Coaching salaries and what it might take

Submitted by caup on

The top 10 salaries in american football for 2014 are:

 

Sean Payton - $8.0M

Bill Belichick - $7.5M

Andy Reid - $7.5M

Pete Carroll - $7.0M

John Harbaugh - $7.0M

Jeff Fisher - $7.0M

Nick Saban - $6.9M (or higher)

Tom Coughlin - $6.8M

Mike Tomlin - $6.0M

Mike McCarthy- $6.0M

(next highest is $5.25M)

Speaking hypothetically of course, would Michigan be bold enough to offer a slam dunk candidate a 15-year contract with a starting salary of $7.0M that escalates at a 5% rate?  Who the hell would be able to counter such an offer?  The NFL never hands out long terms like that.  Too much uncertainty and parity. 

College football is different, where long-term success is more attainable and assured.

Of course, I can only think of one guy who would be worth such an offer. 

 

Discuss.

 

 

 

superstringer

November 14th, 2014 at 7:35 PM ^

Miss State's got three very big problems that Florida doesn't:  Alabama, Auburn, LSU.

Mullen has a team with a lot of senior talent, next year's team will be starting over in a lot of places.  New QB for sure.  His division will continue to be ach-ee-double-hockey-sticks into the future.  This is his one shot to cash in, he's not going to duplicate this season anytime soon.  Florida is just too obvious a result here.

AmishRule

November 14th, 2014 at 8:51 PM ^

Plus my guess is there is a HUGE difference in Mississippi State's athletic budget and Michigan's. I heard a few weeks ago if we paid the same % of our $143 million budget for our head coach as other elite coaches get paid in smaller budget programs - a $10 million salary is comparable. Not saying we do it, but this shows the monster size of our athletic operation.

mGrowOld

November 14th, 2014 at 6:25 PM ^

One thing's for certain.  Spending other people's money for them is fun!  How much do you guys want to spend on assistant's & the other locker/weight room and office renovations Joe New Guy Coach will surely need to have done?

MadMonkey

November 14th, 2014 at 6:25 PM ^

to turn into a coach?

Hopefully, the guys in the lab have figured out how to accelerate the maturation of the clone to circa 1969.  Then we can have Space Coyote, Magnus, and Ron Utah bring him up to speed on the changes in football since the 10 Year War.

ST3

November 14th, 2014 at 6:34 PM ^

These are from 2013: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/salaries/

Meyer was the highest paid Big 10 coach at $4.6M+. Hoke was next at $4.1M+. Jerry Kill was last at $1.2M. Hoke and Kill had roughly the same background when they were hired. The difference is, one's athletic director at the time of hiring was and is certifiably insane and the other's isn't.

 

not TOM BRADY

November 14th, 2014 at 6:52 PM ^

If jim wants to be here. They will pay him accordingly. If it comes to a bidding war that's a clear sign Harbaugh is just trying to leverage a NFL owner to give him more money.

Come On Down

November 14th, 2014 at 7:41 PM ^

It's not realistic to think that any college is going to win a bidding war with an NFL team. The top coaches in college could probably all make more money in the NFL, they coach in college because they want to. If Jim, John, or anybody else wants to be a college coach they and their agents are both smart enough to know it will mean taking a bit of a paycut.

If the goal is making the most money possible, the NFL will always win.

uminks

November 14th, 2014 at 7:04 PM ^

I could see a 5 year contract with additional incentives for B1G championships, making the playoffs and  winning the national championship game. It would be a good investment! If the university hires a cheap, no name, and poor coach the program will be damaged and the magnitude in losses will be much greater than Harbuagh's salary.

JBE

November 14th, 2014 at 7:08 PM ^

Why would any university pay 6-7 million for a coach? That's just ridiculous, no matter how many National Championships they win.

superstringer

November 14th, 2014 at 7:29 PM ^

There is this rampant theme in many posts on mgoblog that UM has massive piles of disposable cash and can throw mega-millions at a new coach.  $7M a year?  Why not!  We want to win!

Ok, look, this isn't Alabama or FSU or the NFL.  Winning is not "at all costs."  Winning is not the primary goal of the athletic department at UM.  If this comes as a shock to you, check yourself, you might need to find a new team to root for, I think you've missed the point of UM athletics.

While UM has a huge budget, it also has huge costs.  All of the facilities investments going on; numerous sports; stipends on the way; buyouts for DB and, soon, Hoke.  $7M is a freaking big piece of the overall pie.  And does UM want to be paying $7M a year for a football coach?  I don't think so.

I'm not making an economic proposition.  Jim Calhoun can provide you those details.  I'm sure that $7M for a coach is "worth it," if the coach wins a lot and suddenly donations to the school skyrocket, and the added exposure of the team (from success) brings in lots more licensing revenue.  Is Saban "worth" the money, in terms of return-on-investment?  Perhaps, and even, probably.  But I don't think it's about return on te $7M.  There is a clear signal here -- you're a public academic institution, an elite one, do you pay $7M for a football coach?  No.  The primary mission is academics, and winning many football games hasn't made FSU, Alabama, Boise State, or MSU(YTMSU) a better school.  In fact, there is a price of prostituting out your soul -- ask PSU and UNC and Miami(YTM) fans all about that.

cozy200

November 15th, 2014 at 6:19 PM ^

It's simply unrealistic to think this way. You need to take advantage of the money flowing into college athletics right now. To do so would be border line negligent. Why? Because that money supports everything.

