if not thousands, of people at first in his life on that type of hit—I think that’s the obvious play. Even considering tagging the runner means looking away from the play he should make, finding the runner and judging if he is far enough from a base to be tagged or caught in a pickle, or if he hasn’t run in which case no out is possible. If the runner is too close to the base, the time this has taken would have made it too late to throw to first, and there’s probably at least even odds the runner stays put, like in the nearly identical previous grounder.
Clearly he may have needed to reconsider once he has the unfortunate timing of a runner crossing his path and needs to pause before the throw, but even then I’m not sure tagging is a good choice. There’s nobody covering third, so there’s a pretty good chance he ends up just chasing a runner to third and not tagging him out. Obviously the rushed throw that went wild is a huge problem, but I’m not sure any decision before that is really a bad one.
Also doesn't help that Auburn plays a relatively short first basemen. Typically, you have a tall lefty there. While he made a few nice plays last night, his height potentially cost them on a couple of plays.
Area for improvement: Grow.
It seems to me Michigan just came back from a gaffe in the field and an epic collapse in the ninth at the super regionals at UCLA and the regionals with Creighton, so it is possible.
Just where would the third basement be?
Just below the second basement.
Best comment I’ve read on here in a while.
It’s very possible, we have, many times. Dropped fly ball with 2 outs in the 9th vs UCLA, the disaster from our bullpen vs Creighton as well.
Auburn seemed extremely tight in the 9th. It’s cliche as hell, but they had a three run lead and were playing not to lose.
I’m in the minority, but it felt like those extra hops were a result of the 3rd baseman trying too hard not to mess up.
Sucks to be them.
Man, that's two epic collapses Auburn has had in the baseball tourney, so far! Loser's bracket for them, now!! Which is a hard way to win anything - they have to go undefeated the rest of the way!
Let's stay out of the loser side of things, shall we?
It's as bad a burn down as Tara!
You mean it was gone with the wind?
Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn
Can't come back from that? M did, up 7-4, lost our minds in the 9th and lost to Creighton 11-7. Came back the next day and crushed them. Dependent on the team's mentality.
That's gonna sting
Was it much different than the focus put on our outfielder in game 2 of the UCLA series?
I feel bad for the kid, but it couldn't happen to a more deserving school.
Go Blue Baseball!