If you want to expand opportunity to more students, you do that with money. A lot of it. And believe it, with wins comes money. Period. There is no question Saban returns 2x on their investment in him.

CriticalFan

November 14th, 2014 at 8:07 PM ^

Harbaugh is the right guy and we won't need to buy him out.

Or he isn't, and so we don't offer him what it would take.

We just have to figure out which first, which our AD didn't do each of the last two times.

Black Socks

November 14th, 2014 at 10:24 PM ^

The fact that people can quibble about an extra $1M a year for Harbaugh is incredible.  Do you want another crappy 6-6 year?  The stadium will be empty.  As a Michigan grad I cannot accept that.  Hire Jimmy.

alum96

November 14th, 2014 at 10:33 PM ^

Hi.

It is going to be a 5 or 6 year deal at $6M per - Jim has yet to decide which one he would prefer and will accept on January 3rd.

Source: the future

 

ifis

November 14th, 2014 at 10:42 PM ^

of anyone who performs a similar job.  It's not about the extra money, per se.  It about being paid the most because you are the best.

Amaizing Blue

November 14th, 2014 at 10:46 PM ^

Assume the numbers are all that matters, put aside moral debates about football coach vs. Professor pay, how much does Meyer make, etc. Does it make financial sense to pay Jim Harbaugh 10 million per year for ten years to come coach Michigan starting next season? He is a proven GREAT football coach. Value added, he has the Michigan connections. Donors and box holders will be excited and give/renew, as well as season ticket holders. I bet we could get half his salary underwritten by those donors. They will make that money back many times over when we return to glory. My answer is yes, it makes all kinds of sense.

caup

November 14th, 2014 at 11:25 PM ^

It's a business decision. We live in a free market economy. Compensation will follow the amount of revenue generated by the industry. p.s. Do you have any idea what Taylor Swift or Bradley Cooper make a year? Yes, it's all ridiculous. But let's stop comparing any of these situations to our own lives.

uminks

November 15th, 2014 at 12:35 AM ^

This is not the 60s or 70s where you will find a coach at Bo's level to coach your team for less than a half a million per year. Hoke makes 4.4 M. I think someone with Harbaugh's talent would demand 2 to 3 million dollars per year. I was surprised when I read Hoke's contract 3 years ago that he was the 5th highest paid coach in the country at the time. Now he is number 8 but still quite high on the list.

I just worry Michigan is going to take the cheap route and hire a non big name coach or an assistant. It could work out if Stoops from UK is hired but it is a risk that may not turn out well after waiting for another 3 to 4 years of rebuilding. By that time your football program will slip and may never return to a top program. All other sports in the athletic department will feel the impact when only half the big house is filled on football Saturdays.

UMgradMSUdad

November 15th, 2014 at 1:11 AM ^

There should never be a college coaching contract of 15 or even 10 years.  Oklahoma State University signed their basketball coach, Travis Ford, to a 10 year contract, and even the AD who set up the contract acknowledges it was a mistake. The perception it created has pissed off fans as well as their head football coach.  It was after that contract (and nothing near that long offered to Mike Gundy) that there started rumors that Gundy was unhappy and might look elsewhere for a more lucrative contract.  He had a point.  Why offer a 10 year contract to the new coach but not to the guy who was a graduate of and coaching at the same school for several years?  

caup

November 15th, 2014 at 2:04 AM ^

My point is that a great and proven football coach has WAY more authority and control over his roster in college, thereby making it easier to be successful, so handing out a long term contract to a proven winner isn't nearly as risky as it is in the pros. In fact, offering a significantly longer term would be the one thing a college could do to compete with the higher yearly salaries seen in the NFL.

If the typical NFL offer is for 4-5 years that means if M wants to seriously lure a successful NFL coach to Ann Arbor they are going to have to dangle something like 8 years and $50M in front of the guy.

And another thing: handing out 8-10 year contracts for superstars is commonplace in the NHL and MLB (I can think of a few guys on the Tigers and Red Wings right off the top of my head) so why is it so crazy to offer a proven coaching superstar an 8-10 year contract?  That's even LESS risky than a 8-10 year player contract because physical deterioration or injury isn't a factor with a great coach.

Badkitty

November 15th, 2014 at 3:31 AM ^

All I know is that a bunch of elite (and probably not-so-elite) college football coaches are going to kiss Brady Hoke and Dave Brandon for their incompetence and cronyism and name their 2nd and 3rd vacation homes after them this coming January.  They just have to say to their AD or fanbase that , "Gee, Michigan is looking for a new coach.. Ann Arbor is nice, they have a big stadium, lots of media exposure, so much tradition, and wow, what a profitable athletic department...." and the contract extensions and the raises will start flying at them.  

GoBlueSimon

November 15th, 2014 at 9:01 AM ^

15 years is too big a committment.  Let's start at 5 and go from there.  I don't care if the figure is high, but don't give a guy 15 years.  Standard operating procedure.  5 years, $25-30 million should work just fine for whoever they offer.

Mgodiscgolfer

November 15th, 2014 at 12:47 PM ^

what did Bo need in pay to coach here, a hundred grand a year? Him and his coaching tree lasted about 35 years. UM has got away with under paying coaches for a long time and now I guess it's to ante up.